fiftiesdean
Active Member
Agreed, but it seems like a very far-fetched rumor that he will just magically turn everything around.
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Iger Trying To Revive Disney Animation
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SpenceMan01
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Anyone see the article today at JHM about everyone portraying Iger as a Disney God?
Iger is doing an amazing job of cleaning up the mistakes of Eisner and keeping the correctly done achievements alive. He has made good relations with Pixar, George Lucas, and now he is just making Disney fans happier...
dave2822
New Member
jedimaster1227 said:
We don't really know how much he's actually done. What we do know is that he is making good first impressions. The Pixar thing was bound to happen, Jobs would have opened up talks with just about anyone. We don't know anything about the George Lucas situation yet.
And by everyone's blame / praise who is in charge theory, we should still be talking about Eisner, who still is in charge.
dave2822 said:
Yes we do, he is the one who is prepping so that when he does take over, he already has friends in higher places. Pixar: Obviously; Jobs are always popping up; George- Yes we do, he said it himself, Star Tours was getting an overhaul, Eisner was always against this, this was Iger's doing, because, he also set it up so SW Episode III is going to be shown on ABC, of which he currently is the president of, so, it is his doing.
Chape19714
Well-Known Member
I really hope this is true. I hope that all sorts of things change once Iger takes over. Just my opinion. Hopefully Iger can turn a bunch of things around.
dave2822
New Member
jedimaster1227 said:
Yes but Pixar was coming crawling back anyway, and Iger was there fortunately. I'm not about to disagree with you, after all I am the one with the Iger avatar / signature here, obviously I support him.
What I am saying is lets keep this in perspective. He is doing what we want to see (demolishing Strategic Planning), making connections, building bridges. He's lucky he has low expectations coming in at this point of Eisner's reign, because Eisner's 20 year run brought great things to this company. When Jack Welch of GE left after 20 years, he certainly wasn't chased out, and the next in line had impossible expectations.
So he has our support because people get so crazily anti-Eisner.
And people shouldn't be getting to zip-ah-dee-doo-dah over this supposed major Star Tours overhaul. This hasn't been confirmed. I'm hoping for it, but I'll believe it when I see it.
And that's the basis of everything right now. You said it yourself, he is prepping himself, he hasn't actually really done anything yet. Conversation is open, deals haven't been made. Just stop asking so much of him when he isn't even in charge yet. Many of his decisions can only be judged as good / bad years in the future, like Eisner's.
Agreed, but Star Tours can wait in the lines of redos of Journey into Imagination- fixing the Eisner/Kodak mistake and bringing back Dreamfinder, reuniting him with his long lost friend, Figment!
TTATraveler
Active Member
While it would be great to bring the Animation Department back to its glory days in FL, I won't belive it until an official announcement is made.
MissM
Well-Known Member
Um...it's fact that the Feature Animation was closed in Florida, Paris and Tokyo. It's not just a rumor.
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But now he is watching the only job he ever wanted fade to black. On Nov. 14, production was halted on the Florida studio's only project, A Few Good Ghosts.
David Stainton, Disney president of feature animation, told about 250 employees of the studio, located in the Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park, that they would be paid through Jan. 12.
"Stainton told us they're keeping their options open," Grasso says, "that there was no final decision about the animation studio.
"But we were encouraged to seek other employment."
This year, Disney closed its feature animation studios in Tokyo and Paris and laid off more than 100 staffers in its California and Florida studios. Animation desks from the California studio that were relics of the days of the Nine Old Men, Walt Disney's legendary animation team, were auctioned off in December.
-Source (December 23, 2003)
Also:David Stainton, Disney president of feature animation, told about 250 employees of the studio, located in the Disney-MGM Studios Theme Park, that they would be paid through Jan. 12.
"Stainton told us they're keeping their options open," Grasso says, "that there was no final decision about the animation studio.
"But we were encouraged to seek other employment."
This year, Disney closed its feature animation studios in Tokyo and Paris and laid off more than 100 staffers in its California and Florida studios. Animation desks from the California studio that were relics of the days of the Nine Old Men, Walt Disney's legendary animation team, were auctioned off in December.
-Source (December 23, 2003)
Disney To Abandon Florida Animation Studio
January 12, 2004 - Burbank , Calif. -- Walt Disney Feature Animation has completed the final stage of its production reorganization with the announcement of the closure of its Florida animation facility, it was announced today by David Stainton, president Walt Disney Feature Animation. All Disney animation creative and production activities will be housed solely at The Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, California.
-source: SaveDisney.com Special Edition: The Closure of Disney Feature Animation In Florida
Also:January 12, 2004 - Burbank , Calif. -- Walt Disney Feature Animation has completed the final stage of its production reorganization with the announcement of the closure of its Florida animation facility, it was announced today by David Stainton, president Walt Disney Feature Animation. All Disney animation creative and production activities will be housed solely at The Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, California.
-source: SaveDisney.com Special Edition: The Closure of Disney Feature Animation In Florida
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The closure of Walt Disney Feature Animation’s Orlando, Florida, operations on January 12, 2004 — and the associated layoff of 250 people — came as a shock to the central Florida animation industry. Many former Disney employees subsequently have moved from Orlando to seek jobs in California, Canada and even India, some permanently and some leaving their families behind in the hopes of returning. Others have left the animation business altogether or are trying to survive as freelancers. Meanwhile, a handful of former Disneyites have launched new studios, hiring a few people initially and hoping to use additional animators on a project basis. [/font]
[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Disney Orlando employees had heard about the troubles at Disney’s worldwide feature animation operations, including massive layoffs in California and at the company’s Paris- and Canada-based studios. Closer to home, they had taken pay cuts and seen smaller layoffs of Orlando workers. But many believed that Orlando would be exempt from any large upheaval because of its strong track record since it was established in 1989. [/font]
-source: Moving Forward in the Wake of Disney Orlando Closure
Orlando brought us Mulan and the hugely successful Lilo and Stich. And it's dead and gone now. Which was tragic. If they got sense back in them and re-opened it, it'd be a beautiful day. Shutting down Feature Animation was, in my opinion, a horrible afront to the company Walt started.[font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Disney Orlando employees had heard about the troubles at Disney’s worldwide feature animation operations, including massive layoffs in California and at the company’s Paris- and Canada-based studios. Closer to home, they had taken pay cuts and seen smaller layoffs of Orlando workers. But many believed that Orlando would be exempt from any large upheaval because of its strong track record since it was established in 1989. [/font]
-source: Moving Forward in the Wake of Disney Orlando Closure
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General Grizz
New Member
Can't really reopen it without a major investment. The site of animation is now home to Character Quizzes and Microsoft Paint-style activities for Disney-MGM Studios guests. GUH.
"Brother Bear" was also a good flick.
"Brother Bear" was also a good flick.
MayKingMajikHpn
New Member
General Grizz said:
Great movie!
speck76 said:
No, thats a plus, not a problem, it is in response to the statemnt that it would be difficult to bring back all of the artists for the animation site...
imagineersrock
New Member
Taking the "tour" last week was so depressing, especially after seeing the animation building in DCA.General Grizz said:
Our tour has some great components: The intro with Mushu is very entertaining (when you have a decent CM.) The display cases could be a lot more impressive... but its a start. The different activities, basic as they may be are somewhat entertaining (particularly the voice recording... everyone seems to love those.) Finally, the Animation Academy is a top-notch addition! I've watched any and all age groups thoroughly enjoy this.
Now here are my gripes... The entire facility is waaay to "open" it makes it look as though there is even less to do then there is... also, everything is so bland, plain, and unimaginative. If this new version of the tour is what we MUST learn to live with, at least make it visually impressive. This is not the type of environment the Imagineers or Feature Animation would enjoy working in.
In my opinion, we need to bring back FA to the Disney-MGM Studios... and for that matter, bring back a revival of FA in general. Computer animation is great, but so are films like Lion King, Aladdin, and Beauty and the Beast. I think its about time we see another return of quality hand-drawn animation like that of the late 80's-90's... and -finally- ENOUGH WITH THE OVERKILL! This is the reason why animation isn't what it used to be... over-saturation. Cut the Cinderella 3 direct to video crap, and bring back the one great film a year (or every few years.) This system works, plain and simple. Just look at Pixar... they've got it down right now.
CaptainMichael
Well-Known Member
imagineersrock said:
I completely agree. Computer animation works well in certain cases, and Pixar and Dreamworks have shown us this. However, some things just don't work in Computer animation. How would Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, or The Little Mermaid look done in computer animation??? There is just something about Classic animation and a GOOD story. I used to look forward to Disney movies, but that died a long time ago. Lion King was the last great classic. Tarzan was okay.
speck76
Well-Known Member
There is no reason to have WDFA with locations in Burbank and Orlando.
Being an animator is not for everyone, and a company like WDC should only hire the best of the best......when the studio got too big, the quality of staff suffered.
Instead of working a 1 or 2 films at a time, they were working on 4 or more.......this meant more animators, writers, directors, and so on.
Obviously, not everyone had what it takes, as once the FA films were being "mass produced", the films started to fail.
If WDC was to every reopen the animation studio in Orlando, it would be smarter to have that location be repsonsible for another animated product, be it short films, or whatever.....it just makes sense to keep the best people together, in one location, and not thinning to pool of quality.
Being an animator is not for everyone, and a company like WDC should only hire the best of the best......when the studio got too big, the quality of staff suffered.
Instead of working a 1 or 2 films at a time, they were working on 4 or more.......this meant more animators, writers, directors, and so on.
Obviously, not everyone had what it takes, as once the FA films were being "mass produced", the films started to fail.
If WDC was to every reopen the animation studio in Orlando, it would be smarter to have that location be repsonsible for another animated product, be it short films, or whatever.....it just makes sense to keep the best people together, in one location, and not thinning to pool of quality.
DisneyRoxMySox
Well-Known Member
I think if Iger is everything we seem to be thinking lately, FA, will have a complete turn around. Just my opinion.
KevinPage
Well-Known Member
EVERYONE CALM DOWN.
I actually suggest an article today over at Jim Hill you read, it's spot on (not written by Jim of course).
Iger is getting waaaaaay too much credit for anything positive that goes on these days, almost cause we are looking for a way to wash the bad taste of the Eisner monarachy out of our mouth.
We really should take a wait and see approach before rushing to gush over a newbie.
I actually suggest an article today over at Jim Hill you read, it's spot on (not written by Jim of course).
Iger is getting waaaaaay too much credit for anything positive that goes on these days, almost cause we are looking for a way to wash the bad taste of the Eisner monarachy out of our mouth.
We really should take a wait and see approach before rushing to gush over a newbie.