HOW WILL UNIVERSAL'S EPIC UNIVERSE AFFECT WALT DISNEY WORLD?

How do you think it will affect Disney World?

  • Not at All

    Votes: 8 6.3%

  • It will only affect ithem a little

    Votes: 36 28.6%

  • It will affect them for a limited time(1st year)

    Votes: 28 22.2%

  • It will make Disney World more manageable for guests

    Votes: 36 28.6%

  • Disney World is doomed!(if they don't announce something soon)

    Votes: 18 14.3%
  • Total voters
    126
"El Gran Magnifico"

"El Gran Magnifico"

There are some who call me…Tim
Premium Member
There is one thing I am really, really, looking forward to at EPIC. That is Dark Universe/Monsters Land. Been a while since I was that pumped up for a "new" Disney opening. SWGE was the last but the more the news leaked out about it the less excited I got.

Don't get me wrong. SWGE is a nice land. Theming is good. I just have no attachment to it due to the decisions Disney made with it. I don't think that will be the case with Dark Universe. I wouldn't doubt that it will be the first land to expand at EPIC. Just so, so much you can do with it.
 
Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
K&KDizFreaks said:
Hate to break it to everyone. Rat, mickeys railway, midway mania, and both starwars rides are all sceen based. As are almost every new ride in the last 15 years for both WDW and UO. Especially since most of the physical effects on Rise rarely work. Not much difference between Tranformers and Rise in its current state.
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Rise of the Resistance is not screen based.
 
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K&KDizFreaks

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it is a good mix of static props, projection mapping and screens. The fact that the guns don’t move anymore, Kylo rarely works, and other major effects down, turns this ride into a screen based ride. Next time you ride it, take note. basically the SW penguin ride mixed with star tours mixed with transformers with some flashing lights and impressively used screens. It is nowhere near splash, pirates, mansion, SSE at their peak. (No screens in those four).

***Opinion*** we can all have our own... not right or wrong…. Not a top 10 ride in Orlando. If I could ride any 10 rides in Orlando in one day, no lines, no geographic barriers, no time barriers. Rise is not on the list, neither are most of the coasters.

It is a mediocre ride with everything down. When running perfectly, it is a very good 8/10 ride.

Wendy Pleakley said:
Rise of the Resistance is not screen based
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mikegdis

mikegdis

Member
Robbiem said:
Where it will hit Disney is in the wallet if Uni becomes more of a resort destination and people choose to stay there for a week and maybe visit magic kingdom for a day.

While Disney will be OK in the short term the longer term impacts I think will bite more. People will gradually have less affinity for the Mouse and some will start to develop more affinity for Uni. As the gap narrows and the resorts become more similar where you stay and spend will come down more to personal tastes a bit like picking what Vegas theme you prefer your hotel to be - Rome or Venice or Paris.

what will be fascinating will be how Disney responds- will they get into a war to outgun Uni with something exciting or will the accountaneers say less people needs no need to build more so cut investment and milk what’s there some more
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I did a bid for Epic before it was even know publicly and I have been very intrigued ever since. It's cool to see it come alive from the blue prints I used years ago to bid it and will be even cooler to go see it in person. That said, When it opens we are going to go and see how it feels. We like the Disney bubble and we want to see if UO can compete with the quality of service that Disney provides. We will probably get UOAP in '25 instead of Disney anyways. So if UO can provide that bubble we like, it imo will be tough to stay at Disney.
 
mikegdis

mikegdis

Member
El Gran Magnifico said:
There is one thing I am really, really, looking forward to at EPIC. That is Dark Universe/Monsters Land. Been a while since I was that pumped up for a "new" Disney opening. SWGE was the last but the more the news leaked out about it the less excited I got.

Don't get me wrong. SWGE is a nice land. Theming is good. I just have no attachment to it due to the decisions Disney made with it. I don't think that will be the case with Dark Universe. I wouldn't doubt that it will be the first land to expand at EPIC. Just so, so much you can do with it.
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I think people underestimate how good Epic is going to be and its potential to pull people away from the Mouse.
 
Walter Elias Disney

Walter Elias Disney

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Yes...there are numerous individuals quietly concerned with the pull of Epic Universe next summer. I agree theming at their two original parks is a bit lack luster other than Harry Potter...but this is going to be at a new heightened level of theming. We need to start stepping up with some NEW promotions for summer 2025 to bring in the loyal fan base. This is going to be a game changer folks....
 
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DVCRay

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UNCgolf said:
I don't think it will have a major effect. There are far too many people who only care about Disney and aren't really interested in Universal's offerings. Epic Universe isn't really a significant departure from what Universal offers at their existing parks (and I don't think it needed to be; they have their own fan base). It's not exactly the same, but it's still relatively heavy on thrill rides (and not solely coasters).
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100% correct. Universal IP sucks and always will
 
Cmdr_Crimson

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
It's a shame will never see an indoor year round park like Warner Bros World somewhere out in Florida and not particularly around the Orlando area but further out..We only get a taste of it with Wizarding World IP..
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
mikegdis said:
I think people underestimate how good Epic is going to be and its potential to pull people away from the Mouse.
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I agree! For too long now people have just assumed that Disney was the only place to go. That might be true for most of the long timers that went to WDW before there even was a Universal Florida. Early on the only other thing in the area was SeaWorld and we used to take a day of our trip and go there and/or the Kennedy Space Center. That said, I am one of those old timers that has always spent at least one day at Uni. My last trip to the area, I stayed at a Universal Hotel and spent two days at Universal and two days at Disney. I've always encouraged people to go to both because the were completely different experiences and in spite of what other say or imply it was equal or in some cases superior to WDW. If one doesn't go for at least one day of their trip they will really be missing out on a good experience and now with EPIC it is going to be even better.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
BTW, the questions asked to vote on really are not all asking the same question. It will affect Disney a lot more than you might think. I'm sure we all would like to see fewer people there, but, fact of life, people that have invested in Disney stock want to see it packed to the rafters and so would Disney Management.

Don't kid yourselves, Disney gives lip service to easing crowds, but in the reality they don't really do much to change that problem. With more empty attraction buildings in the parks the less things there are to do to keep the crowds spread out. You don't see them making any effort to find something to put in those buildings or to open other fast service food places (the largest and most able to provide seating for a lot of people is the one just to the right as you enter Tomorrowland). They aren't even trying. The more they make it look like it is packed the better they feel the public will want to be there. Yogi Barra was once asked about a restaurant by someone and he replied "No one goes there anymore because the place is to crowded". That sums up the attitude of Disney Mgmt.
 
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Ztonyg

New Member
Disstevefan1 said:
EPIC will be a HUGE success. And we can hope it will result in the WDW parks to be less mobbed.

It will not doom WDW, just like SeaWorld still exists despite what WDW and Universal does.

Even Blackfish couldn't kill SeaWorld thank goodness.
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Sea World has kind of morphed into Orlando's version of a Six Flags or Cedar Fair type of park. Same with Busch Gardens.

10 - 15 years ago I'd argue it was a step above a Six Flags or Cedar Fair. I'd imagine that Sea World probably does a higher percentage of local business (Florida residents) than Disney / Universal and also serves as a way that more budget conscious travelers who come to Florida can attend a theme park.

As far as Epic Universe I believe it will draw more people to Orlando but if they go to Disney it'll probably be more of a 1 day MK thing.

I'd imagine MK would get slightly busier and the other 3 parks slightly lighter (in terms of crowds) after Epic opens.

The bigger issue for Disney (and Universal) is a possible recession / temporary drawdown based upon changes in international relations. That drawdown could, temporarily, limit the total pool of travelers willing to spend money on a theme park vacation.
 
Disstevefan1

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Ztonyg said:
I'd imagine MK would get slightly busier and the other 3 parks slightly lighter (in terms of crowds) after Epic opens.

The bigger issue for Disney (and Universal) is a possible recession / temporary drawdown based upon changes in international relations. That drawdown could, temporarily, limit the total pool of travelers willing to spend money on a theme park vacation.
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I see what you mean about the bump in MK
There are folks who love WDW and hate Universal - those folks will go to MK as usual.
There are folks who love WDW but want to experience EPIC, they will take their one Disney day and go to MK
There are folks who come to go to EPIC and while they are there, go one day to MK

Recession only exists for those without money and the only folks who go WDW/EPIC have money.
As for the international relations, for the folks with money, their kids don't give a cr@p about international relations - THEY WANT TO GO TO EPIC!!!!.... And while they are there, stop into the MK ;)
 
MagicRat

MagicRat

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We bought Universal AP’s and have gone twice, I have fine with the expense but want the day back from my trip. The place is small, it lacks pathways besides the New York area and most of the rides are screen based. The only things good from the park is Earl and the Jurassic Park area. HP is good as well but you are safer in the middle of Fantasy Land from rats climbing over you (people).

UO is better than six flags but I would rather spend a random week day in October at the Hollywood park than waste a Orlando trip.
 
Giss Neric

Giss Neric

Well-Known Member
I just noticed that on social media, the theme park grifters who are mostly anti-Disney but keeps making articles and videos about them are praying for Disney's downfall by rooting for Universal in any way, shape or form. What's funny is whenever there are Universal-related posts, instead of being excited or praising them, they choose instead to talk trash about Disney. They are probably salivating about Epic attendance numbers when it opens.
 

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