How to Prevent the End of Disneyland (within reason)

[Disney Irish]

Cheapness can be scaled up or down. Disney has become the equivalent of McDonalds. Their animation and their ride designs used to be gourmet meals. Now they are no better than badly run fast food joints but at the gourmet price.

I disagree, cost cutting and "cheapness" aside. As I was talking about the most minimal cheap gimmick they can do to boost attendance, like bring back MSEP. Also we're talking about Parks not the rest of the company, so to me animation is not part of this discussion.

Six Flags is more like McDonald's as you go to any of their parks and get the same basic experience with the same basic ride offering. And they honestly don't really try to hide that fact.

With Disney Parks at least there is still differentiation between them, even if there are a few clones. And while there have been attempts to make a singular Parks experience, especially in the domestic parks, it hasn't worked. DLR is still run differently than WDW.

So if you're going to compare Disney Parks to a fast food place at least put them in a upper tier of the fast food joints.

 

[Consumer]

Everybody knows Disneyland is McDonald's, Wendy's is LEGOLand, Carl's Jr. is Universal Studios, Burger King is Six Flags, and Jack in the Box is SeaWorld.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Having no nostalgia for Epcot, I can comfortably say Universe of Energy sucked and so does Guardians.

Universe of Energy was good if you needed an attraction that involved 45 minutes of air conditioning that you didn't need to pay any attention to other than the part with dinosaurs.

But I don't get the impression that even the original incarnation of the attraction was ever truly beloved. It was all about the dinos from minute one, or so it seems to me.

Guardians I'm sure will be fun, but doesn't fit the park and I'm sure I'll get to ride it like three times ever because of how insane WDW waits are, particularly for anything remotely new.

 

[Miru]

Get the National Park Service to step in and remove the weight off of the company’s shoulders. Maybe get the Disney family in the mix too. As a National Park, the attractions will be kept relatively as-is, and it would also now rely on donations in addition to any sort of admission fee (preferably the Classic ticket system), with these donations potentially being “kickstarters” to restore and rebuild old attractions.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Get the National Park Service to step in and remove the weight off of the company’s shoulders. Maybe get the Disney family in the mix too. As a National Park, the attractions will be kept relatively as-is, and it would also now rely on donations in addition to any sort of admission fee (preferably the Classic ticket system), with these donations potentially being “kickstarters” to restore and rebuild old attractions.

There is a 0% chance that the NPS or the Disney family will ever get involved with the Disney parks.

The parks would be more likely to close altogether.

 

[Miru]

I'd very much like to make the argument that due to the frequent rethemes and changes of the last 10 years- and the huge decline in quality- today's generation will not have the same nostalgia for the new stuff that the people who grew up in the '50s-80s did.

Even the ones from the 90s-early 2010s as well. There was also plenty of stuff from back then that people have no nostalgia for, or at least only ironic nostalgia, like Superstar Limo. WEB SLINGERS may end up with ironic nostalgia, for one.

 

[Consumer]

There is a 0% chance that the NPS or the Disney family will ever get involved with the Disney parks.

The parks would be more likely to close altogether.

Obviously you're right, but having Disneyland be preserved as a national park is a pretty based idea.

 

[Miru]

To be dead honest, I think a hostile takeover might actually save the park, not destroy it, depending on who does the takeover.

 

[truecoat]

To be dead honest, I think a hostile takeover might actually save the park, not destroy it, depending on who does the takeover.

I'm surprised that Apple didn't make a play when Disney's stock was down.

 

[Phroobar]

Get the National Park Service to step in and remove the weight off of the company’s shoulders. Maybe get the Disney family in the mix too. As a National Park, the attractions will be kept relatively as-is, and it would also now rely on donations in addition to any sort of admission fee (preferably the Classic ticket system), with these donations potentially being “kickstarters” to restore and rebuild old attractions.

Oh yeah what happens when congress decides to cut funding or just shut it down so they can make their overall budget? The National Park Service is always the first thing congress shut downs when they decide to go on vacation for budget shortfalls. You seriously think nationalizing a corporation is a good idea?

 

[Phroobar]

To be dead honest, I think a hostile takeover might actually save the park, not destroy it, depending on who does the takeover.

Save the park yes but with sever critical damage. You can guarantee there will never be another ride added up to Disney standards ever again. No other park operator will build a Pirates or anything with story telling and showmanship. Show quality will take an even faster nose dive but it will still stay expensive as they milk it even more. Things will be removed just because they don't match the current demographic from the other parks they own. You would probably end up with a coaster over Main Street.

 

[truecoat]

Save the park yes but with sever critical damage. You can guarantee there will never be another ride added up to Disney standards ever again. No other park operator will build a Pirates or anything with story telling and showmanship. Show quality will take an even faster nose dive but it will still stay expensive as they milk it even more. Things will be removed just because they don't match the current demographic from the other parks they own. You would probably end up with a coaster over Main Street.

Isn't this where we're headed anyway?

 

[Phroobar]

Isn't this where we're headed anyway?

Everything except the coaster over Main Street. That would cost money and that is bad.

 

[Miru]

Isn't this where we're headed anyway?

Yeah, but he’s implying it would get even worse. As in, “Cars Road Trip” level bad.

 

[Rich T]

Well, this week was a good start. They at least pulled the lost car to the curb to check the road map.