OneofThree
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Just my opinion, but I view the need to market, reaffirm, or otherwise display any sort of abstraction to the world or to myself even as just plain weak.
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How long before we start seeing tattoos on Disney CM's?
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Walt Disney1955
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You can do what you want, but if that is the case then in my opinion so can a company. If they don't want it then they don't want it. It is their right to do that as much as it is yours to get one.
Tony the Tigger
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The same two people come to me for a job, I pick the one who is smarter and more capable, regardless of tattoos.
Jim Chandler
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What makes any one think that CMs don’t already have tattoos. Long sleeves cover a lot of skin. Also you need to remember that many workers are interns looking for jobs in hospitality and know tattoos don’t fly well in the hospitality field.
Going off the number of people who appear to get tattoos right now, I'm certain there'll be lots that do who are CM's. Personally I was just referring to the tattoos that can be seen on CM's which is against the rules right now. Others may have a problem with tattoos both seen and unseen, I'm not in that camp though myself.
Goofyernmost
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That was one of the deciding factors that made me chose North Carolina over Florida. I origionally got my CDL Passenger endorsement so I could retire and work part time at WDW. They made it clear that I would have to shave off my beard. If you saw my post on one thread that goes back a few years, one will see that I had that beard over 35 years ago. It has been there for most of my adult life. I don't think my kids and I know my grandkids have never seen me without one. It is as much a part of my personality as my face is. However, I did consider it then the opportunity to move to NC happened and it was an easy choice to make.
Po'Rich
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It is immature to make blanket generalizations about others.
crxbrett
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I am all for freedom of expression and I agree that is what tattoos are a form of. I happen to have 3 myself. But I always told myself I will never get one anywhere that someone can see it unless I am at the beach or in the pool. So even though I have 3 tattoos, if I ever went in for an interview, nobody wpuld ever even know. I see no problem with Disney hiring someone with tattoos as long as they abide by Disney's rules. So if someone has a sleeve, then I would expect them to wear long sleeves to cover them up while on-stage.
Obviously a tattoo with potentially offensive depictions like sex or violence probably shouldn't be allowed. But if somone has a tattoo on a shoulder or upper bicep or somewhere not visible, nobody would ever know anyways.
There are some CMs that tattoos would make sense, though. I am pretty sure some of the dancers at the Spirit of Aloha show have tattoos. But that is a very cultural thing and quite common in certain regions of the South Pacific, too.
Obviously a tattoo with potentially offensive depictions like sex or violence probably shouldn't be allowed. But if somone has a tattoo on a shoulder or upper bicep or somewhere not visible, nobody would ever know anyways.
There are some CMs that tattoos would make sense, though. I am pretty sure some of the dancers at the Spirit of Aloha show have tattoos. But that is a very cultural thing and quite common in certain regions of the South Pacific, too.
Tony the Tigger
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You said they were "both well-qualified." Not the same thing. I guess you are saying you meant it to say they were both equal. But you can have two well-qualified candidates where one is smarter and more capable (the distinctions I used.)
Quote: "My take: Two people come into my establishment for a job. Both are well qualified. One has an arm full of tattoos the other doesn't. I hire the one who doesn't. Sure it's a statement and a little art (well sort of but not really). My apprehension is did this person have the foresight to see how the tattoos would affect their professional life, if that is what they are looking for. Apparently not. So how can they make important decisions that would affect the future of my company. Believe it or not they are not acceptable by all."
I'm also old enough to recognize that antiquated, old-fashioned line we were taught as kids (a long time ago) about "having the foresight to see how the tattoos would affect their professional life." It no longer applies except to older generations which won't be around forever. That is what you should have the foresight to realize.
And no, I don't have any tattoos.
KBLovedDisney
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I know my tattoo will look great, but my skin will not because...well age. Age will change the way you look regardless.
Maybe you should post a photo with a poll?
Actually if the shoe fits wear it. I am entitled to my opinion and my value system and a tattoo is a sign of immaturity and any number of other things. And it is meant as a blanket statement and you comment is a typical ploy to silence anyone with an opinion different than yours. You just said making blanket generalizations is immature. Is your comment a blanket generalization. Sounds like it to me.
EmperorKuzco
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CMs are allowed to have tattoos. They are just covered with sleeves, pants or makeup while on stage. Or they are in backstage roles.
Po'Rich
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First, I understand the irony of my statement when I made it. In part, that is why I made it the way that I did. However, on a more serious note, your argument that you have repeatedly presented conveys two fallacies. First, you seem to believe that right to hold an opinion is the same as the right to subject others to that opinion without response. It is almost like you think the claim that this represents your opinion clears you of any responsibility for voicing said opinion. If you voice an opinion, you have to be willing to defend that opinion and also take responsibility for any consequences that come as a result of voicing your opinion. One of those consequences may very well be others telling you that you are wrong. Hiding behind the "it's just my opinion" claim at that point is just cowardly.
Second, you seem to operate under the mistaken impression that all opinions are equal. This is not the case. Some opinions are the result of knowledge and experience. These are informed opinions. Other opinions arise out of ignorance. Informed opinions outweigh opinions of ignorance.
Finally, as you state, you are entitled to your own value system, and you can decide for yourself whether or not you want a tattoo. You can also decide to associate or not associate with individuals who have tattoos. Yet, when you make dispersions upon another's character based upon little to no information except for the existence of a tattoo, then you are in the wrong.
For the record, I don't have a tattoo...and I don't even particularly like them. Yet, I don't believe that others need to live life based upon my likes and dislikes. There have been numerous people in this thread that have given reasons why they have tattoos. I've not heard one person yet that has provided personal evidence to support your claim that such individuals are immature.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I don't think it is a blanket generlization to criticize YOU specifically. What you did, def is though.
raven
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Funny you should say that. HGTV Star David Bromstad is a HUGE Disney fan. But when he’s in Orlando he heads over to the tattoo shop at Universal’s City Walk to get his Disney tattoos done.