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HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land?????

RandySavage

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#81



So the one thing I noticed from the Legco map above is that the show building for the new FEA is significantly different shape (and larger by a good 30-40%) than the one in Epcot.

I'm ok with FEA if it gets the Shanghai Pan-esque treatment. Ie improve capacity, revisit and spruce up some scenes. Maybe add a scene or two.

Just as long as it doesn't go the head-scratchingly awful Mermaid NFL route. Then I'll be on board. Fortunately we could always tell the Mermaid show building was a copy from the get go. This clearly is not.
Odd thing about that plan is both the Grizzly coaster layout and Mystic Point are different than what was actually built....
 

Sped2424

Well-Known Member
#83
Update: Hong Kong Government approved funding. We will be seeing this project going forward and something new will be arriving every year up to 2020.
Any word on the frozen plan changing? Spirit mentioned that the clone of our epcot version was now dead for something unique to hkdl.
 

britain

Well-Known Member
#84
Any word on the frozen plan changing? Spirit mentioned that the clone of our epcot version was now dead for something unique to hkdl.
I bet this is the Shanghai Pirates system going into another park @WDW1974 was referring to. It makes too much sense. Why build a clone of a basic flume that gave WDI headaches when trying to time effects & music at the Epcot version, when you can use this shiny new system that gives perfect control on boat flow-through?
 
#86
They could retheme or add an overlay on to Space Mountain to make it like you're going through the portal in Heimdall's Observatory from the Thor movies and going to the planet with the Frost Giants or some other places. I wondered why they hadn't tried an overlay on to Space Mountain before like that in Anaheim. The portal from the movie has seemed reminiscent to me of the tunnel that you go through at the beginning of Space Mountain.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
#87
I bet this is the Shanghai Pirates system going into another park @WDW1974 was referring to. It makes too much sense. Why build a clone of a basic flume that gave WDI headaches when trying to time effects & music at the Epcot version, when you can use this shiny new system that gives perfect control on boat flow-through?
I highly suspect that's it. He dropped both facts in too close proximity for them to be unrelated.
 

peep

Active Member
#88
Really glad this got approved. Considering the first addition is meant for next year construction will have to start fairly soon?
 

egg

Well-Known Member
#89
I saw this a few days ago, and of course, wonderful news! Excited for many things that are to come.

The castle change is something I'm particularly excited about.

I would be fine with an improved Frozen ride. But I also remember how people commented that Frozen Ever After seemed like the perfect classic Fantasyland ride, and, well, this time they're building it in Fantasyland. Kind of in Fantasyland, at least. So I would not be opposed to a near clone of FEA.

And the Marvel ride coming in 2023 should be, well, not the most Magic-Kingdom-style of all rides, but it should be epic. Hopefully comparable in quality to Shanghai Pirates and Battle Escape. Hopefully a major major draw for the park.

Not at all thrilled about the Buzz retheme. But everything else... can't come soon enough!
 

peep

Active Member
#90
Not at all thrilled about the Buzz retheme
Honestly I'm a little sick of Toy Story in the parks but at least a re-theme here opens up the possibility of a Toy Story themed interactive ride over in the Playland area? I'm really intrigued as to how they'll pull off the Ant-Man theme.
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
#91
I'm still a little confused that TSMM didn't end up in the plans (nor has it wound up in WDS or seemingly Shanghai). Compared to most other parks, Hong Kong could very easily get away with the two track version. The plot sits open for it and I can't imagine it's all that expensive of a ride, has the theming ready to go for it and R&D done. It seems like an acceptable 2021/2022 addition if they are keeping the gap for Marvel. Especially if Buzz is going away, I'm even more shocked it didn't come this decade frankly.

I know it's not everyone's go-to favourite, but there is no denying it's been incredibly popular, repeatable and would drive attendance for a smaller cost outlay.

With frozen avoiding that small pad, it's not like it could go to much use unless the whole Toy Story playland was removed. I'm sure some would love that, but that's a good 15+ years out from the realm of possibilities.
 

Jones14

Well-Known Member
#92
So is Frozen still set to make a 2020 opening? If they're throwing FEA out the window, then they must have plans ready to go for the new version. If not, we're probably looking at a 2021 opening at best for the Frozen area.
 

RandySavage

Well-Known Member
#93
So is Frozen still set to make a 2020 opening? If they're throwing FEA out the window, then they must have plans ready to go for the new version. If not, we're probably looking at a 2021 opening at best for the Frozen area.
I'd be surprised if everything on that initial schedule doesn't get pushed back 9-15 months. Once they break ground (and they'll likely post that event) it will take ~ 2.5-3 years to build Arendelle.
 
#94
I'm still a little confused that TSMM didn't end up in the plans (nor has it wound up in WDS or seemingly Shanghai). Compared to most other parks, Hong Kong could very easily get away with the two track version. The plot sits open for it and I can't imagine it's all that expensive of a ride, has the theming ready to go for it and R&D done. It seems like an acceptable 2021/2022 addition if they are keeping the gap for Marvel. Especially if Buzz is going away, I'm even more shocked it didn't come this decade frankly.
Disney offered TSMM to HKDL but the local management turned it down as being too similar to Buzz and too expensive.
 

clemmo

Well-Known Member
#98
I haven't really followed much of the HKDL expansion but what is the 2018 marvel attraction taking over buzz? Also if frozen is scheduled to come in 2020 shouldn't it start this year?
 
It would be nice if they can fill in the gap between Arendelle and Toy Story Land with TSMM.
TSL needs an indoor ride anyway, the land is completely empty on rainy days.

By the way, I just saw a brilliant idea that could increase the number of dark rides in HKDL on Micechat. Wanna know what do you guys think. Here's the idea (NOT MINE):
1. Move Mickey's Philhar Magic to the Opera House in Main Street.
2. Build a dark ride in the original site of Philhar (possibly Peter Pan's Flight)
3. Build Critter Country (with Splash Mountain and Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) under Grizzly Gulch
4. The original Pooh ride in Fland can then be converted into another dark ride (maybe Snow White)
5. Demolish Fantasy Gardens and build an Alice dark ride there (such that it forms an Alice mini-land with Teacups)
 
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