If they built another Disney Theme Park in the US, where would it be?

darthspielberg

Well-Known Member
No they haven't run out of room in Flordia (but they have sold land off that they don't intend to use)

It's just super expensive to build a new theme park, and if it eats into the other parks, TDO won't do it.
 
Last timne I was in Texas(ten years ago), they would not let anyone from out of state purchase alcohol. A TLCB decision. Who in their right mind would visit Texas with stupid laws like that in place? I gave up on Texas that very trip and haven't thought about it since.
 

Clever Name

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They won’t build another theme park in the USA until they shut down Disneyland and the associated parking lot park. They’ll most likely close Disneyland about 2030 and build a new park in Arizona using land under contract from one or more of the Indian Reservations. The Navajo, Tohono O’odham, San Carlos and Fort Apache Indian Reservations have all expressed interest in such a project. It would be far better than building more casinos on Indian land. It’s just a matter of working out the details and there’s still plenty of time before construction begins. :wave:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Last timne I was in Texas(ten years ago), they would not let anyone from out of state purchase alcohol. A TLCB decision. Who in their right mind would visit Texas with stupid laws like that in place? I gave up on Texas that very trip and haven't thought about it since.

Huh?? That makes no sense...perhaps you were trying to write a check and they wouldn't accept out of state checks. :shrug:


I've been to Texas and don't have a Texas DL and have purchased alcohol. :lookaroun
 

cheezbat

Well-Known Member
Yeah I really don't see another RESORT being built anywhere in the US. But if we're talking parks, I think the best bet would be a third park in Anaheim just a ways from Disneyland and California Adventure. If not there, obviously gate #5 at WDW.

(I'd hope for a fifth gate at WDW) :king:
 

The Mouse

Member
Last timne I was in Texas(ten years ago), they would not let anyone from out of state purchase alcohol. A TLCB decision. Who in their right mind would visit Texas with stupid laws like that in place? I gave up on Texas that very trip and haven't thought about it since.
yea, I was not of age 10 years ago but currently that is incredibly untrue. There used to be a strong club membership to purchase drinks at a dinning locations but for the most part that is gone and to my knowledge was never a state law.
 

Susan Savia

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They were really close to Disney's America in Manassas, VA back in the mid-late 1990s. So I'll put that in as the most likely area of the US to get another Disney park/resort.

But in reality, I think the chances of a park in the US beyond what we have now are very low. Perhaps more Aulani-type things, but Disney's other "regional entertainment" attempts have failed -- Disneyquest, ESPNZone.

We live about an hour from Manassas, VA and got very excited when there was talk of a park there. I think it was scrapped because of it being on or near historic land and the people that lived close to it didn't want all the traffic.
 

Jimmy Thick

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If it was possible I would choose a Disney themed waterpark in the Wisconsin Dells. The Wilderness resort here is very Disney "like", but still not Disney.


Jimmy Thick- I wouldn't trade one stupid decision...for another 5 years of life...
 
yea, I was not of age 10 years ago but currently that is incredibly untrue. There used to be a strong club membership to purchase drinks at a dinning locations but for the most part that is gone and to my knowledge was never a state law.

Sorry to burst your Texas bubble but it was true when I visited. I worked for TGI Friday's with the corporate office based in Texas. I was denied take out service at a local beer store and denied service in a TGI Fridays
as were my friends. The head of Human Resources told us that the Texas Liquor Control Board had a law that did not allow people with out of state lincenses to purchase or consume alcohol in Texas. It may not be in effect anymore, but the damage was done. Texas is just a bit of a better location than Salt Lake City in my mind.
 

Lucky

Well-Known Member
We live about an hour from Manassas, VA and got very excited when there was talk of a park there. I think it was scrapped because of it being on or near historic land and the people that lived close to it didn't want all the traffic.
And they ended up with all of the traffic and paving over historic sites anyway. But instead of a Disney park they built endless suburbs and a bunch of Appleby's and Best Buys.

They got the worst of both worlds.
 

Epcotdad

Member
As a 'what-if' scenario only:

Disney should consider looking into the Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg area of East Tennessee. This would be a practical move for several reasons:

1. We don't know what's going to happen with gas prices over the next years/decades to come. The Gat/PF area is only a one day drive from the majority of U.S. residents, and only a few hours from hot population cities such as Atlanta, Nashville, Cincinnati, Charlotte...etc. When gas prices & air fares hit the roof, this area still reels in tourists due to being so easily accessable to the majority of U.S. population. Whereas Orlando & Anaheim sit in far corners of the country forcing out the option of being the pracitcal family road trip.

2. The PF/Gat area is already a thriving, family-oriented area which reels in the types of crowds that would appreciate the Disney theme-parks. Instead of "Build it, & they will come" it is "They're already coming..now build it."

3. Do NOT underestimate Dolly. Many people who have never been to Dollywood would not consider it up to par with the "Big 3" in the theme-park world (Disney, Universal, Busch). However, Dollywood is very much up to that level, (clean, friendly staff, great theming) and head & shoulders above what you would find at a Six Flags, Cedar Fair, or other regional park chain. If Dollywood & Disney were going head-to-head in this area like Disney & Universal are in Orlando, throw in the fact that we are closer to home for most Americans...this area would soon become the new theme-park Mecca for travelers.

Of course, not having an international airport and year-round warm weather would be the hold-backs. But this is just a fantasy idea anyway.

In reality, I only see Disney strengthening DLR & WDW over the years/decades to come. A 5th gate at WDW? Highly unlikely, but not completely ruled out. New theme-park property in another U.S. city? Not going to happen; bank on it.

Dont agree with Disney being built there, but agree with you on how great Dollywood is. I am a season pass holder and Gat/PF is my 2nd fav place to go on vacation every year. Go VOLS
 

Epcotdad

Member
I would love to see more regional Disney entertainment, other than parks. I wish they would build Disney Parks Authentic stores instead of the Disney stores they have. They could do so much more with the stores like interactive games, real Disney products, and even some kind of counter service foods that is popular at the parks. This could satisfy the people in-between their trips.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
Anaheim, California, most likely. I seriously can't see Disney building a new resort in the United States, as it would probably pull attendance away from Disneyland and Walt Disney World. Disneyland has two parks, which is good, but it might appear too small to be a tourism destination, so I see a new park going there before WDW. And that's before taking into account that WDW needs to expand the existing parks before building a new one, and even then, the Orlando area might be too saturated with parks to build another park. It's possible that a fifth gate at WDW would cannibalize the other four parks.

After Shanghai, I could see Brazil as the next location for a Disney resort. Not sure where in Brazil, but by the time they are able to make another resort addition, Brazil will probably be a great location economically for a new park.

Good point abotu Anaheim, as they have announced (and then removed all reference to) intentions to build a third park at some point in the future, presumably on the Fusihighe (I have no clue if I spelled that right) strawberry fields.

And as for Brazil, I would suggest that Disney building a park in Brazil might wind up leading to a HUGE improvement to guest satisfaction at WDW.

We live about an hour from Manassas, VA and got very excited when there was talk of a park there. I think it was scrapped because of it being on or near historic land and the people that lived close to it didn't want all the traffic.

True that people didn't want the traffic, and it would have been near historic land. Disney scrapped the project just after it had WON a key decision in some litigation trying to stop the develoment because it was so close to the battlefield. While they never really said why, my guess is that they just decided the economics wouldn't work.
 

Unomas

Well-Known Member
Last timne I was in Texas(ten years ago), they would not let anyone from out of state purchase alcohol. A TLCB decision. Who in their right mind would visit Texas with stupid laws like that in place? I gave up on Texas that very trip and haven't thought about it since.

This is completely false. If you are visiting and want to buy drinks at a resort, bar, or whatever, you will have no problems being out of state. I think what you are talking about is taking these beverages across state lines. You might have a problem with that. But for vacationing...no.
 

Lucky

Well-Known Member
True that people didn't want the traffic, and it would have been near historic land. Disney scrapped the project just after it had WON a key decision in some litigation trying to stop the develoment because it was so close to the battlefield. While they never really said why, my guess is that they just decided the economics wouldn't work.

There was a lot of opposition, not only based on traffic and intrusion on historical sites. The Washington metro area has a lot of over-educated elitists who look down on Disney.

This excerpt from Wikipedia sums it up pretty well:

Controversy further arose as some claimed that Disney was participating in "corporate history" by selling knowledge of past events that would deliberately be skewed and toned down for entertainment and not historical accuracy. The site is now home to Dominion Valley Country Club, as well as numerous other business and housing developments, creating much of the congestion and environmental damage that anti-Disney activists fought against.
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
True that people didn't want the traffic, and it would have been near historic land. Disney scrapped the project just after it had WON a key decision in some litigation trying to stop the develoment because it was so close to the battlefield. While they never really said why, my guess is that they just decided the economics wouldn't work.

Disney would have been well-served to simply move a little to the northwest, on the opposite side of Dulles Airport, an area that was not developed at the time. They could have eliminated the sturm und drang over the Manassas Battlefields, and had a relatively pristine area to develop for themselves, not unlike Orlando.....
 

ariel90

Active Member
Texas would be great it has sunshine however the sunshine comes with one hitch that place has a heat problem worse than Florida during the summer. I have numerous friends from Texas (from many different parts) and they say its unbearable during the summer in the low 100's almost everyday. But I guess thats can be fixed by putting many attractions indoors with air conditioning. In the perfect world I would say but the park in Michigan we have nothing and the closest thing we have is Cedar Point. But I really think that disney should focus on the US parks it has already like MK really needs a new day time parade and firework show.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
There was a lot of opposition, not only based on traffic and intrusion on historical sites. The Washington metro area has a lot of over-educated elitists who look down on Disney.

This excerpt from Wikipedia sums it up pretty well:

Controversy further arose as some claimed that Disney was participating in "corporate history" by selling knowledge of past events that would deliberately be skewed and toned down for entertainment and not historical accuracy. The site is now home to Dominion Valley Country Club, as well as numerous other business and housing developments, creating much of the congestion and environmental damage that anti-Disney activists fought against.

True indeed. From what I gathered at the time, many of the leaders of the "Save the Battlefield" contingent, couldn't have cared less about the battlefield -- they were just looking for a way to keep Disney out.
I do suspect, though, that a Disney resort would have resulted in far more traffic then a country club and the other business that are there.

Disney would have been well-served to simply move a little to the northwest, on the opposite side of Dulles Airport, an area that was not developed at the time. They could have eliminated the sturm und drang over the Manassas Battlefields, and had a relatively pristine area to develop for themselves, not unlike Orlando.....

Which is one of the reasons why I believe that Disney actually abandoned the plans due to economics, not the battlefield stuff.
 

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