Indiana Jones Renovation (2020)

Is this refurb happening or what?

FWIW, pre-announcement of closure an Indy CM overheard my friend talking the refurb and the CM said that it was due for a 4 month refurb, but was only going to go down for 1 month now. I think this has been talked about on the internet as well (the change from 4 months to 1). That would also imply it wouldn't get any plussing either. However even 1 month I feel would be long enough to get a lot done, with proper maintenance staffing.

Now in a post-closure world, I really hope it gets the full treatment it deserves! Fixed lava pit with fog, all the down effects, plussing in the way of fixing up the pitch-black room with some projections and whatever other cool ideas they have, updating the lighting in the Boulder scene (it's so dark in there these days) and other needed scenes if necessary (anyone have ideas for other scenes that need lighting enhancements?).

Not even going to mention the moving door effect as that will probably never return... Oops 😅
 

cmwade77

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Do you think they will start this refurbishment early now that the park will be closed for months?
A little over two weeks does not equal the park closing for months and let's really all hope that Disney sticks to its guns and reopens on April 1 no matter what.

That might sound mean and cruel at first, but the amount of small mom and pop businesses that depend on all of these theme parks being open is incredible. Seriously, the So. Cal. economy won't be able to handle a sustained closure of all theme parks and if they all remain closed, we will see increased homelessness and far more rampant spread of disease than we can even imagine. And if Disney sticks to its guns, then the other theme parks will follow suit as well and we can minimize the long term impact. This will also give movie theaters, etc. ammunition to reopen at that time as well.

Now, don't get me wrong, if Disney reopens on April 1, I am sure it won't be business as usual nor should it be, there are things, for example Finding Nemo Subs (those are mobile petri dishes after all) that should be closed for a while and I am sure Disney is coming up with a far more detailed plan for this. They quite literally have a plan for a Zombie Apocalypse, so I fail to see how Disney didn't have a plan for a global pandemic like this that would have allowed them to stay open and still protect public health. Which means this closure has little to do with public health and much more to do with public perception.
 
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TROR

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A little over two weeks does not equal the park closing for months and let's really all hope that Disney sticks to its guns and reopens on April 1 no matter what.

That might sound mean and cruel at first, but the amount of small mom and pop businesses that depend on all of these theme parks being open is incredible. Seriously, the So. Cal. economy won't be able to handle a sustained closure of all theme parks and if they all remain closed, we will see increased homelessness and far more rampant spread of disease than we can even imagine. And if Disney sticks to its guns, then the other theme parks will follow suit as well and we can minimize the long term impact. This will also give movie theaters, etc. ammunition to reopen at that time as well.

Now, don't get me wrong, if Disney reopens on April 1, I am sure it won't be business as usual nor should it be, there are things, for example Finding Nemo Subs (those are mobile petri dishes after all) that should be closed for a while.
Could be the very end of the submarines at that point, then.
 

cmwade77

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Could be the very end of the submarines at that point, then.
You may be right on that one, although there are steps they could take to fix that, but they would be costly and involve some very custom equipment. I am not sure that it would be worth it given the massive amount of land it consumes.
 
A little over two weeks does not equal the park closing for months and let's really all hope that Disney sticks to its guns and reopens on April 1 no matter what.

That might sound mean and cruel at first, but the amount of small mom and pop businesses that depend on all of these theme parks being open is incredible. Seriously, the So. Cal. economy won't be able to handle a sustained closure of all theme parks and if they all remain closed, we will see increased homelessness and far more rampant spread of disease than we can even imagine. And if Disney sticks to its guns, then the other theme parks will follow suit as well and we can minimize the long term impact. This will also give movie theaters, etc. ammunition to reopen at that time as well.

Now, don't get me wrong, if Disney reopens on April 1, I am sure it won't be business as usual nor should it be, there are things, for example Finding Nemo Subs (those are mobile petri dishes after all) that should be closed for a while and I am sure Disney is coming up with a far more detailed plan for this. They quite literally have a plan for a Zombie Apocalypse, so I fail to see how Disney didn't have a plan for a global pandemic like this that would have allowed them to stay open and still protect public health. Which means this closure has little to do with public health and much more to do with public perception.

Wouldn't they be cycling it empty as has been reported for rides that need it? Or would they purposely leave it out so it can die? Seems odd to me.
 

Professortango1

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A little over two weeks does not equal the park closing for months and let's really all hope that Disney sticks to its guns and reopens on April 1 no matter what.

That might sound mean and cruel at first, but the amount of small mom and pop businesses that depend on all of these theme parks being open is incredible. Seriously, the So. Cal. economy won't be able to handle a sustained closure of all theme parks and if they all remain closed, we will see increased homelessness and far more rampant spread of disease than we can even imagine. And if Disney sticks to its guns, then the other theme parks will follow suit as well and we can minimize the long term impact. This will also give movie theaters, etc. ammunition to reopen at that time as well.

Now, don't get me wrong, if Disney reopens on April 1, I am sure it won't be business as usual nor should it be, there are things, for example Finding Nemo Subs (those are mobile petri dishes after all) that should be closed for a while and I am sure Disney is coming up with a far more detailed plan for this. They quite literally have a plan for a Zombie Apocalypse, so I fail to see how Disney didn't have a plan for a global pandemic like this that would have allowed them to stay open and still protect public health. Which means this closure has little to do with public health and much more to do with public perception.

There is no way the park is reopening April 1st. That was Disney buying themselves some time while they figured this thing out. This process takes about 8-10 weeks. We're looking at closures through April and most likely most of May as well.
 

NobodyElse

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A little over two weeks does not equal the park closing for months and let's really all hope that Disney sticks to its guns and reopens on April 1 no matter what.

Politely put, that seems wildly irresponsible.

They quite literally have a plan for a Zombie Apocalypse,...

I'm literally unsure that you know what some of those words mean.
 

cmwade77

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Wouldn't they be cycling it empty as has been reported for rides that need it? Or would they purposely leave it out so it can die? Seems odd to me.
What does this have to do with my comment in any way? Yes, I am sure Disney is cycling rides that need it, just as airlines are running empty planes, as planes are not designed to sit idle for more than a couple of hours at a time.

But my point was about what this is going to do to the economy, not the rides, if the closures continue beyond April 1, we will see a dramatic rise in homelessness, possibly 1/3 of all Americans will be homeless. You can't tell me that won't cause a far more rampant spread of disease and death than if we had simply let this run its natural course.
 

cmwade77

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Politely put, that seems wildly irresponsible.



I'm literally unsure that you know what some of those words mean.
Actually, the irresponsible thing is to continue the closures, as it is quite clear that closing all of the theme parks, along with everything else will result in 1/3 of all Americans being homeless within 6 months to a year, at most. This will bring about death and disease far faster and more rampant than if we had just let things run its course naturally.

I actually do know what those words mean and I know they do indeed have such a plan in place in their operations and procedures manuals.
 

cmwade77

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There is no way the park is reopening April 1st. That was Disney buying themselves some time while they figured this thing out. This process takes about 8-10 weeks. We're looking at closures through April and most likely most of May as well.
And that would be very irresponsible, see my other posts about how keeping things closed that long would result in mass homelessness, which would bring about even more disease and death than we can even begin to imagine. Seriously, can you even picture over 100 million homeless people in a single country? We are far different than many other countries, simply due to the vast amount of people and land we have.

The bottom line is there is plenty that can and should be done to help prevent the spread of this disease, but shutting everything down isn't going to do the trick.
 
What does this have to do with my comment in any way? Yes, I am sure Disney is cycling rides that need it, just as airlines are running empty planes, as planes are not designed to sit idle for more than a couple of hours at a time.

But my point was about what this is going to do to the economy, not the rides, if the closures continue beyond April 1, we will see a dramatic rise in homelessness, possibly 1/3 of all Americans will be homeless. You can't tell me that won't cause a far more rampant spread of disease and death than if we had simply let this run its natural course.
Apologies, I meant to quote TROR's post.

Could be the very end of the submarines at that point, then.
Wouldn't they be cycling it empty as has been reported for rides that need it? Or would they purposely leave it out so it can die? Seems odd to me.
 

Professortango1

Well-Known Member
And that would be very irresponsible, see my other posts about how keeping things closed that long would result in mass homelessness, which would bring about even more disease and death than we can even begin to imagine. Seriously, can you even picture over 100 million homeless people in a single country? We are far different than many other countries, simply due to the vast amount of people and land we have.

The bottom line is there is plenty that can and should be done to help prevent the spread of this disease, but shutting everything down isn't going to do the trick.

Shutting things down flattens the curve which means we have enough resources to treat the sick. Italy just announced they might have to stop treating patients over 80 and leaving them to die. We can survive without Disneyland for 2 months. That is the responsible action.
 

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