EricsBiscuit
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If you could choose the location of the next park, where would you put it?
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AshaNeOmah
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Unless the company can't find a location that works, I don't understand why South America isn't the obvious answer and already in the works.
420 million people on the continent, with a per capita GDP (PPP) of $15k. In 2005 The Chinese number was a little under $2k in 2005 when Hong Kong DL opened. Even Hong Kong's number was only $26k, with a much smaller population. Higher than the South American per capita average, but close to Chile and Argentina today.
It just makes sense to focus on that continent.
420 million people on the continent, with a per capita GDP (PPP) of $15k. In 2005 The Chinese number was a little under $2k in 2005 when Hong Kong DL opened. Even Hong Kong's number was only $26k, with a much smaller population. Higher than the South American per capita average, but close to Chile and Argentina today.
It just makes sense to focus on that continent.
POLY LOVER
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Nowhere until they can handle the parks they have now.
Captain Barbossa
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Amen to that.
Population is good.... but you can't use per capital GDP in this case. It paints a much rosier picture than the reality is in South America. Consider Brazil's average income is just over 600 dollars a month. meaning your GDP number is overstating the money the people actually have by more than 100%.
Reality is you would need to look at the disposable income of the people also not simply the amount they have. Factor in the cost of the labor and everything else that would impact the park to see how much ticket prices would be and whether the people would be able to afford the park. I don't think that is going to happen in South America for a while. Not enough disposable income available for most people to support a park there yet.
Princess Leia
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A third park for Anaheim to stick Marvel and Pixar so they can redo DCA back to it’s California theme, and then spend any other potential new park money in WDW and Paris to fix and plus attractions.
networkpro
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There's this little thing called political stability which makes any long term investment a significant risk that outweighs the ROI. Look at Venezuela.
Seabasealpha1
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Yeah...they half-patootie things as they are now...with the four parks they've got. Another one seems to be a bad idea.
Maybe someday when they start caring less about cutting corners...
"...quality will out!"
Maybe someday when they start caring less about cutting corners...
"...quality will out!"
AshaNeOmah
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I used Purchasing Power Parity for the per capita number, but I'm sure you're right about the disposable income. I would wonder if that wasn't also seen as a problem in China outside of the actual cities of Hong Kong and Shanghai.
Brazil has been stable for over 30 years now. Tiananmen Square occurred more recently than major political unrest in Brazil. From a quick search, they seem to be experiencing economic issues now, but they remain the 8th largest economy in the world.
I still say a single Disneyland style park makes sense in the near future.
Phonedave
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Stick it in the Xanadu / American Dream facility in the Meadowlands. The indoor ski slope worked so well, an indoor them park is the next logical progression.
-dave
Lol that place is such a waste of space right now it would be great to find a use for it.
TheDuke
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I'm sure plenty of people in Latin America go to Disneyland/WDW. That creates a lot of the same issues EuroDisney had.
To me if there's going to be a whole new resort Australia is the obvious choice because they're so far away from the US and probably don't want to go to Disney in Japan or China for cultural/language reasons. It's sort of an "untapped" market for them.
Very good point... Though often times companies have a very short memory. I worked for a company in the 90's that had left international business after some of their assets in South America got nationalized back in the 1970's... For quite some time they had a sworn mantra of nothing outside of the US... Of course by 1995 they started looking back more investments in foreign markets. All it took was some investment bankers whispering into the CEO's ear that shareholders would love to see the company expand overseas.... So they did, even made some investments in Venezuela in the late 90's and have sense watched those assets vanish.... So don't underestimate the stupidity of corporate America. Political risk is one of the things they seem to underestimate the most.
drwadadli
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Minus the racist part, but they already tried that once in Manassas, Virginia a few years back.
Walt Disney1955
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Sorry guys, you can't have it in the northeast. I live near Toronto, our best park, Canada's Wonderland, is open from May to early October with the Halloween stuff going to the end of the month. But it isn't open every day except for the summer and parts of June. Why? We get snow up here. Ditto for Boston, or New York, or Philly or Chicago. It's too cold. Even Dollywood in Tennessee closes up three months a year. You need a place where it is open year round. Anaheim and Orlando can do this. I say if they ever do anything then add another park at WDW. Or just fill in more attractions in the ones we have. Heck, re-open River Country if they can. Three water parks beats two. Do anything you can to spread out the crowds.
BasiltheBatLord
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As much as I would love a Texas park, I'm pretty sure U.S. is never getting a third one.
networkpro
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Zimbabwe ? The new President President Emmerson Mnangagwa is pleading for the farmers to come back so they can feed themselves without importing food. Robert Mugabe really did that country in and it will take a generation at least to get back to being the bread basket of the region.
DC has been tried before, but once the real estate speculators and NIMBYs got wind of it viability declined to zero rapidly. I was living in Arlington, VA at the time this went down and it wasnt pretty. Disney's America was a poor concept at best less than five miles from the Bull Run battlefield, it was suppose to be another implementation of "Edutainment" but this time with a historical focus.