Iger and Chapek Livid With Lucasfilm

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Really?? I'm talking about the ghost galaxy mountain thing where the ghosts pop up and stuff... My family and I had a BLAST on that!
Whatever one they had in 2016...it was awful. Bad howling overlays and light effects...

I know how to find a haunted hayride run by the lions club in a field...if I needed one 😉
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Ok, I actually rode HyperSpace Mountain at Disneyland and that was really good. But it could just be that their Space Mountain is better in general.

If we're talking seasonal Space Mountains, I want the halloween one.

Yes, but Hyperspace Mountain is SW in MK. Which means SW is in more than one park and thus you have now forsworn ever returning to WDW!
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Yes, but Hyperspace Mountain is SW in MK. Which means SW is in more than one park and thus you have now forsworn ever returning to WDW!
Yes, but it’s very loose theming. It’s literally still space mountain. It would be the one exception.
If Tomorrowland goes the complete Disneyland route tho? That’d be majorly screwed up man. That’s not right. It should just be in one park.

I would Prefer space mountain to just get a major update and just remain, well space mountain.
 
This nonsense doesn’t stop until Kennedy is gone. But that will only stop the bleeding. Disney will need to look outwards to find a replacement.

Filoni and Favreau are great writers and directors but you need a Feige-esque (circa 2008) person who has fan’s love of the material, has a grand vision and hasn’t been sucked in by the horror that is Hollywood.

I have no idea who that is, but whoever it is, they aren’t in a prolific position yet...
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Filoni and Favreau are great writers and directors but you need a Feige-esque (circa 2008) person who has fan’s love of the material, has a grand vision and hasn’t been sucked in by the horror that is Hollywood.

I have no idea who that is, but whoever it is, they aren’t in a prolific position yet...

What the MCU has achieved is truly unprecedented. There may never be another Fiege.
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
This nonsense doesn’t stop until Kennedy is gone. But that will only stop the bleeding. Disney will need to look outwards to find a replacement.

Filoni and Favreau are great writers and directors but you need a Feige-esque (circa 2008) person who has fan’s love of the material, has a grand vision and hasn’t been sucked in by the horror that is Hollywood.

I have no idea who that is, but whoever it is, they aren’t in a prolific position yet...
Kevin Feige didn’t grow up reading comics and wasn’t a fan of them really until working under Lauren Shuler Donner on X-Men.

Feige identifies himself as a Marvel comic fan, but he’s a recent convert. Growing up in Westfield, N.J., he was obsessed with movies
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Some Disney execs imagine they’re responsible for Fiege’s MCU success that began at Paramount.
Bingo! When George Lucas hired Kathleen Kennedy to head Lucasfilm and produce the sequel trilogy, they were nowhere near where Marvel Studios was when they were acquired.

Also, if you care about SW or film history, start making more of a stink about what happened to JW Rinzler’s “Making of Star Wars: The Force Awakens”. He had full access to the project pre-Disney through post production. It was slated to be released three or four months after TFA came out, but was pulled for unknown reasons.

That book is the Rosetta Stone to understanding what went down on TFA and how that cascaded onto pretty much every live action SW project.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Bingo! When George Lucas hired Kathleen Kennedy to head Lucasfilm and produce the sequel trilogy, they were nowhere near where Marvel Studios was when they were acquired.

Also, if you care about SW or film history, start making more of a stink about what happened to JW Rinzler’s “Making of Star Wars: The Force Awakens”. He had full access to the project pre-Disney through post production. It was slated to be released three or four months after TFA came out, but was pulled for unknown reasons.

That book is the Rosetta Stone to understanding what went down on TFA and how that cascaded onto pretty much every live action SW project.
The Sweatbox Redux. Maybe one day we will get a leak.
 

Dutch Inn '76

Well-Known Member
Does Iger and Chapek have anything to do with Lucasfilm? I've never read anything that shows they are involved, certainly not in the creative sense. Livid for rich people means they didn't get their voicemail returned fast enough.

As the CEO/CotB, the Bobs can be as involved with Lucasfilm as they want to be: they can call the shots, or let KK do it. They can fire her or appoint someone else (with Board oversight). That's the blessing & curse of being in charge.

Of course if KK has any pride, she will only take so much meddling...
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

Well-Known Member
As far as MCU and interconnected...I’ve been rewatching/reading about them lately and they are much more connected than I knew. It’s amazing.

When nick fury breaks into Captain America’s apartment after they try to kill him in winter soldier....the song playing on his stereo was the same as the final scene of endgame. That was chosen for end game (2019) and put in a film released in 2014. That’s cool.

And when cap is in Peggy carter’s office (1967) and sees the picture of himself on her desk...it’s significant for two reasons:
1. Tommy lee jones gives her the classified file it’s in in her final shot of the first avenger...she looks at it and it fades. She stole it off screen.
2. It was of the slimmed down Steve Rogers before he was captain America. The writer/director intent was that she loved him without the muscles...and again: one scene was set up in a movie released 8 years before.

I think those things are so cool.
#thankthewriters :) Credit to Markus & McFeely who wrote all three Captain America films, both Infinity War and Endgame, as well as creating the Agent Carter tv series. You get that level of continuity when writers get to tell a story from beginning to end. <3
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
This nonsense doesn’t stop until Kennedy is gone. But that will only stop the bleeding. Disney will need to look outwards to find a replacement.

Filoni and Favreau are great writers and directors but you need a Feige-esque (circa 2008) person who has fan’s love of the material, has a grand vision and hasn’t been sucked in by the horror that is Hollywood.

I have no idea who that is, but whoever it is, they aren’t in a prolific position yet...
Not Feige-esque. Literally Feige.
 

Heppenheimer

Well-Known Member
In general, as a rule of thumb, a movie costs 1.5 times it's reported production budget for marketing and studio overhead.

In general, as a rule of thumb, a studio only makes half the Box Office gross because the other half goes to the movie theater.

So, Marvel has made only about $5B in profit (for the movies in the theatrical window).

SW movies have made only about $1B in profit (the the movies in the theatrical window).

Of course, there's a lot more money to be made in post-theatrical markets, merchandise, and boosting Disney+ and the parks.
Not true about movie theaters (unless the business model has completely changed since the 90s, when I last worked at one). The theater keeps, at most, 15% of the tickets sales, and often far less. They make virtually all their money selling you snacks.
 

The_Jobu

Well-Known Member
Alright, I usually am the one explaining what's going on behind the scenes, but I could use a little help with this one. I've got a friend in the know who says this morning (Pacific Time), both Bob Iger and Bob Chapek are unhappy with Lucasfilm and there is faster than normal movement going on to get high level meetings going. What the heck is going on? I'm on the road, so I can't dig on this, but what could possibly be going on with Lucasfilm that would create a scurry when everybody is basically working from home if at all? The term used was "livid" but I just can't imagine what they could possibly have done.

Maybe they actually looked at what they've done to the franchise in the last few years.
 

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