Goofyernmost
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"Welcome to the Hollywood that never was and always will be". M. Eisner at the opening of Disney/MGM Studio's.
Pretty much covers everything doesn't it?
Pretty much covers everything doesn't it?
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How does the Toy Story midway ride fit DHS?
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Bairstow
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It fits...the same way Harry Potter, Spider-Man and Jurassic Park fit in the same park.
Don't over think it
Islands of Adventure at least can do miniature themed lands with their own internal logic.
Disney Hollywood Studios, on the other hand, is a complete and utter mess with attractions that run the gamut from "actual studio tour" (Indiana Jones Stunt Spectacular, Motors-Action) to traditional themed reality (Tower of Terror, Muppetvision) a combination of the two (Star Tours, Great Movie Ride) to "who cares, it's a ride, you people like rides, right? (Midway Mania, Jack Sparrow).
Yeah, and the same goes with the Magic Kingdom.
Bairstow
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True, and the Magic Kingdom goes a step further by making an effort to blend the change in theme as you move from one land to another.
Islands has much more abrupt changes, which actually makes sense within the broader context since each "island" is exactly that- they're only connected by bridges.
Islands has much more abrupt changes, which actually makes sense within the broader context since each "island" is exactly that- they're only connected by bridges.
The Empress Lilly
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A ride shouldn't fit. A ride should form an organic whole with the themed environment. The ride and the land and the theme should be one. The Jungle Cruise fits. SSE fits. ToT fits, regardless of its unclear time.
Shoehorning in rides based on some sophistry why they 'fit' is not building a theme park, it is making a mockery of it.
Having said that, DHS's backlot area seems to be themed to different movie studios. Where you kinda leave the studio (Lucasfilm, Pixar) and enter the universe of the studio's movie as you enter the attraction (Star Tours, Toy Story), or not as you stay at the Studio lot (Indy), or something peculiarly in between (Honey I Shrunk the Kids). TSM is not really good thematic placemaking, but no more or less than many others in DHS. The thematic issues are common to the entire backlot area.
Shoehorning in rides based on some sophistry why they 'fit' is not building a theme park, it is making a mockery of it.
Having said that, DHS's backlot area seems to be themed to different movie studios. Where you kinda leave the studio (Lucasfilm, Pixar) and enter the universe of the studio's movie as you enter the attraction (Star Tours, Toy Story), or not as you stay at the Studio lot (Indy), or something peculiarly in between (Honey I Shrunk the Kids). TSM is not really good thematic placemaking, but no more or less than many others in DHS. The thematic issues are common to the entire backlot area.
copcarguyp71
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I always kind of wondered that myself. The only tie-in I could ever come up with was that their music was used in a lot of movie soundtracks at the time. As it is one of the saving graces of the park though I choose to be blissfully ignorant and just enjoy it but there are times when I question what exactly it is doing there too. I do wish they had built the Toontown that was on the drawing board though that the tracks and exposed brick in the street at the split for ToT and RnR were meant to be a transition into. Oh well...things that might have been
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Goofyernmost
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Well the theme for DHS is really entertainment. It was never confined to just movies or just Disney movies as far as that is concern. There was a heavy emphasis on movies, yes, but certainly not confined. ToT.. TV. Muppets..TV, Superstar Television...TV Millionaire: Play it!... don't have a clue how that fit. So due to the fact that it comes under the umbrella does make it entertainment connection. However, I used that example due to the total lack of concern about that and the focus on Toy Story, which, it seems to me to be far more fitting then RcRC.
bethymouse
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DHS needs some work, especially in Pixar Place!
Bairstow
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Rock n' Rollercoaster "fits just fine" in the studio park itself but it's a terrible fit for the land that it's in; Sunset Strip was an area dedicated to replicating 1940s wartime Hollywood and the Tower of Terror supported this. The modern-day (or rather, late '90s) G-Force Records studio completely clashes with this theme, but thankfully is mostly contained in its own secluded mini-land.
DaveN1996
Active Member
If they ever actually decide to re-do that entire side of the park, replacing the car show with Radiator Springs, replace Shrunk the Kids play area with Bugs Life theme, and maybe throw something Monsters Inc. in there (the often rumored coaster or dark ride), it would make perfect sense to be where it is...
Skippy's Pal
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This. An even bigger question would be why Avatar - whose thin story is really all about special movie effects - is going to Animal Kingdom and NOT DHS. The blue folks, the Nav'i, are intelligent humanoids, not animals.
WDWoptmist
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It doesn't fit currently because Pixar place only has TSMM but when/if some other Pixar based attractions come to Pixar place it will fit much much better
Then why is the park called "Hollywood Studios"? Pixar Place is themed to Emeryville, which isn't even in Hollywood, but in Northern California!
How would the addition of more attractions make the Toy Story ride fit in better? It would still be themed to a midway.
Goofyernmost
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Because Hollywood is instantly connected with entertainment. Movies, TV, and even Music. You can't list every single entertainment hub because the sign would take up most of WDW. Separating one area from the other is just confusing and unnecessary. When most walk into DHS, entertainment is what they expect to experience. Hollywood doesn't just mean movies. In my view, almost, if not everything, is themed as entertainment and derived from one of the entertainment medias. For about the 40th time..."The Hollywood that never was and always will be."
Disney's Hollywood, Emeryville, Burbank, Nashville, Boston & New York City Studios, would be kinda silly.
ThisIt fits...the same way Harry Potter, Spider-Man and Jurassic Park fit in the same park.
Don't over think it
cynic710
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i take it as an ode to disney films. toy story was a huge success and marked a place in hollywood history. I cant say that pixar place is really a land in itself, but i think the ride holds its own just fine. to me hollywood studios was built as a living tribute to all things film, and toy story has earned at least its own ride.
Then maybe it should be called "Disney's Entertainment Adventure" or something. But that would be far too vague a name for a park like this.
Bairstow
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Is: Disney World Theme Park #3: Miscellaneous Concepts and Clones too on the nose?