In Defense of Florida's "It's a Small World"

Animaniac93-98

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I think like Florida's Pirates, the WDW version of Small World is seen as the weakest for several reasons, but having now been on all of them, I actually like it best, strange as that may sound. There's probably some nostalgia bias to that and my personal preference for not having Disney characters in it, but I thought this version could be given some credit for its own merits. Plus it's the only one you can look at from a Pizza restaurant, and I think that's kind of neat.

Much of this comes from the exterior. The tournament tent front does not compare in any way to the expansive topiary gardens and layered palace with the train running behind it. I won't debate otherwise, but I think it's important to think about how the open space beneath the tent is what allows you to see into the ride and appreciate the load area as you walk by. This was a common theme with the Fantasyland dark rides as well, which allowed you to see the cars go by these beautifully rendered not-quite-3D murals that sometimes had animated embellishments. In the case of Small World, the multi-coloured wall was augmented by blinking lights and the fountains in front, which gave movement to an otherwise flat space. It wasn't comparable to California's exterior, but it never was meant to be. While the effort in 2005 to bring the clocktower to Florida wasn't unsuccessful, I think it was a case of just trying to make something that was unique to Florida more like the original Disneyland (a common theme with WDI at the time). I also don't think the lengthily trip the boats take in Disneyland just to get in and out of the show building would work in Florida, or the uncovered, outdoor queue, that on a hot Southern California day is not very pleasant. Point being, the exterior, queue and load work well for the space they were built, unglamorous as it may seem, and not without functional purpose or even their own charm.

Another significance of this version was that it was the last to be art directed by Mary Blair herself and it wasn't just a copy of the original once you go inside. Besides the flooded space with guiderails replacing the fiberglass flume, every scene was restaged with added details (like Don Quixote) to take advantage of the new layout. Many sets and figures are much closer to eye level vs being on elevated platforms, which makes them easier to see from the boats, especially for small children. There's more space between vignettes, making them easier to read and more distinct, and more examples of going through scenes instead of past them. The elephant you sail under while leaving the Africa is a good example of this (in general I think this room may be the best example of how much the staging was improved. You don't have everything on one side, there's things to look at in every direction, and the space feels larger too). Florida, wonderfully, still has the Rainforest scene as well. Done with the simplest of effects (also used for a "waterfall" in Snow White's original load area) but all the more charming for it. It's also self contained so that your eyes can focus on it too instead of being lost in a clutter of competing elements (a problem I have with subsequent versions and revisions to other Small Worlds).

Tokyo's version, once you get into the boats and past the initial run, is a copy of Florida, except now with the Disney characters added. It found a way to use Disneyland's exterior clock tower and have it fit into that corner of Fantasyland, but that would look out of place in Fantasyland West at WDW, which is (or was) a great alpine village that indirectly set a standard for both EPCOT's Germany and Disneyland's 1983 redo of Fantasyland. Tokyo's version used to have a food court next to it, but I don't know if it had windows looking into the ride like at WDW. IMO adding more stuff into the existing tableaus (like characters) doesn't add to the experience.

Disneyland Paris has a nice version of the ride. I won't begrudge anyone for liking it better, or even thinking it's the best version, but I don't think it accurately reflects Mary Blair's style. There's recycled doll designs and iconography, but most of the scenic backdrops and flats are new and very different from her designs. Much more literal and detailed in their representations of trees and landmarks and so forth. While Paris tries to replicate the grand, outdoor exterior of California, the decision to have much of the flume and load area covered, makes it hard to see once you line up and get into the boats. It's actually best viewed from a distance.

Hong Kong is much like the original, but replaces the outdoor garden part with an indoor queue and load area. It has a larger Asia section and a ending that will look familiar to anyone who's been to WDW.

Perhaps the most enduring element of Florida's Small World is its finale. A wonderfully kinetic carnival, augmented by trim lights that's been the basis for every Small World since. In its own way, it's just as iconic as the clock tower facade. I think the best part of Tokyo's ride is the ending, which is just the WDW version in perfect condition, illustrating how good it was. I do think if WDW's version was as good condition it would be even more appreciated. There's certainly a lot to like as is IMO.
 
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The Empress Lilly

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Florida's IASW is obviously superior for two reasons:

- the MK façade is the best SW façade. At DL, IaSW is an afterthought, a latecomer. Tucked away in an empty backcorner of the park, it's own thing. At the MK, ASW (already the fourth different abbreviation I've used so far!) is fully integrated into its surroundings, into FL. And a medieval European village during a festival is obviously more attractive than a mid-century abstract flat façade. No-one prefers a holiday to a mid-1960s neighbourhood over a quaint Central European village, right?

- No characters! The MK respects the history of the ride and its message. It's singing dolls, but the ride is also trying to say something. If naïve, at least earnest. I love my Disney characters, but there's a time and place for everything. Kilimanjaro Safari doesn't need Simba and Black Panther AA's, the Haunted Mansion doesn't need Woody and Jess, and IASW doesn't need Ariel and Groot.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I've never understood why such a large part of Disney fandom insists the bottom picture is more attractive. Plain nostalgia? DL snobbery? Jealousy of the newborn, handsomer sibling?

I wish they had left the MK version well alone, or updated it according to its strengths rather than its weaknesses. It didn't need to adopt DL influences, it is its own thing.
 

Animaniac93-98

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I don't see why people keep claiming that the Magic Kingdom has the inferior version of everything.

It's a Disneyland bias and what I've found over the years is that because the company is based in California and Disneyland has so many passholders, both employees and fans dominated written discussions of the parks online and in print for many years.

Now you have many more people sharing opinions from around the world and greater access to information about the other Disney parks (also easier to get to some like Tokyo now)
 

Animaniac93-98

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Fantasyland West has been diminished since the turn of the century with the removal of the Skyway, but it was always a bit silly to try and look at Small World's exterior (or Peter Pan) in isolation and ignore all the elaborate architecture around them and on the path leading to the backside of Columbia Harbor House (cleverly disguised from Fantasyland)
 

Baloo124

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It's a Disneyland bias and what I've found over the years is that because the company is based in California and Disneyland has so many passholders, both employees and fans dominated written discussions of the park online and in print for many years.
I'll never forget my first DL visit in 1993. Some things just stood out as far superior than WDW.
Pirates!! I was floored by how great it was and wondered why so many scenes were missing from the WDW version.

The IASW exterior impressed me more at DL. The extra Fantasyland attractions, Alice, canal, Pinocchio, Matterhorn... all impressed me more.

Doesn't mean there was a bias or everything was suddenly wrong with WDW.
I missed Epcot badly out there.
I was underwhelmed with HM exterior compared to what I knew down in Florida. Walking paths seemed more cramped and crowded in areas...
 

Animaniac93-98

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I'll never forget my first DL visit in 1993. Some things just stood out as far superior than WDW.
Pirates!! I was floored by how great it was and wondered why so many scenes were missing from the WDW version.

The IASW exterior impressed me more at DL. The extra Fantasyland attractions, Alice, canal, Pinocchio, Matterhorn... all impressed me more.

Doesn't mean there was a bias or everything was suddenly wrong with WDW.
I missed Epcot badly out there.
I was underwhelmed with HM exterior compared to what I knew down in Florida. Walking paths seemed more cramped and crowded in areas...

That's how I felt when I first visited Disneyland as well.
 

The Empress Lilly

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I'll never forget my first DL visit in 1993. Some things just stood out as far superior than WDW.
Pirates!! I was floored by how great it was and wondered why so many scenes were missing from the WDW version.

The IASW exterior impressed me more at DL. The extra Fantasyland attractions, Alice, canal, Pinocchio, Matterhorn... all impressed me more.

Doesn't mean there was a bias or everything was suddenly wrong with WDW.
I missed Epcot badly out there.
I was underwhelmed with HM exterior compared to what I knew down in Florida. Walking paths seemed more cramped and crowded in areas...
DL is superb. Right now, easily better than the MK. But not in every aspect, nor at every or even most times since 1971.

Main Street feels more alive, less plastic and photopass dominated. Last trip it took me until 2pm to leave Town Square. Fantasyland, like you say, is so good with all those rides that I got tears in my eyes. Toad, a superb Alice, the canal boats...
And New Orleans with some live music can't be beat for atmosphere, even if the vibe feels a bit incrowd and overcrowded.
 

Baloo124

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Highly subjective indeed! We’re all entitled to our little preferences, frankly often biased and nostalgia-driven. Just trying to breathe some life in an interesting yet strangely dormant thread to get it off the ground.
I just don't get the whole "bias" accusations on people claiming certain aspects of DL trump aspects of WDW. And that also goes both ways.

My first visit to DL in 1993 I went in not knowing what to expect, pretty much other than what the castle would look like, and there would be a Matterhorn. Many other things I went in blindly and was pleasantly surprised. There was no bias or agenda programming me to like X,Y,Z, better or less. Back in those non-internet days, most of my park info other than personal visits was via The Disney Channel and other TV specials. Living on the east coast, it was 99% WDW content.
 

Baloo124

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Hey, I tried lol.

Obviously people liked what I said about ToT more.
Your IASW argument also holds water. It is a very well-done exterior, fitting of that particular Fantasyland.
Personally I like DL's better, but can see how one would find the FLA version superior with its "less is more" charm.

My only objection is the claim of bias being the drive for liking DL better.
 

J4546

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MK IaSW looks terrible imo, I love the mary blair aesthetic in DL version, along with the outdoor boat loading area. MK just looks forced into a space that should have a tangled ride imo. Relocate IasW somewhere else and plus it up imo. Also I love that pic is from like 1988 lol. Look show nice everyone is dressed, not a graphic tee in sight.
 

JIMINYCR

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Not having taken trips to other Dis areas other than WDW and DL I can only comment my likes between the two. For me the DL version is more to my liking for how the exterior draws one in and how it fits the area. The MK version IMHO is too bland and non inviting. The ride throughs are both entertaining and how the attraction is presented are very similar that I don't prefer one over the other. The figures throughout do not make me appreciate one more than the other and the song is annoying at both.
 

mattpeto

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I've never understood why such a large part of Disney fandom insists the bottom picture is more attractive. Plain nostalgia? DL snobbery? Jealousy of the newborn, handsomer sibling?

I wish they had left the MK version well alone, or updated it according to its strengths rather than its weaknesses. It didn't need to adopt DL influences, it is its own thing.
The picture on the bottom is infinitely more grand. They can run nightime shows off it.
 

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