How does one start a competition thread?

[jdmdisney99]

Perhaps so. And perhaps he should have put it in another thread. BUT...either help him or not.

It just seems non-productive to try and derail his project with what has become the status quo around here.

No one is derailing his project. This is a completely different thread, though I completely understand what you mean. Some of us choose not to help him. Some do try. That's that.

 

[jdmdisney99]

I was reading through the beginning of this thread and came across this discussion. I think a good solution would be to edit the original post in the competition thread with links to every challenge posted since.

See, improvements and criticism are very welcome. I think I'll do that for this season and last season, but I still will not be making new threads for every challenge. Just not my style. @BryceM, on the other hand...

 

[jdmdisney99]

So the nitty gritty has no place whatsoever in Imagineering?

Sorry, I also found this significant...

Did I say that? I just said people here aren't into that part of the process, hence why a lot of them don't like working in your threads with already developed concepts to simply flesh out the "nitty gritty" details. People here like just pure brainstorming more. At least that's my viewpoint of the public consensus.

 

[DinoInstitute]

Sorry, I also found this significant...

Did I say that? I just said people here aren't into that part of the process, hence why a lot of them don't like working in your threads with already developed concepts to simply flesh out the "nitty gritty" details. People here like just pure brainstorming more. At least that's my viewpoint of the public consensus.

I pretty much agree; if people want to add the little details, they want to do it to a project they had a fairly large hand in (such as the challenges in SA)

 

[unkadug]

I think I understand now....but it seems like it shouldn't be so hard to lend a hand to someone who is asking for specific help.

 

[DinoInstitute]

See, improvements and criticism are very welcome. I think I'll do that for this season and last season, but I still will not be making new threads for every challenge. Just not my style. @BryceM, on the other hand...

If it would convenience you, I wouldn't mind going back through and finding the links. I need something to occupy my time

Spoiler

Season 1 Overview

Challenge Proposal/Concept
Challenge 1 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 2 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 3 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Bonus Challenge Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 4 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 5 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 6 Team Magic Team Fantasy
Challenge 7 Matt7187 MonorailRed

 

[mharrington]

Brother, you're contradicting yourself. You say you want help, but you're unwilling to see your project go in any direction other than the one you see fit. Theres nothing wrong with having your own concept, but when you bring others in the concept is bound to change. It's part of it. Don't think I'm trying to call you out, because I'm not. I'm just trying to say that you can't say you want help but not be willing to relinquish some control.

But you make it seem as though I have to relinquish ALL control or none at all.

 

[Sam Magic]

But you make it seem as though I have to relinquish ALL control or none at all.

You do, you have to let some things go when you ask for help. Concepts change and become something new whenever others work on it so you must let go of 'control' of the project or do not ask for help.

 

[mharrington]

You do, you have to let some things go when you ask for help. Concepts change and become something new whenever others work on it so you must let go of 'control' of the project or do not ask for help.

Well, I have been getting a little bit of help off and on with a Mickey ride concept from @IDInstitute, mainly in PMs. So there's that.

 

[mharrington]

I meant to post about this earlier, but I forgot...

This might help you


Remember Imagineering isn't about limits, or will it work in that space its about creating the best thing possible.

I finally did watch the video for real some time ago, and it mentions that, yes, the blue sky process is important. However, they add, that's only the first step; there also needs to be an audience. One should also have a mediator, the person who sets up the brainstorm session because everyone needs to work in one direction. No one person can or should work on a project alone.

Also, it sounds like the issue of constraint does not matter at first, but will matter somewhat later on. However, it seems as though the blue sky process here at this forum is all that matters. He said to take a moment to forget about constraints, the key word being "take a moment", as in "at a later time, because it will eventually happen".

 

[Voxel]

I meant to post about this earlier, but I forgot...



I finally did watch the video for real some time ago, and it mentions that, yes, the blue sky process is important. However, they add, that's only the first step; there also needs to be an audience. One should also have a mediator, the person who sets up the brainstorm session because everyone needs to work in one direction. No one person can or should work on a project alone.

Also, it sounds like the issue of constraint does not matter at first, but will matter somewhat later on. However, it seems as though the blue sky process here at this forum is all that matters. He said to take a moment to forget about constraints, the key word being "take a moment", as in "at a later time, because it will eventually happen".

I would agree that there's forum cares about mainly because very very few people have the expertise and the knowledge to know every aspect of the engineering a project. I like to think of the competition in particular as blue sky purposals to receive funding for a project (which is usually the purpose of blue sky. To come up with projects and purpose them for funding. Once funding occurs them you get to the more nitty gritty.). At the same time their still is a level of realism on the possiblity of the attraction (most of the time. Jdmdisney pushed this with Galaxy but accounted for it stating that it would be built for a long long long time)
Now that I can think of it I can only think of one project where almost every element of construction was taken into consideration along with plausiblity and maneuvering around crowds and that is jdm and I 50s mainstreet where we dicussed how we would build around the crowd. But that detail isn't necessary here

 

[mharrington]

I would agree that there's forum cares about mainly because very very few people have the expertise and the knowledge to know every aspect of the engineering a project. I like to think of the competition in particular as blue sky purposals to receive funding for a project (which is usually the purpose of blue sky. To come up with projects and purpose them for funding. Once funding occurs them you get to the more nitty gritty.). At the same time their still is a level of realism on the possiblity of the attraction (most of the time. Jdmdisney pushed this with Galaxy but accounted for it stating that it would be built for a long long long time)

Uh, I'm sorry, what do you mean by "there's forum cares about"?

 

[Voxel]

Uh, I'm sorry, what do you mean by "there's forum cares about"?

Sorry phone has terrible autocorrect. Curse you apple... I meant the forum cares about blue sky mainly...