If you could ask Bob Iger one question...

bjlc57

bjlc57

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Goofyernmost said:
Just because Walt built a very simple park in a year doesn't mean that the same thing applies today. None of the high tech things existed when it first opened. The AA's that were used were built along with the park which was basic and were either water rides (Jungle Cruise) (Rivers of America) or simple Stage Coach ideas found in Frontierland, or spinner rides like Dumbo or The Rockets or Movies, etc. Nothing even close to the technology that is demanded today. Epcot was built shortly after Walt's death and it took 3 years, not counting planning to build it. All being built at the same time. 3 years. I just don't understand how anyone can think that they can put up quality attractions on swamp land in some unrealistic time frame.

There really weren't many things there in the opening that weren't basic carnival based things.
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The bottom line is this.. if you want to spend the money.. you can get any thing you want in short amount of time.. this is and has been about spending only "so much" per fiscal year.. and not moving at "DIsney Speed.." .. this is bean counter speed.. You didn't see Universal moving this slowly.. Sorry but I don't agree with your major drink the kool aid defense of Iger.. Disney has the money.. when you put more people to work, it gets done much faster. If you watched the fantasy land photos.. you see times they were working and other times.. nothing much was happening and a skeleton crew was " working'.. the same with Avatar.. they slowed working times to move into the next pay period.
Kool aid or not.. the proof is in the photos..
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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bjlc57 said:
The bottom line is this.. if you want to spend the money.. you can get any thing you want in short amount of time..
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So, for the record, are you advocating that Disney engage in some sort of bribery to skirt past various local, state, and federal regulations, possibly endangering people and property, just so YOU can get a theme park ride quicker?
 
rreading

rreading

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bjlc57 said:
The bottom line is this.. if you want to spend the money.. you can get any thing you want in short amount of time.. this is and has been about spending only "so much" per fiscal year.. and not moving at "DIsney Speed.." .. this is bean counter speed.. You didn't see Universal moving this slowly.. Sorry but I don't agree with your major drink the kool aid defense of Iger.. Disney has the money.. when you put more people to work, it gets done much faster. If you watched the fantasy land photos.. you see times they were working and other times.. nothing much was happening and a skeleton crew was " working'.. the same with Avatar.. they slowed working times to move into the next pay period.
Kool aid or not.. the proof is in the photos..
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We are in an age of immediate gratification. We want it now! But then what? Another new thing? Then another?

I would rather them do the job well, with their eye on the future (of the attraction lasting 30 years) than do it poorly and quickly. I look at the job they did on Pirates - and the detailing of 7DMT (while clearly a lesser experience) is just as beautifully executed (while lacking Pirate's originality and amazing music). And while the addition of rides was unimpressive, the atmosphere of New Fantasyland is excellent. Harambe's expansion - similarly well done.

Quality wins over quantity
 
Matt_Black

Matt_Black

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rreading said:
We are in an age of immediate gratification. We want it now! But then what? Another new thing? Then another?

I would rather them do the job well, with their eye on the future (of the attraction lasting 30 years) than do it poorly and quickly. I look at the job they did on Pirates - and the detailing of 7DMT (while clearly a lesser experience) is just as beautifully executed (while lacking Pirate's originality and amazing music). And while the addition of rides was unimpressive, the atmosphere of New Fantasyland is excellent. Harambe's expansion - similarly well done.

Quality wins over quantity
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Let's not forget that Disney Springs looks very nice too.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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bjlc57 said:
The bottom line is this.. if you want to spend the money.. you can get any thing you want in short amount of time.. this is and has been about spending only "so much" per fiscal year.. and not moving at "DIsney Speed.." .. this is bean counter speed.. You didn't see Universal moving this slowly.. Sorry but I don't agree with your major drink the kool aid defense of Iger.. Disney has the money.. when you put more people to work, it gets done much faster. If you watched the fantasy land photos.. you see times they were working and other times.. nothing much was happening and a skeleton crew was " working'.. the same with Avatar.. they slowed working times to move into the next pay period.
Kool aid or not.. the proof is in the photos..
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That applies to life in general. If I want to spend the money I can have a Mercedes. I don't want to spend the money for something that I can get for a smaller cost, any other wheeled transportation.

They have no need to rush anything, they have no need to spend the money just because you want something sooner. They do not want everything to just show up instantly or all at the same time. There is no profit to be made by spending more for the same thing. Even though Disney may, on paper, seem like they have the money I can assure you they, just like you, cannot throw it away just for some artificial time frame that is both unnecessary and a waste. So we can all agree that they may (or may not) have the cash or credit line to do things quicker, however, they look at this a whole lot differently they we do, so it just isn't gonna happen. How about trying to be at least a little happy that they are doing anything at all, much less at warp speed. They went a long time just sitting on their hands. At least now we are starting to see some movement. The speed of it is not really all that important.
 
bjlc57

bjlc57

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Matt_Black said:
So, for the record, are you advocating that Disney engage in some sort of bribery to skirt past various local, state, and federal regulations, possibly endangering people and property, just so YOU can get a theme park ride quicker?
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Please.. all .. All regulations and permits MUST BE FILED AND APPROVED before you break ground.. all of them.. so please.. come up with a less.. Kool aid filled response because its dripping from my cpu.. this is an I will believe anything Disney tells me.. there was a road in front of the main area in my town.. for what ever reason it took them Two years , two complete years to dig up and black top just over a mile.. consequently , in the same state.. on the interstate.. they dug up and black topped 40 plus miles in three months, and once that area was prepared.. was blacktopping two plus miles per day..in the mean time.. all our local businesses suffered because of spending over two different bienniums. and the winter in between.. after the earthquake the interstate in California was fixed in a mile a night.. .. not per day.. per night.. its how you want to spend the hoards of money Disney is sitting on..
 
SorcererMC

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nbar said:
I did some searching and didn't find much. So I am sorry if this has been asked before.

If you could ask Bob anything what would it be and why?
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That depends - does he have to give an honest answer or the usual CEO spin? (Not implying he sits on a throne of lies, just saying there is an art to the statements that CEOs make due to Wall St response).
If he had to be honest, I wouldn't know where to start (strategy, labor practices, crisis mgmt., marketing, investment/expansion). But I'd probably ask if a day doesn't go by where he is thinking about his next purchase? ....and then have him explain how it would lead to long-term growth, and benefit the company and its stakeholders (and I count the consumer base as stakeholders).
 
rreading

rreading

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I would ask him how the plans for his succession are coming along. All of us on this website love Disney, But there are vastly differing opinions on whether the parks are getting better or worse, and whether the parks have benefitted under his leadership. I honestly think that history will show that he has turned TWDC into one of the defining American companies; only five years ago, their stock value was less than 30 and now it's beyond 90 and its earnings support that stock price. Who cares about stock prices? It means that the company is doing good business and is seriously solvent and can throw a couple of billions at redesigning DCA if needed or at FP+ if desired. Both of those things have been great investments; now it's on to figuring out how to move forward with DHS and Epcot. But I don't want them to rush the decisions and get things wrong...so I'm willing to be patient
 
SorcererMC

SorcererMC

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rreading said:
I honestly think that history will show that he has turned TWDC into one of the defining American companies; only five years ago, their stock value was less than 30 and now it's beyond 90 and its earnings support that stock price.
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I think one of the reasons that he has referred to Disney as a 'tech company' now is because he wants to solidify that 'defining American company' title, and tech companies have risen to the top. Not to mention justifying MM+ investment and other various tech innovation. (If it were 30 years ago, he would be saying that Disney 'manufactures' media/entertainment.) Re: stock price, I think that there is a symbiotic relationship between the current Wall St/econ climate and TWDC ability to consistently deliver on their earnings reports. Iger as CEO is responsible for some of that; I question whether or not his successor will be able to do the same. I would expect the succession question to be at the top of the list to ask Iger; business analysts have been asking publicly and on earnings calls.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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SorcererMC said:
I think one of the reasons that he has referred to Disney as a 'tech company' now is because he wants to solidify that 'defining American company' title, and tech companies have risen to the top. Not to mention justifying MM+ investment and other various tech innovation. (If it were 30 years ago, he would be saying that Disney 'manufactures' media/entertainment.) Re: stock price, I think that there is a symbiotic relationship between the current Wall St/econ climate and TWDC ability to consistently deliver on their earnings reports. Iger as CEO is responsible for some of that; I question whether or not his successor will be able to do the same. I would expect the succession question to be at the top of the list to ask Iger; business analysts have been asking publicly and on earnings calls.
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The mocking laughter coming from 'real' tech companies on hearing Disney call themselves a 'Tech Company' is deafening, This is a company who can't even keep their website up 24x7 which is an art mastered by most small companies regardless of their line of business and is doubly true for 'real' tech companies who spend much time and treasure ensuring their web presence stays online no matter what happens.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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rreading said:
I would ask him how the plans for his succession are coming along. All of us on this website love Disney, But there are vastly differing opinions on whether the parks are getting better or worse, and whether the parks have benefitted under his leadership. I honestly think that history will show that he has turned TWDC into one of the defining American companies; only five years ago, their stock value was less than 30 and now it's beyond 90 and its earnings support that stock price. Who cares about stock prices? It means that the company is doing good business and is seriously solvent and can throw a couple of billions at redesigning DCA if needed or at FP+ if desired. Both of those things have been great investments; now it's on to figuring out how to move forward with DHS and Epcot. But I don't want them to rush the decisions and get things wrong...so I'm willing to be patient
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Put down the bong and step away from the kool aid.
 
rreading

rreading

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ford91exploder said:
Put down the bong and step away from the kool aid.
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I know, I know; you're convinced that all will go down in flames. I've thought about it, and I don't see it.

We still love going and I've increased my stock investment.

One thing that this presidential election has made crystal clear, is that we all see things how we want to see them. Absurdly so.

But even still, please keep pointing out the flaws and concerns; I want to hear them and I continually evaluate them as to whether they affect out guest experience. Recently, they did not. Your mileage may vary
 

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