HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

[Haymarket]

 

[AEfx]

Just watched a ridethru and yeah...amazing it's nearly a 100% copy/paste job from a super limited ride experience that was originally due to lack of space back when it was Maelstrom.

Thank goodness I'm not the only one that noticed that.

I kept stopping the video to make sure I was watching the right one, LOL.

It kind of boggles my mind, actually - I'd think it would be more of a pain to recreate it than to create something new.

I actually was decently impressed over here with what they were able to do with Malestrom to make it that much of a Frozen ride, but much less impressed when they started from scratch over there and built a whole land around it for what appears to be the nearly the same exact experience.

Oh well, at least for us in the stateside parks, we don't have to say "wow, the one in X-foreign park is so much better..." for this one.

 

[ChrisFL]

Only have to wait til June to see what Tokyo does with theirs

 

[Haymarket]

I wonder if, a few months after Zootopia opens, Hong Kong will announce the e-ticket Marvel ride (King Thanos) is in development for the park and DAC (with Hong Kong paying 52% of the R&D), and Shanghai will announce their new outdoor custom Vekoma coaster (Spider-Man probably).

 

[Eric Graham]

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/03/hong-kong-disneyland-opens-worlds-first-frozen-amusement-park-area.html

 

[Eric Graham]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/20/travel/disney-first-world-of-frozen-opens-hong-kong-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[PymParty]

opening day review !

 

[22031029]

Thank goodness I'm not the only one that noticed that.

I kept stopping the video to make sure I was watching the right one, LOL.

It kind of boggles my mind, actually - I'd think it would be more of a pain to recreate it than to create something new.

I actually was decently impressed over here with what they were able to do with Malestrom to make it that much of a Frozen ride, but much less impressed when they started from scratch over there and built a whole land around it for what appears to be the nearly the same exact experience.

Oh well, at least for us in the stateside parks, we don't have to say "wow, the one in X-foreign park is so much better..." for this one.

To be honest, my local friends were extremely impressed with frozen ever after, so although it still is an admittedly lazily copied ride, I think it would fare well with the local audience and people who don’t know that it is a cloned ride

 

[Mike S]

Only have to wait til June to see what Tokyo does with theirs

Isn’t that also going to be a clone? Although they sort of get more of a pass since it’s coming along side the new Tangled and Peter Pan rides.

 

[fradz]

Isn’t that also going to be a clone? Although they sort of get more of a pass since it’s coming along side the new Tangled and Peter Pan rides.

The showbuilding is quite a lot bigger than HKDL's and it is expected to be a different, bigger & better ride

 

[AEfx]

To be honest, my local friends were extremely impressed with frozen ever after, so although it still is an admittedly lazily copied ride, I think it would fare well with the local audience and people who don’t know that it is a cloned ride

That's good. And I am not one to actually hate on clones, generally - they make sense, the majority of people out there are never going to experience more than one Disney resort. While I value uniqueness as a fan, I also understand that people basically expect Disney to have the same rides everywhere, especially at Castle parks.

But this one just surprised me - because logistically, if the building itself was brand new, it would seem to me to be more difficult and limiting than just arranging the same sets in a new way.

I'm actually curious to see what the ride path looks like, if it really is pretty much the same, or if it just feels/looks that way.

 

[AEfx]

The showbuilding is quite a lot bigger than HKDL's and it is expected to be a different, bigger & better ride

I think this also added to my confusion - I thought this was the big impressive one, I confused it with the one coming from Tokyo.

 

[22031029]

That's good. And I am not one to actually hate on clones, generally - they make sense, the majority of people out there are never going to experience more than one Disney resort. While I value uniqueness as a fan, I also understand that people basically expect Disney to have the same rides everywhere, especially at Castle parks.

But this one just surprised me - because logistically, if the building itself was brand new, it would seem to me to be more difficult and limiting than just arranging the same sets in a new way.

I'm actually curious to see what the ride path looks like, if it really is pretty much the same, or if it just feels/looks that way.

I think that there are multiple slight differences. (Eg. the drop is on the left in the HK version while in EPCOT it's on the right) you also get an extra 2 minutes of track to space out the scenes better.

 

[Asa]

Making the magic in Disney's World of Frozen

Do read "Changing Frozen Ever After", HKDL's Frozen Ever After has a new ride system and the ride lasts more than 6 minutes, compared with EPCOT's 4.5 minutes. The animatronics are also different. It is not a direct clone at all.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Thank goodness I'm not the only one that noticed that.

I kept stopping the video to make sure I was watching the right one, LOL.

It kind of boggles my mind, actually - I'd think it would be more of a pain to recreate it than to create something new.

I actually was decently impressed over here with what they were able to do with Malestrom to make it that much of a Frozen ride, but much less impressed when they started from scratch over there and built a whole land around it for what appears to be the nearly the same exact experience.

Oh well, at least for us in the stateside parks, we don't have to say "wow, the one in X-foreign park is so much better..." for this one.

It’s not really mind boggling to me cause they kinda did the same exact thing a decade ago when they copied our little mermaid ride 100% exactly (which itself was a repurposed building), dressed the outside up differently and plopped it into new fantasyland as the only other ride in the new land. At least this time around they actually improved the animatronics

 

[DLR92]

Frozen ever After doesn’t look so bad. But it still feel sterile. The scene to the last drop is sincerely well done though. Look like a decent drop like Pirates of the Caribbean in Disneyland.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It’s not really mind boggling to me cause they kinda did the same exact thing a decade ago when they copied our little mermaid ride 100% exactly (which itself was a repurposed building), dressed the outside up differently and plopped it into new fantasyland as the only other ride in the new land. At least this time around they actually improved the animatronics

The Little Mermaid ride was developed for both parks simultaneously. At Disney’s California Adventure, the Palace of Fine Arts Rotunda, which was a detached structure, is the only part that remained from Golden Dreams. The theater itself was demolished and replaced by a new, custom show building specifically designed for The Little Mermaid. The Magic Kingdom version opened with the updated animatronics (and show lighting) that replaced the original ones in California.

 

[ParkPeeker]

The Little Mermaid ride was developed for both parks simultaneously. At Disney’s California Adventure, the Palace of Fine Arts Rotunda, which was a detached structure, is the only part that remained from Golden Dreams. The theater itself was demolished and replaced by a new, custom show building specifically designed for The Little Mermaid. The Magic Kingdom version opened with the updated animatronics (and show lighting) that replaced the original ones in California.

Ah ok, didn’t know all that. But other than the weird hair animatronic, were any of the other ones actually updated?

 

[BrianLo]

There is also a cost saving element in the cloning that for better or worse HKDL needed to pull off. I’m pretty much the opposite of a champion for cloning, but this one makes reasonable sense when being pitched to their partner. HKDL just didn’t (until hopefully in the near future) have great cash flow for extremely robust expansion. Unlike OLC.

With OLC, Frozen is supposed to be the crown jewel of their three part expansion, versus HK this is merely the second piece of the pitched Marvel headliner.

The actual cop out is Walt Disney Studios Paris’ FEA. That one is all on Disney itself. Though I think the land itself turned out better than expected, there’s a difference between nestling it alongside Small World and Fantasyland vs making it the weenie of an entire lake and park revival.

 

[J4546]

i get that having a clone of frozen ride at Epcot is not what everyone here wants, but people in HK mostly havent seen this ride before and dont have a log flume in the park so its a new experience/ride system/theme for the HK locals. Im more perturbed that the Paris version is also a clone in a 1 ride land....esp for what seems to be the worst disney park out of them all, it needed way more that that.....and its still like 2 years away from opening lol