Iger on CNBC this afternoon ...

the.dreamfinder

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Sorry, but while it might be kewl for some of us old-time Disney fans, most folks don't know who the character is and they don't care.

Disney 'traded' to get Oswald's rights back as a PR move for the company and as a goodwill gesture from Iger to Diane Disney.
How large was TWDC's donation to The Walt Disney Family Museum at the Presideo?
 

Captain Neo

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Sorry, but while it might be kewl for some of us old-time Disney fans, most folks don't know who the character is and they don't care.

Disney 'traded' to get Oswald's rights back as a PR move for the company and as a goodwill gesture from Iger to Diane Disney.

Actually Iger has made several attempts to create a brand out of Oswald. Particularly with the Epic Mickey video game series that he was one of the main characters of.
 

lazyboy97o

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From what I remember when I did basic analysis of Pepsi, it is more popular than Coca-Cola in the US. However, Coca-Cola destroys Pepsi worldwide. If you compare Pepsi's beverage segment to Coca-Cola, I believe Coca-Cola is bigger. Pepsi does snacks as well... Frito Lay and Quaker. Not to mention the only thing Coca-Cola makes in carbonated beverages is the powder. They sell it to bottlers via licensing (think Tokyo Disneyland).

They are competitors obviously in beverages but they are very different in how they operate as a whole.
Pepsi just barely beats out Coke in blind taste tests, even here in the US. That is why New Coke was supposed to be such a great thing, as it was beating out Pepsi by a similar margin. The Coca-Cola Company is also now involved in bottling since they purchased the North American operations of Coca-Cola Enterprises (a move some, including myself, had hoped would see the return to sugar in the US and Canadian markets).
 

Darth Sidious

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Pepsi just barely beats out Coke in blind taste tests, even here in the US. That is why New Coke was supposed to be such a great thing, as it was beating out Pepsi by a similar margin. The Coca-Cola Company is also now involved in bottling since they purchased the North American operations of Coca-Cola Enterprises (a move some, including myself, had hoped would see the return to sugar in the US and Canadian markets).

I wasn't aware that they did that but now that you mention it I think I remember reading about the acquisition. Anyway, New Coke... Sore topic for them lol.
 

jt04

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A broken yeti in one ride of the parks in one of the resorts wouldn't even make a blimp on the radar of the CEO of the world's largest media company. That "SOB" runs Disney not WDW. I totally agree with you that it needs to be fixed and it's totally unacceptable that it remains broken but I blame TDO for not taking the initiative to get it fixed and I blame the customers who keep pouring through the gates each day and willingly part with their money for a subpar product. Iger isn't even going to be aware there is a problem with WDW until revenue decreases, timeshares stop selling, negative press starts popping up in the news, and people start filing complaints with Disney.

Additionally, i'd like to point out that if you think maintenance is bad under Iger it was even WORSE under Eisner where rides broke down constantly and people even died as a result. Space Mountain at Disneyland almost became the sight of a very horrific tragedy but a chance inspection allowed Disney to dodge the bullet.

I make this final point to him all the time. He will not give Iger credit for anything at the parks even though he has been much better at rehabilitation projects and infrastructure at WDW. Iger is leaving the next CEO a great canvas to paint on as far as WDW parks are concerned as it pertains to new attractions.

Iger has been more concerned with media and growing Disney globally as that is what he choose as his priority.
 

PeterAlt

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I know nothing at all about any infrastructure put in the LBV area whatsoever for any transport. I know they had monorail expansion plans back in the 70s and 80s, but I think they just mapped out a route (that goes thru what is now SSR, I might add and is in the contracts). I do not believe anything beyond that was done.

The 90s ones I actually had a former rails CM point out locales for where beams would go. EPCOT Resorts would have shared one station roughly where the Yacht Club Convention Center sits. But that's about it ... and I don't want a monorail expansion thread, sorry. I've played in those dirty waters enough.
Thanks!
 

PhotoDave219

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I make this final point to him all the time. He will not give Iger credit for anything at the parks even though he has been much better at rehabilitation projects and infrastructure at WDW. Iger is leaving the next CEO a great canvas to paint on as far as WDW parks are concerned as it pertains to new attractions.

Iger has been more concerned with media and growing Disney globally as that is what he choose as his priority.

I'll give Iger that. He's done a good job of stoping the boat from sinking. By comparison to the final 5 Eisner years, yes. He's better. He did a good job on mending fences that were burned by Eisner.
 

WDW1974

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Pepsi just barely beats out Coke in blind taste tests, even here in the US. That is why New Coke was supposed to be such a great thing, as it was beating out Pepsi by a similar margin. The Coca-Cola Company is also now involved in bottling since they purchased the North American operations of Coca-Cola Enterprises (a move some, including myself, had hoped would see the return to sugar in the US and Canadian markets).

While I agree with the point, did I miss where Iger talked about Coke? Was he harping on refillable mugs?

BTW, I don't know if it's just me, but Coke tastes so much better in most nations I've traveled to than it does here. Have no idea if it's sugar because I don't believe that's used everywhere else, just some places ...
 

WDW1974

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I wasn't aware that they did that but now that you mention it I think I remember reading about the acquisition. Anyway, New Coke... Sore topic for them lol.

Just an FYI, but WDW was one of the last huge contracts to demand a switch back to what then was known as Coke Classic after the New Coke fiasco. For quite a while, you could get the real stuff again in Publix or Walgreens or any fast food outlet, but WDW still was offering the swill that was New Coke. At least back then they did have Cherry Coke at most places.
 

PhotoDave219

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W
That be the one ... the one also remembered as the official killing of Monday Night Football as well.

No big loss. Had ABC just continued to focus on the main product of football, and concerned themselves less with the antics going on inside the booth, Monday night football would not have fallen to where it is.

Another case of "too much tinkering."

And frankly, if you're going to ask for a PTBNL in a deal, It might as well be a property that should have always been with the company in the first place.
 

WDW1974

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I make this final point to him all the time. He will not give Iger credit for anything at the parks even though he has been much better at rehabilitation projects and infrastructure at WDW. Iger is leaving the next CEO a great canvas to paint on as far as WDW parks are concerned as it pertains to new attractions.

FACT: WDW's attractions and infrastructure have been in worse shape under Iger than Eisner. Yes, work in some places to change that has finally happened, but things in other places (like DAK or monorails) are worse than ever.

FACT: DL was in godawful shape from around 1998-2003 under Eisner, BUT he was the CEO in charge when DL's 50th rehab was budgeted and completed.

FACT: DL has continued to improve under Iger (but was under Eisner) while WDW has continued to falter under Iger (as it had started under Eisner).

Iger has been more concerned with media and growing Disney globally as that is what he choose as his priority.

Make up whatever excuse you like, none are acceptable. The company isn't going broke. Do you know the current market cap of DIS is an astounding $103 BILLION and change right now. It has never been worth more. That may mean that your boy has done a good job for Wall Street and my portfolio. But it also means Disney has more than enough resources to spread around so basic maintaining of attractions and facilities and infrastructure at WDW shouldn't be even a blip of concern for him. The $$$ is there.
 

WDW1974

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W

No big loss. Had ABC just continued to focus on the main product of football, and concerned themselves less with the antics going on inside the booth, Monday night football would not have fallen to where it is.

Another case of "too much tinkering."

Disagree, Dave. When ABC had MNF it was a national event, no matter who was playing. I was always watching. But by shipping it to ESPN and having multiple games many nights, it became just another game. For all practical purposes, NBC's Sunday Night Football is what MNF once was -- the must see primetime game.

I understand why they did it financially. Just like killing the storied ABC Sports BRAND, so they could shill ESPN even on ABC. But I don't like it. And you could count on a few fingers the number of Monday games I watched last season.
 

DisneyGuyNYC

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Pepsi just barely beats out Coke in blind taste tests, even here in the US. That is why New Coke was supposed to be such a great thing, as it was beating out Pepsi by a similar margin. The Coca-Cola Company is also now involved in bottling since they purchased the North American operations of Coca-Cola Enterprises (a move some, including myself, had hoped would see the return to sugar in the US and Canadian markets).
Actually I read up on this a while back. The reason people choose Pepsi in a taste test is because the taste profile is better with one small sip. If you give people a bottle to drink and then took a survey people choose Coke because it tastes better after a few minutes of drinking.

I don't care either way it's just what the studies found. There was a lot of justification scientifically too.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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I was always more of a Pepsi fan for the taste itself. But I find Coke more thirst quenching if i'm in a hot environment and want to cool down. I've gone back and forth between the two depending on which situation i'm in. It's been quite a long time now since I've had a Pepsi. Though I did try one of those real sugar Cokes recently and really enjoyed it (for some reason corn syrup leaves this nasty bitter after taste on my tongue that real sugar doesn't).

Personally i've always been more of a fan of root beer anyways. Barqs, and that's apparently a Coke product. I've never been a huge cola drinker. Though I very rarely drink sodas anymore in the first place, kind of lost my taste for them and they usually just end up making me more thirsty compared to water or even juice. Probably the sodium in them.
 

djlaosc

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Disagree, Dave. When ABC had MNF it was a national event, no matter who was playing. I was always watching. But by shipping it to ESPN and having multiple games many nights, it became just another game. For all practical purposes, NBC's Sunday Night Football is what MNF once was -- the must see primetime game.

I understand why they did it financially. Just like killing the storied ABC Sports BRAND, so they could shill ESPN even on ABC. But I don't like it. And you could count on a few fingers the number of Monday games I watched last season.

I'll say this (from the UK) - Sunday Night Football was on our equivalent of CBS/ABC/NBC/FOX/CW, Monday Night Football was internet over here for last season!
 

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