Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Nah…I bet he’d love it…but I just don’t see it.
Besides…the “Mickey mouse operation” is just TOO EASY for comedians.
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Rumor Hollywood insiders say there's growing tension at Disney as CEO Bob Chapek chafes at Bob Iger's 'long goodbye'
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Besides…the “Mickey mouse operation” is just TOO EASY for comedians.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Diversity and inclusion aren't progressive.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…it’s a crap world, isn’t it?
But we of the fandom still have somekind of chivalrous notion deep down that an “artist” of the John Lassiter type (without the creep) is gonna be put in charge.
That will never…nor should ever…happen again.
Disney isn’t a film studio. It’s an international machine. A “Star destroyer” if you will.
Gotta have money guys near or at the top…but it’s also too big for one dude. And the archetypal kinda people have been seen before.
But Bob chapek should never have happened either. He’s a junk peddler and that’s it. No “hidden business savvy”…a glorified department manager.
And that is on Robert A. Iger. Period.
Now if they want to scapegoat him and dump him as the “covid era scapegoat” in 2023…that at least shows some clue/damage control.
That's completely untrue.
Up until Bob Iger started fiddling around with his political ambitions in the 2010's, Disney was known for not pushing the boundaries on anything even remotely controversial in the social sense.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Disney is financially “conservative” (too much) and socially/PR related “progressive” (probably too much)
They are in a really tough spot with this Florida thing. And it’s Florida’s fault 1000%.
That’s bleeding into this whole management “tension”
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Man, you know you are getting old when you remember the same posts on the same board about Eisner...and then Iger...and now Chapek.
I'm sure just mentioning that will send people into little essay-writing fits about how "it's different this time", but no, it's not - the context may change, but the bottom line is - you don't get to be CEO of a major corporation without acting like...a CEO of a corporation. Disney ceased being any semblance of a "family business" a half-century ago, and no matter who they bring in, everyone is going to hate them.
I'm sure just mentioning that will send people into little essay-writing fits about how "it's different this time", but no, it's not - the context may change, but the bottom line is - you don't get to be CEO of a major corporation without acting like...a CEO of a corporation. Disney ceased being any semblance of a "family business" a half-century ago, and no matter who they bring in, everyone is going to hate them.
You know I love you, but don't you have a coffin to go regenerate in?
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I agree they have a “non-controversial” history…but they have been one if not the banner supportive companies as far as LGBTQ demographics since day one.
Sometimes I wonder if anyone actually knows the business they’re supporting? Or is it that no one ever notices the “little people” who wear name tags and serve them?
Stamps syndrome.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That occurred to me too
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
That doesn't mean they're not going to win.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
No…but Disney cannot stay on the sidelines on this. That was NEVER an option for them. It’s not Nebraska
They were no more or less supportive than what any other Fortune 500 company HR department would condone. To say they went out of their way comparatively speaking to corporations of similar size and type is a stretch.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Just wrong here…sorry. We can disagree.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
That's not entirely true -- there's a reason most of the major conservative religious organizations started a boycott against Disney in the mid 1990s.
To be fair, I think it was more that Disney wasn't actively opposing/shutting down LGBTQ activities around the parks, but still.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
My main gripe isn't with their decision to participate in the conversation, it's with their general incompetence in doing so. They've made themselves the villain of both sides in the culture war. Think about that for a second. How is that even possible?
el_super
Well-Known Member
Ellen came out on ABC in 1997. To be fair you're probably right that Iger had something to do with that, but wrong about the timing. It's been at least 25 years if not longer.
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Dranth
Well-Known Member
What? They started offering same sex partner benefits back in 1995 which was considered a big deal and whole swaths of people swore they would never go again.
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The only reason why they did that was because all the other large studios had already done it.
They didn't do it be a in a pioneering position, they did it because they didn't want to be left behind in possibly loosing talent to their competitors.
"Disney to Extend Health Benefits to Gay Partners : Labor: The studio feared losing talented employees in the competitive entertainment industry, analysts say."
Disney to Extend Health Benefits to Gay Partners : Labor: The studio feared losing talented employees in the competitive entertainment industry, analysts say.
Joining other major Hollywood studios, Walt Disney Co. will extend health coverage to the partners of gay and lesbian employees beginning Jan. 1.
www.latimes.com
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mikejs78
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I mean, I haven't agreed with you much on this issue but I wholeheartedly endorse this statement.