I'm not going to Disney World any more!!!!!!

[Nemo14]

Without money, they won't be able to pay the electric bills, water bills, et cetera. I don't think many people realize that Disney is a business. How will they be able to pay for your favorite attractions? When it comes down to it all, when Disney makes an executive decision, it's for us. The people who come to Disney World because we love it. They need money to make the experience better for us. Disney has so many people working for them, and that's fantastic. I don't think hourly cuts are a crime. Look at the big picture and maybe you'll be able to see.

 

[Cesar R M]

Maybe the whole issue was "trying to leech as much they can without improving" ?
Look at universal.. they have been expanding and adding new stuff.. then they declared to have got a major lift in earnings.
Seems the CEO of WDW is more busy trying to cut corners or services than invest to improve to reach the expectations of the shareholders.

 

[Pocahontas]

Maybe the whole issue was "trying to leech as much they can without improving" ?
Look at universal.. they have been expanding and adding new stuff.. then they declared to have got a major lift in earnings.
Seems the CEO of WDW is more busy trying to cut corners or services than invest to improve to reach the expectations of the shareholders.

Neither of us know what they are actually going to do with the money. But, I don't think they would cut the pay of their valued employees for no reason.

 

[Cesar R M]

Neither of us know what they are actually going to do with the money. But, I don't think they would cut the pay of their valued employees for no reason.

Definitively.
That is usually a dirty tactic to make some of them be forced to resign.. Do you recon they are wanting to cut down them?

 

[draybook]

Neither of us know what they are actually going to do with the money. But, I don't think they would cut the pay of their valued employees for no reason.

Umm........TDO is giving us un-Magic bands and a land expansion with some half way decent stuff.

Uni is giving us another HP expansion, a new resort, the Simpsons area, Despicable Me ride, Transformers and more to come.

 

[Pocahontas]

Definitively.
That is usually a dirty tactic to make some of them be forced to resign.. Do you recon they are wanting to cut down them?

No...
I'm not CERTAIN that the money will go towards important things, but why wouldn't it? They're building Avatar Land, or are at least in the process of creating it. This way (by reducing pay), they will be slowly gaining money that will most likely go towards this project. And other projects! Like Disney Springs. And DVC buildings. Honestly, I think this money will just further the improvement. And make Disney more enjoyable.

 

[WondersOfLife]

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[Pocahontas]

Umm........TDO is giving us un-Magic bands and a land expansion with some half way decent stuff.

Uni is giving us another HP expansion, a new resort, the Simpsons area, Despicable Me ride, Transformers and more to come.

Hah! I bet Uni doesn't have half the workers that Disney has.

 

[draybook]

Hah! I bet Uni doesn't have half the workers that Disney has.

No, but they all smile at us and greet us. That's more than I can say about our WDW trip in September. And you'd be surprised at how many Universal employees used to work for the mouse, and they have very interesting stories to tell.

 

[Cesar R M]

Hah! I bet Uni doesn't have half the workers that Disney has.

You cant compare them exactly the same, as UNI is a single park, vs disney's monster of hotels+transport+parks

 

[Pocahontas]

You cant compare them exactly the same, as UNI is a single park, vs disney's monster of hotels+transport+parks

EXACTLY my point! Since Disney is so large and has so many employees, they need more money that Universal does. Uni doesn't have to pay for all the crap Disney does. That's why they have more money for attractions.

 

[draybook]

Keep telling yourself that......

 

[Pocahontas]

Keep telling yourself that......

Keep telling myself what? It's only the facts, it's logic.

 

[Cesar R M]

EXACTLY my point! Since Disney is so large and has so many employees, they need more money that Universal does. Uni doesn't have to pay for all the crap Disney does. That's why they have more money for attractions.

he actually as a point, because of the size and the number of parks, they should also be getting MORE MONEY to balance them out.
Having more options = more money.
UNI would lose people and money if they "went somewhere else".
Disney would still get money wherever you go inside Disney world.

and they should also be getting even more money due of their own chain of Hotels.

 

[Pocahontas]

he actually as a point, because of the size and the number of parks, they should also be getting MORE MONEY to balance them out.
Having more options = more money.
UNI would lose people and money if they "went somewhere else".
Disney would still get money wherever you go inside Disney world.

and they should also be getting even more money due of their own chain of Hotels.

Yes, but with all that extra stuff, it costs more. More water bills to pay, more wifi that is free to customers, more electricity and food. Add the buses, water taxis, and not to mention the thousands of employees... that's a lot of money. This is why the might not be making as much profit as needed for these projects, and employees are paid less.

 

[draybook]

Keep telling myself what? It's only the facts, it's logic.

So we've seen the many accounts from people about maintenance being put on the back burner, not to mention the former attractions that have been shuttered. It can't be going towards the CMs......have you seen what they get paid? Oh, I know......it must be going towards that $50 million incentive/pay bonus that Bob got this past year.....

You can keep making all the excuses that you want for TDo, but there's plenty of people on this forum that have 10-40 years experience of visiting WDW and they've noticed the decline. That trumps whatever you or I might think.

And how can you think they don't make as much profit? There are people here that are quick to point out just how many millions more people visit WDW as opposed to Universal. Surely those millions x their spending can balance out the size/expense difference........

 

[Cesar R M]

Yes, but with all that extra stuff, it costs more. More water bills to pay, more wifi that is free to customers, more electricity and food. Add the buses, water taxis, and not to mention the thousands of employees... that's a lot of money. This is why the might not be making as much profit as needed for these projects, and employees are paid less.

It still should balance itself out.
The only thing that would make them lose money would be the transportation.
All the hotels should be balancing themselves out in water, electricity and services.

Since WDW is a "perfect" ecosystem where almost all is included (and charged of course..) there would be almost no money loss vs a sole Resort with a sole park (example, the company would not get more money if the clients decided to stay in another hotel that is not of the company chain).

Business wise.. the perfect ecosystem would make WDW earn MORE MONEY than a single park.

So we've seen the many accounts from people about maintenance being put on the back burner, not to mention the former attractions that have been shuttered. It can't be going towards the CMs......have you seen what they get paid? Oh, I know......it must be going towards that $50 million incentive/pay bonus that Bob got this past year.....

You can keep making all the excuses that you want for TDo, but there's plenty of people on this forum that have 10-40 years experience of visiting WDW and they've noticed the decline. That trumps whatever you or I might think.

You know a company is going downhill when they start to give their CEOS huge bonuses when the number of customers, clients and $$$ hasnt increased to the expected levels. (Ie, this would fit perfectly in my opinion about leeching all they can on stuff they already have, than risk what UNI is doing.. aka investing and improving hard to attract more customers)

 

[Pocahontas]

So we've seen the many accounts from people about maintenance being put on the back burner, not to mention the former attractions that have been shuttered. It can't be going towards the CMs......have you seen what they get paid? Oh, I know......it must be going towards that $50 million incentive/pay bonus that Bob got this past year.....

You can keep making all the excuses that you want for TDo, but there's plenty of people on this forum that have 10-40 years experience of visiting WDW and they've noticed the decline. That trumps whatever you or I might think.

I haven't had the bad experiences you have had at Disney... I've been going annually for many years. You always defend Universal to the death. Tis might lead to biased stances from both of us. Disney isn't easy to run, and there are some things money can't fix.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Thread bump. UGH.

 

[Cesar R M]

I haven't had the bad experiences you have had at Disney... I've been going annually for many years. You always defend Universal to the death. Tis might lead to biased stances from both of us. Disney isn't easy to run, and there are some things money can't fix.

no offense, but you work at Disney in any management position or similar?
how do you know "how hard" is to manage a disney park vs any other park of other companies?