I saw a preview show of Monsters Inc...

[Shaman]

Well I'd rather have a seasonal Time Keeper than Laugh Floor.

To each his/her own.

The problem I see is that the attraction was designed in reverse order. The best attractions are conceived as a story first, then a ride system/technology is sought out to tell the story.
Laugh Floor looks to be a case of "We don't have a story, but we have this technology we'd like to use."

Perhaps you're right, Lee. But I think they could've built an attraction around a concept like this...I think they kinda limited themselves by picking Monsters Inc though...maybe they should've waited for Meet the Robinsons or maybe gone with something totally originial.

I still think the attraction will be decent when all is said an done...should give people something to do while they wait for their fast pass times for either SM or Buzz.

 

[CaptainMichael]

should give people something to do while they wait for their fast pass times for either SM or Buzz.

I've thought that was the purpose all along...I guess people wanted something more...:shrug:

 

[Buried20KLeague]

That's interesting because the last four shows I atteneded everyone was having a great time, and everyone in the theatre gave it a four (very good) or five (great) when asked about what you think of the show. Only one person gave it a one (poor) rating in the 400-some total of people inside. So either you got a bad crowd and show, or you misjudged the thoughts of the 399 people around you. But after seeing the show about five times, I think that the show is on track to be a hit. And after all, the show is changing by the hour, so it's hard to say that you know that the show is a bomb. Besides, if the show you saw really was as awful as you say, they took you remarks, and that means? The show can only get better.

Have you ever had anything negative to say about anything Disney has come up with??

You're paddling upstream here. It's common knowledge and a fact that this attraction got pushed WAYYY back... We've seen imagineers asking for public opinion on this thing like nothing ever before... It hasn't had the published AP and DVC previews it was supposed to have, and there's still not a date known on the horizon when the doors will officially be open. We all know they're not having trouble with the technology that's causing the date to be pushed back... It's the fact that it's obviously not getting NEARLY the response they were looking for because overall the product isn't as good as what they need it to be. Yet you say it's "on track to be a hit". :brick:

I'll agree with you that sometimes people on here can be less than objective about things Disney comes up with, finding fault with most things they develop. But I tend to think there are plenty of people on the other end of the spectrum that are apologists and will give Disney more credit than they deserve at times as well.

Disney could put a glass of milk on a table in the hub, and some people would say it was the "MOST MAGICAL GLASS OF MILK THEY'VE EVER SEEN!!!!" and "GREAT JOB IMAGINEERS!!!!"

The faults this attraction has are well-documented. The people bashing it are pointing to hard facts behind their reasons. And WDI apparently agrees. If you were in a showing with 399 of 400 that thought it was great, I think we need to have Disney investigated for pumping some sort of laughing gas into the theatre during that showing. :lol:

 

[disneyphilip]

WOW is that part of the park cursed now? first they ruin a PERECT show (AE) & replace it with a realllllly bad copy tamed down to the point no one likes (stich). i did see it once & wow.....horrible.

Watch it! Most people, including yours truly, love Stitch and SGE. It's just as perfectly done as AE, IMO.

People like you should know darn well by now that you're in the minority, you know.

I also still stand by CThaddeus' opinion that AE did not belong in the MK, due to its EXTREMELY intense nature.

 

[EpcotServo]

Have you ever had anything negative to say about anything Disney has come up with??

You're paddling upstream here. It's common knowledge and a fact that this attraction got pushed WAYYY back... We've seen imagineers asking for public opinion on this thing like nothing ever before... It hasn't had the published AP and DVC previews it was supposed to have, and there's still not a date known on the horizon when the doors will officially be open. We all know they're not having trouble with the technology that's causing the date to be pushed back... It's the fact that it's obviously not getting NEARLY the response they were looking for because overall the product isn't as good as what they need it to be. Yet you say it's "on track to be a hit". :brick:

I'll agree with you that sometimes people on here can be less than objective about things Disney comes up with, finding fault with most things they develop. But I tend to think there are plenty of people on the other end of the spectrum that are apologists and will give Disney more credit than they deserve at times as well.

Disney could put a glass of milk on a table in the hub, and some people would say it was the "MOST MAGICAL GLASS OF MILK THEY'VE EVER SEEN!!!!" and "GREAT JOB IMAGINEERS!!!!"

The faults this attraction has are well-documented. The people bashing it are pointing to hard facts behind their reasons. And WDI apparently agrees. If you were in a showing with 399 of 400 that thought it was great, I think we need to have Disney investigated for pumping some sort of laughing gas into the theatre during that showing. :lol:

WOW! You're right! Me having actully SEEN the crowd reactions in FIVE diffrent showings within the LAST few weeks is not as good as you guessing from home at your computer I'M sooo sorry! You don't know me at all do you? I hate the Year of a millon dreams, I hate how Disney is run these days, and anyone who has watched TV with me KNOWS that I complain about everything! I hated Journey Into Your Imagination. I hated the Goosebumps Horror maze. I really hated Cinderellabration. I hate that stupid new Pirates cart at Epcot. I hated that bus that took Mickey and the gang around Epcot because it ruined the theming of World Showcase and Future World. I hate all forms of High School Musical.And I really loved Timekeeper. One of my favorite shows of all time! But since you don't know me, you must be right.
Listen, I didn't think I was going to like the show. I didn't really care for it the first time I saw it. But after seeing the changes I've seen, and how the crowds reaction has changed, by March they should have a great little show in there. But your "well-documented" rumors all point to something else. But since you haven't seen it in the last week more than once. (Or as I think, you've never seen it. But I'll take the higher dirt road and say you have.) You can clearly KNOW that it's going to be awful even though it's changing by the hour. Oh, yea... and I'd like to see those "hard facts" you were talking about because remember kids, laughter and enjoyment of a show are "hard facts" not opinons.
:lol:

(Oh, and not to be mean, but just to shed some light on this fact, the Philharmagic team is pretty much the same team who worked on SGE.)

 

[CaptainMichael]

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=145581

 

[Buried20KLeague]

WOW! You're right! Me having actully SEEN the crowd reactions in FIVE diffrent showings within the LAST few weeks is not as good as you guessing from home at your computer I'M sooo sorry! You don't know me at all do you? I hate the Year of a millon dreams, I hate how Disney is run these days, and anyone who has watched TV with me KNOWS that I complain about everything! I hated Journey Into Your Imagination. I hated the Goosebumps Horror maze. I really hated Cinderellabration. I hate that stupid new Pirates cart at Epcot. I hated that bus that took Mickey and the gang around Epcot because it ruined the theming of World Showcase and Future World. I hate all forms of High School Musical.And I really loved Timekeeper. One of my favorite shows of all time! But since you don't know me, you must be right.
Listen, I didn't think I was going to like the show. I didn't really care for it the first time I saw it. But after seeing the changes I've seen, and how the crowds reaction has changed, by March they should have a great little show in there. But your "well-documented" rumors all point to something else. But since you haven't seen it in the last week more than once. (Or as I think, you've never seen it. But I'll take the higher dirt road and say you have.) You can clearly KNOW that it's going to be awful even though it's changing by the hour. Oh, yea... and I'd like to see those "hard facts" you were talking about because remember kids, laughter and enjoyment of a show are "hard facts" not opinons.
:lol:

(Oh, and not to be mean, but just to shed some light on this fact, the Philharmagic team is pretty much the same team who worked on SGE.)

You're right, I haven't seen it live. Never said I have. I've seen the videos, but know that that's not enough to base an opinion on. And you'll notice that I didn't share my opinion on an attraction I haven't seen.

What I pointed to are the vast majority of reviews of people that HAVE seen it, and their poor opinions of the attraction. Those weren't my opinions, but their opinions make logical sense to me because they have reason backing them (lack of story, que detail, cohesiveness, how funny it is, etc). These are things that we expect a certain level of as Disney fans. And when you combine the overall poor reviews from people here with the hard facts that this thing is going to open at least 2 1/2 months late because they can't get it right... That's something solid. That's not a "well-documented rumor" as you say. That's fact. I don't put stock in most rumors... Unless it comes out of Lee or Corrus's mouth.

My criticism was that you were saying it was going to be a "hit" (your word, not mine), when its obvious they're struggling to put even just an acceptable product in front of people. No need to make it personal or get defensive. Your wording just seemed awfully strong to me considering all the turmoil this attraction is going through just to try to open to the public. You liked it, and that's good for you. And maybe I'll like it once I see it (hopefully soon). But... A "hit" it ain't. And probably never will be, just because of the inherant issues the attraction will have that maybe weren't expected in planning.

 

[nibblesandbits]

I've thought that was the purpose all along...I guess people wanted something more...:shrug:

Great use of the new smiley! :lol:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showthread.php?t=145581

Exactly...here...today is someone who actually enjoyed this show. I think this is a case of to each his own. Sure, it might not have been what Disney had hoped for orginally, but they clearly are working on it to make it better. And I still think people unfairly judge things that Disney has been building recently. Even if it wasn't that great before, that doesn't mean that Disney hasn't been working hard to get it so that it is a quality C or D ticket ride. As stated so clearly before, not everything Disney builds is intended to be an E ticket...this seems like it fits in the category of not ever meant to be E ticket...so it still serves it's purpose.

 

[nibblesandbits]

Don't listen to someone's opinion on a DISNEY WORLD FORUM (of all places; where a bunch of geeks who scrutinize everything 24/7) and wait and see the show for yourself.

Best quote for the day...and if I had room in my signature....I'd use it!

 

[imagineer boy]

The problem I see is that the attraction was designed in reverse order. The best attractions are conceived as a story first, then a ride system/technology is sought out to tell the story.
Laugh Floor looks to be a case of "We don't have a story, but we have this technology we'd like to use."

Exactly. Almost all attractions that have followed this logic have failed miserably. Like SGE, they used the same theater and concept of an alien in a glass tube, and tried to build a story around it but the story came out lousy and the attraction as a whole failed miserably.

 

[EpcotServo]

My criticism was that you were saying it was going to be a "hit" (your word, not mine), when its obvious they're struggling to put even just an acceptable product in front of people. No need to make it personal or get defensive. Your wording just seemed awfully strong to me considering all the turmoil this attraction is going through just to try to open to the public. You liked it, and that's good for you. And maybe I'll like it once I see it (hopefully soon). But... A "hit" it ain't. And probably never will be, just because of the inherant issues the attraction will have that maybe weren't expected in planning.

I didn't say that it was without a doubt it was going to be a hit. I said that it was on track to be a hit. That means that based on all of the changes that I've seen (and how the crowd reacts to it) means that everything WDI is doing is only making the show better. If they stay on track, it'll be a very popular attraction. Now if it was still the show I say a few weeks ago, I'd agree with you. Now on the subject of "nobody cares for the non-movie monsters in the show, I also disagree. I was thinking about that at first, but all doubts went away when I was watching the show and a little kid yelled "WATCH OUT!" when Buddy was about to get hit by the board.
:lol: While I think it may apply to adults, I think kids can care about the monsters they see in the show.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Great use of the new smiley! :lol:

*bows*

 

[CThaddeus]

Exactly. Almost all attractions that have followed this logic have failed miserably. Like SGE, they used the same theater and concept of an alien in a glass tube, and tried to build a story around it but the story came out lousy and the attraction as a whole failed miserably.

Your opinion. Definitely not mine. I think it improved immeasurably.

 

[jaredliu]

The problem I see is that the attraction was designed in reverse order. The best attractions are conceived as a story first, then a ride system/technology is sought out to tell the story.
Laugh Floor looks to be a case of "We don't have a story, but we have this technology we'd like to use."

Thanks Lee you are probably the only one here who work for WDW but still being hoest.

 

[imagineer boy]

Your opinion. Definitely not mine. I think it improved immeasurably.

In your oppinion, yes, but definately not with general fan and public reaction.

 

[CThaddeus]

In your oppinion, yes, but definately not with general fan and public reaction.

I think you may be overstating the case. While many fanboys hate Stitch, it's often more out of anger because they liked Alien Encounter. They try to find flaws with it to prove their point, when just as many flaws can be found with their beloved Alien Encounter. As for public reaction, if the six times I've been on it are any indication, then it apears to be an enjoyable attraction. The people who experienced it with me laughed all the way through, didn't act as if they'd been assaulted when the chili dog smell effect occured (the most frequent complaint on these boards), and came out talking about how cool it was. I even recall one child who, while at Animal Kingdom, was asked what his favorite attraction was so far. I think you can guess what his answer was - Stitch's Great Escape. And he couldn't wait to go back to the Magic Kingdom to do it again. I did not hear one person walk out of Stitch and say it was stupid, or that Alien Encounter was better. Not one. And I really listened for it both times I went two months ago.
Also the lines I've seen for Stitch aren't any shorter than they were for Alien Encounter. Even during the slow season the shows I attended were more than 3/4 full. I don't think I can say that for the times I saw Alien Encounter.
You're welcome to your opinion, and everyone on this board is welcome to agree with you. But I really think most don't give this attraction enough credit. Of course, I wasn't ga-ga for Mickey's Philharmagic, and everyone tells me they thought it was the best 3-D film at Disney World. So what do I know?

 

[EpcotServo]

I think you may be overstating the case. While many fanboys hate Stitch, it's often more out of anger because they liked Alien Encounter. They try to find flaws with it to prove their point, when just as many flaws can be found with their beloved Alien Encounter. As for public reaction, if the six times I've been on it are any indication, then it apears to be an enjoyable attraction. The people who experienced it with me laughed all the way through, didn't act as if they'd been assaulted when the chili dog smell effect occured (the most frequent complaint on these boards), and came out talking about how cool it was. I even recall one child who, while at Animal Kingdom, was asked what his favorite attraction was so far. I think you can guess what his answer was - Stitch's Great Escape. And he couldn't wait to go back to the Magic Kingdom to do it again. I did not hear one person walk out of Stitch and say it was stupid, or that Alien Encounter was better. Not one. And I really listened for it both times I went two months ago.
Also the lines I've seen for Stitch aren't any shorter than they were for Alien Encounter. Even during the slow season the shows I attended were more than 3/4 full. I don't think I can say that for the times I saw Alien Encounter.
You're welcome to your opinion, and everyone on this board is welcome to agree with you. But I really think most don't give this attraction enough credit. Of course, I wasn't ga-ga for Mickey's Philharmagic, and everyone tells me they thought it was the best 3-D film at Disney World. So what do I know?

Well said. All the fans who are always Stitch bashing never bother to look for the detail that they claim isn't there. (Like the fact that the exit doors say "Mickey" on one and "Mouse" on the other one in the alien language. Or that in the Pre-show room one of the rules for guards is "No Cell-Phones while your on duty".) And i'm sad that it may also happen to The Laugh Floor Comedy Club. There's so many great details in the waiting area! Like the Trash compactor from the movie, or how the trash cans say "Monsters Inc., We refuse no refuse!" And I was laughing at loud looking at the "Same-old Raccon" candy bar in the vending machine!
:lol:

 

[imagineer boy]

I think you may be overstating the case. While many fanboys hate Stitch, it's often more out of anger because they liked Alien Encounter. They try to find flaws with it to prove their point, when just as many flaws can be found with their beloved Alien Encounter. As for public reaction, if the six times I've been on it are any indication, then it apears to be an enjoyable attraction. The people who experienced it with me laughed all the way through, didn't act as if they'd been assaulted when the chili dog smell effect occured (the most frequent complaint on these boards), and came out talking about how cool it was. I even recall one child who, while at Animal Kingdom, was asked what his favorite attraction was so far. I think you can guess what his answer was - Stitch's Great Escape. And he couldn't wait to go back to the Magic Kingdom to do it again. I did not hear one person walk out of Stitch and say it was stupid, or that Alien Encounter was better. Not one. And I really listened for it both times I went two months ago.
Also the lines I've seen for Stitch aren't any shorter than they were for Alien Encounter. Even during the slow season the shows I attended were more than 3/4 full. I don't think I can say that for the times I saw Alien Encounter.
You're welcome to your opinion, and everyone on this board is welcome to agree with you. But I really think most don't give this attraction enough credit. Of course, I wasn't ga-ga for Mickey's Philharmagic, and everyone tells me they thought it was the best 3-D film at Disney World. So what do I know?

Well you can't judge over all public reaction just because of a couple of viewings for yourself or what a couple of your friends said. And I can assure you that negative reaction was biased because people wanting alien encounter back. I was crushed when they took out alien encounter, yes, but I really tried to go into Stitch with an open mind and I wasn't trying to find any flaws, but some of them were just so obvious and out there that you can't ignore them. From the poor story, to the cheap gags.

 

[Rockin Roller]

u just dont want to open something up and see no one walk into it. i saay dont open it and build something creative and new not dealing with any disney movies something fresh and new