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HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

jrhwdw

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Nope! I doubt it's leaving though, it's such a wonderful song. They also haven't announced whether this is an entirely new show or just a short addition to Momentous. The creative directors mentioned that this new show "Momentous: Party in the Night Sky!" will be roughly 30 minutes and will include a short story between Mickey and other Disney friends.
Would be nice if the 20th Segment would be after Momentous, like a Tag.

Also The Pyro is staying, correct? I didn't see any in the latest concept art....
 

no.swatz

Active Member
Would be nice if the 20th Segment would be after Momentous, like a Tag.

Also The Pyro is staying, correct? I didn't see any in the latest concept art....
Nope, I don't think the 20th Segment is after Momentous. There was a post 2 weeks ago on a teaser kind of thing for the projections and drones and the new segment starts from 00:00:34:00 (34 seconds).

Regarding your question on the pyro, I believe the pyro would be staying.
 

LameBoi

Active Member
Nope, I don't think the 20th Segment is after Momentous. There was a post 2 weeks ago on a teaser kind of thing for the projections and drones and the new segment starts from 00:00:34:00 (34 seconds).

Regarding your question on the pyro, I believe the pyro would be staying.
Hope there is more pyro.
 

no.swatz

Active Member
Just watched a video of the HK Secretary of Leisure, Sports and Tourism explaining and updating on future expansion plans to Hong Kong Disneyland Resort. Apparently, to clear up confusion, she mentioned that Spiderman will NOT be the only attraction to be coming to Stark Expo, but there will be additional attraction facilities ("like World of Frozen"), restaurants and stores. Does this mean that with the opening of this new section, Stark Expo and Tomorrowland will be finally separated?
 

Supersnow84

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Just watched a video of the HK Secretary of Leisure, Sports and Tourism explaining and updating on future expansion plans to Hong Kong Disneyland Resort. Apparently, to clear up confusion, she mentioned that Spiderman will NOT be the only attraction to be coming to Stark Expo, but there will be additional attraction facilities ("like World of Frozen"), restaurants and stores. Does this mean that with the opening of this new section, Stark Expo and Tomorrowland will be finally separated?
They are already officially separated in park promo it’s just they can’t put out up anything like land separating barriers because the current gift shop and ant man face the Tomorrowland central plaza

If they provide an entry to the current gift shop that faces the new plaza (which is doubtful because of the train line) they might be able to “sequester” it but I doubt it because they already consider them two seperate lands

It will be interesting what they put there that’s not just the TOT
 

no.swatz

Active Member
They are already officially separated in park promo it’s just they can’t put out up anything like land separating barriers because the current gift shop and ant man face the Tomorrowland central plaza

If they provide an entry to the current gift shop that faces the new plaza (which is doubtful because of the train line) they might be able to “sequester” it but I doubt it because they already consider them two seperate lands

It will be interesting what they put there that’s not just the TOT
I really hope they demolish the Tomorrowland stage soon, it's kind of pointless except for stage shows. If they actually demolish this, they could do a whole new entrance to the Stark Expo area instead of just that little space on the left of the Iron Man Experience entrance.
 

no.swatz

Active Member
As promised, photos from today's preview!
(i edited a bit for the encanto float cuz its kinda dim today)
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Supersnow84

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I really hope they demolish the Tomorrowland stage soon, it's kind of pointless except for stage shows. If they actually demolish this, they could do a whole new entrance to the Stark Expo area instead of just that little space on the left of the Iron Man Experience entrance.
I can’t imagine they won’t, it would be a guest flow nightmare to make the new courtyard a dead end with the only entrance being turning left at the entrance of Ironman

The only other possible entrance would be to go round the back of space mountain to come out near storybook theatre but as seen from the train the back of space mountain isn’t very guest presentable and they’d have to deal with the train maintenance tracks to get at that wedge anyway
 

LameBoi

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I can’t imagine they won’t, it would be a guest flow nightmare to make the new courtyard a dead end with the only entrance being turning left at the entrance of Ironman

The only other possible entrance would be to go round the back of space mountain to come out near storybook theatre but as seen from the train the back of space mountain isn’t very guest presentable and they’d have to deal with the train maintenance tracks to get at that wedge anyway
They should just move the train barn entirely to open up that plot of land. Disneyland moved it’s train barn from it’s original location where Galaxy’s Edge is now to it’s current location behind Small World.
 

Supersnow84

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They should just move the train barn entirely to open up that plot of land. Disneyland moved it’s train barn from it’s original location where Galaxy’s Edge is now to it’s current location behind Small World.
They might actually be planning that. If what they said is to be believed then more than just TOT is coming to that plot. TOT is smaller than quinjet but that plot isn’t that large. If they want TOT a shop/QSFB and maybe another playhouse in the woods style attraction they are likely going to need the second wedge on the other side of the maintenance track. This is probably the best time to use it if they ever decide to use it because that plot is too small and messy to be its own expansion
 

Timothy_Q

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Disneyland moved it’s train barn from it’s original location where Galaxy’s Edge is now to it’s current location behind Small World.
Disneyland's train and monorail barn has always been next to small world
The backstage buildings that SWGE displaced were not related to the train
 

LameBoi

Active Member
They might actually be planning that. If what they said is to be believed then more than just TOT is coming to that plot. TOT is smaller than quinjet but that plot isn’t that large. If they want TOT a shop/QSFB and maybe another playhouse in the woods style attraction they are likely going to need the second wedge on the other side of the maintenance track. This is probably the best time to use it if they ever decide to use it because that plot is too small and messy to be its own expansion
I’ve superimposed the train barn on where I think is one of many plausible location (other than copying Disneyland and putting it near the parade route). The train barn is small enough to fit in the tree berm, between the service road of the Pavilion expansion pad and the service road for potential DT Disney shops.
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no.swatz

Active Member
Honestly, although it kinda shows that the Spiderman attraction looks a lot like TOT. Can't they just do something similar to Battle at the Ministry from Epic Universe? Having a TOT style ride vehicle with a 360-body manoeuvre? I feel like this would be much better and they don't have to make the building necessarily tall for it... Especially since it's probably mostly screen-based.
 

LameBoi

Active Member
Honestly, although it kinda shows that the Spiderman attraction looks a lot like TOT. Can't they just do something similar to Battle at the Ministry from Epic Universe? Having a TOT style ride vehicle with a 360-body manoeuvre? I feel like this would be much better and they don't have to make the building necessarily tall for it... Especially since it's probably mostly screen-based.
I had this thought too but I see a few potential issues with this. First, concept art for spiderman showed a lap bar which would indicate something more thrilling than what Ministry is with it’s seatbelt. Second, the show building for a Ministry type ride would probably need to be much larger than that of a tower.

On a personal point, whatever ride they put in that plot, it shouldn’t just be a screen based attraction. There needs to be some physical sets, or even better, animatronics.
 

Supersnow84

Well-Known Member
I’ve superimposed the train barn on where I think is one of many plausible location (other than copying Disneyland and putting it near the parade route). The train barn is small enough to fit in the tree berm, between the service road of the Pavilion expansion pad and the service road for potential DT Disney shops.
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Regardless this is basically their only chance to move it because if they don’t then that wedge will forever remain dead land because it simply doesn’t have enough space to be anything more than an extension of the old quinjet plot. If they do use both halves then the complete plot could probably fit a courtyard, TOT, a gift shop and QSFB, some bathrooms, an exit gift shop and some kinda show/experience.

It’s not like the plot is used for anything right now because of its location
 

no.swatz

Active Member
I had this thought too but I see a few potential issues with this. First, concept art for spiderman showed a lap bar which would indicate something more thrilling than what Ministry is with it’s seatbelt. Second, the show building for a Ministry type ride would probably need to be much larger than that of a tower.

On a personal point, whatever ride they put in that plot, it shouldn’t just be a screen based attraction. There needs to be some physical sets, or even better, animatronics.
Or maybe something like WDW's TOT? The vehicle can move on a track, then goes to an elevator shaft?
 

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