eliza61nyc
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It's 19 months away. Is Disney obligated to be transparent to the public every step of the way?
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Increased foot traffic at Epcot's International Gate...
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YankeeMouse
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Maybe there is a plan for additional tap-styles?
Kamikaze
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Texas84
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Did not see that post. Can you link it?
Dutch Inn '76
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"Transparency." Y'all act like The Mouse owes you information or something.
I've always been amazed at the UNDERUTILIZATION of the IG and Crescent Lake area. I'm thinking that the suits agree with me, and that the location of this stop is not a coincidence. They are trying to bring more people in the IG; to spread the masses out more evenly. I'm certain they will increase the number of turnstiles here. Of course, they are also adding value to these three resorts - and you know what comes with added value...
OneofThree
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Of the consumer, or producer sort? If you're suggesting it falls on the consumer side, please explain because I don't follow here.
Dutch Inn '76
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Consumer (then producer). AoA, Carib Beach & Pop Century all have cool new transportation directly to the front gate of two parks - not even the original monorail loop offer$ that.
OneofThree
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That's great. But what the OP's thread brings into question is the effect upon YC, BC, and BWI -three resorts for which the deluxe price Disney charges should continue to afford equally deluxe amenities.
nickys
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Hopefully this will work...
https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/new-gondola-transportation-disney-skyliner.924477/page-454
Dutch Inn '76
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How will the increase of folks though the IG or strolling the Boardwalk negatively impact their "Deluxe" experience? When I stayed at the Boardwalk, there wasn't enough foot traffic to keep the shops and sidewalk performers/vendors busy - so they would shut down if it wasn't "prime time." Perhaps this will bring in more customers to keep it busy more often.
I was merely stating that the increase of guests to the IG area is not a byproduct of something else, but probably part of the plan all along. It will relieve the congestion at the front gate, and it will provide more paying customers to the Boardwalk.
If they want me to book a vacation a year or more out, yes.
PeakSeason
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How long has it been since you've stayed there? This is completely different from the experiences I've had on ten, ten day trips over the past three years.
rreading
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Personally, I would like to see the gondolas continue on after the IG stop to have a further drop at the main entrance to Epcot. As nice as it is to show up at World Showcase, I miss entering the park under Spaceship Earth. Plus, on a night I’m staying on the monorail, I’d like to take the gondola express to the monorail rather than the 1/2 mike walk to the front of the park.
I suppose that it could make the IG problem worse though for all those going to Epcot from the monorail for dinner reservations.
I suppose that it could make the IG problem worse though for all those going to Epcot from the monorail for dinner reservations.
BoardWalk is regularly advertised by WDW to all guests to get them to go there.
No, it doesn't. All the current rides are the same distance from both gates or decidedly much closer to the main gate.
No, it's not.
They do the same with the monorail and that has existed fine for quite a while. The restaurants on the monorail loop *want* foot traffic. This forum and the internet can't say enough about going to the restaurants on the monorail loop. You may want a hotel devoid of guests, the hotel doesn't. Besides the Crescent Lake resorts are full of crowds worse than mere vacationers... they're overrun by conventioneers!
Naming the resorts that are already on Crescent Lake and then adding in the new resorts that will have Gondola access to the IG overstates the case of extra traffic. The IG already handles the traffic from the Crescent Lake resorts. It will add on CBR, Pop, and AoA... at least just those people who would have bussed to the front gate of Epcot. That's not really a significant extra number, especially considering that when the Gondola opens, the people choosing those resorts will have their eyes on DHS and SWL.
Monorail resorts have paid premium prices with folks using the monorail to go to their restaurants. You're not paying extra for reduced crowds. You're paying extra for being walking distance to two gates.
They could, but WDW has no reason to. They want people to go to the BoardWalk and the other Crescent Lake restaurants. They regularly advertise BoardWalk to all guests.
1. The gondolas can dispatch 200 people every six minutes... so, don't worry about crowds. Besides, the line-up will be for the people at the far-away resorts. The Crescent Lake people would just walk past them.
2. Jim Hill on Disney Dish is just wrong about WDW having no plans for the IG crowds. He's been wrong about a lot of things.
There is deceptively plenty of space. Big swath between the tapstiles and canal. A lot of area leading to the bridge. A lot of area left over around the station. And a lot of area on the walk way on the opposite side of the ferries.
There will be more capacity added for tapstiles. (Note the spelling of 'tapstile' as a variant of 'tunrstile'
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correcaminos
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I haven't seen the confirmation of such yet.. And note auto correct can make mistakes for me. I forgot to go back and change it. I already knew but tablets make for interesting spelling at timesThey do the same with the monorail and that has existed fine for quite a while. The restaurants on the monorail loop *want* foot traffic. This forum and the internet can't say enough about going to the restaurants on the monorail loop. You may want a hotel devoid of guests, the hotel doesn't. Besides the Crescent Lake resorts are full of crowds worse than mere vacationers... they're overrun by conventioneers!
Naming the resorts that are already on Crescent Lake and then adding in the new resorts that will have Gondola access to the IG overstates the case of extra traffic. The IG already handles the traffic from the Crescent Lake resorts. It will add on CBR, Pop, and AoA... at least just those people who would have bussed to the front gate of Epcot. That's not really a significant extra number, especially considering that when the Gondola opens, the people choosing those resorts will have their eyes on DHS and SWL.
Monorail resorts have paid premium prices with folks using the monorail to go to their restaurants. You're not paying extra for reduced crowds. You're paying extra for being walking distance to two gates.
They could, but WDW has no reason to. They want people to go to the BoardWalk and the other Crescent Lake restaurants. They regularly advertise BoardWalk to all guests.
1. The gondolas can dispatch 200 people every six minutes... so, don't worry about crowds. Besides, the line-up will be for the people at the far-away resorts. The Crescent Lake people would just walk past them.
2. Jim Hill on Disney Dish is just wrong about WDW having no plans for the IG crowds. He's been wrong about a lot of things.
There is deceptively plenty of space. Big swath between the tapstiles and canal. A lot of area leading to the bridge. A lot of area left over around the station. And a lot of area on the walk way on the opposite side of the ferries.
There will be more capacity added for tapstiles. (Note the spelling of 'tapstile' as a variant of 'tunrstile'
eliza61nyc
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LOL,
while that is a nice thought @larryz, it's probably not very realistic. I find most major construction projects to be the opposite. The problem with being totally "transparent" this far ahead is exactly what you see here. If things do not go EXACTLY has once advertised or announce, the public has a freaky deaky meltdown. Look at this site. how many "original plans" of rides have been published, scrutinized and critized?? every complaint thread includes one with the tag line "it was originally supposed to be done this way".
In that type of atmosphere why would a company let you know what it was planning on doing? especially at the stage where there is a good chance changes and delays will occur.
But your sentence does it the proverbial nail on the head. Folks here take Disney "personally", as if plans and offerings should be made to make "individuals" happy. which leads to bitter disappointment.
Sure IG was a great "secret" but guess what, secrets get out. they are not doing it to make people here upset. Like great little known restuarants, eventually the word gets out and everyone wants to get a table.
eliza61nyc
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Why would it effect any of these hotels? Yes one of the reason you pay is for the location but the location of these hotels isn't changing. You will still be able to walk to 2 parks. Not one amenity will change due to the Gondolas