Henry Cavill as Wolverine?

[Disney Irish]

Agree..:the X-men movies have been pretty good...but haven’t delved into many of the characters nearly enough.

Storm and cyclops are the heart of the X-men...and they haven’t done nearly enough. Cavill could definitely be a cyclops




Ahhh...hope springs eternal with you guys...a lot of that is tentative of course...I think we will see many changes before that “phase 5” stuff...

Hell...they may even get back to other franchise that are currently nearly dead in the water - even though they’d give you a similar schedule with lots of “tentatives”? We can hope

Well with one of the rumors being Storm may make an appearance in Black Panther 2 you may see it sooner rather than later.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well with one of the rumors being Storm may make an appearance in Black Panther 2 you may see it sooner rather than later.

I could hope.

I have enjoyed most of fox’s X-men films...but they have missed a ton of what makes X-men the best marvel franchise...including the villains.

 

[Disney Irish]

I could hope.

I have enjoyed most of fox’s X-men films...but they have missed a ton of what makes X-men the best marvel franchise...including the villains.

What Fox missed the most was a lot of the backstory and lore that comes from the comics. So you could tell it was done by a different company that didn't know the Marvel lore. That is one thing that is different with the MCU, while not 100% the same as the comics (which is actually good), they at least keep to the lore of the comics because its the same company that created it.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

I don't think Cavil is a good fit. Back in the day before any of the films Marvel folks would point to Clint Eastwood as the perfect type of actor for Wolverine. I think you need someone darker and more grizzled for wolvie.
It's a shame Tom Hardy is all Venomed up because he actually fits...short and all.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think Cavil is a good fit. Back in the day before any of the films Marvel folks would point to Clint Eastwood as the perfect type of actor for Wolverine. I think you need someone darker and more grizzled for wolvie.
It's a shame Tom Hardy is all Venomed up because he actually fits...short and all.

Nah...I’m gonna disagree...

I don’t think they need to go to tortured extremes on Wolverine...

Casting is important...but I’d like for them to make the X-men more of a team franchise...if even so they aren’t at the will of one actor down the road.

Look at avengers? Lost their best two because of pay and it doesn’t bode well for the future

 

[Disney Irish]

Nah...I’m gonna disagree...

I don’t think they need to go to tortured extremes on Wolverine...

Casting is important...but I’d like for them to make the X-men more of a team franchise...if even so they aren’t at the will of one actor down the road.

Look at avengers? Lost their best two because of pay and it doesn’t bode well for the future

I have to disagree with this.

What makes the MCU so popular, the fact they are tied so close to the source material. How many times has the line up of the Avengers been changed up over the years, too many to count. So this idea that the Avengers and by extension the MCU has a doomed future because two characters have left is just hater talk.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have to disagree with this.

What makes the MCU so popular, the fact they are tied so close to the source material. How many times has the line up of the Avengers been changed up over the years, too many to count. So this idea that the Avengers and by extension the MCU has a doomed future because two characters have left is just hater talk.

Well...I can’t disagree with your perspective. I just think they will try to insulate themselves going forward. They won’t pay An actor $5,000,000 for 5 minutes again....and I think the loss of Evans and Downey is gonna he felt at the box office for a long time.

Feige has done an amazing job of navigating the ship...but I think he might be getting a new job so it would be difficult shoes to fill

 

[Phicinfan]

Nah...I’m gonna disagree...

I don’t think they need to go to tortured extremes on Wolverine...

Casting is important...but I’d like for them to make the X-men more of a team franchise...if even so they aren’t at the will of one actor down the road.

Look at avengers? Lost their best two because of pay and it doesn’t bode well for the future

May be a bit too early to say that. Lets see if/when the next Avengers movie hits, and we can then see what the damage is with the loss of the two major stars. A lot of that also will depend if any of the other originals are still there, Hulk has movies left, not sure on how many more movies Chris Hemsworth has after Love and Thunder.

 

[Phicinfan]

Well...I can’t disagree with your perspective. I just think they will try to insulate themselves going forward. They won’t pay An actor $5,000,000 for 5 minutes again....and I think the loss of Evans and Downey is gonna he felt at the box office for a long time.

Feige has done an amazing job of navigating the ship...but I think he might be getting a new job so it would be difficult shoes to fill

I think if they don't HIT on right casting for Fantastic Four and key Xmen, you are probably right. However, if they hit on Fantastic 4 and Xmen, then they take a ton of pressure off of the Avengers franchise. Allows them to move to more expansive Avengers cast.

That being said, I would love to see the Defenders come in , with Hulk, Dr. Strange, Valkyrie and Namor and Daredevil. That would be awesome.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

May be a bit too early to say that. Lets see if/when the next Avengers movie hits, and we can then see what the damage is with the loss of the two major stars. A lot of that also will depend if any of the other originals are still there, Hulk has movies left, not sure on how many more movies Chris Hemsworth has after Love and Thunder.

True...a lot to watch.

I just think the soul of that franchise was Evans...and Downey was the face of it.

But I get what Disney was doing...blame Johnny Depp.

 

[Phicinfan]

True...a lot to watch.

I just think the soul of that franchise was Evans...and Downey was the face of it.

But I get what Disney was doing...blame Johnny Depp.

Honestly, I think they just don't want it to get stale. The beauty of starting with the Avengers is, they rotated members constantly. So losing Cap or Iron Man should be part of the plan, to allow the ability to explore other members. I hate they don't give Hawkeye more face time as he was a HUGE member of the Avengers. But that is just me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Honestly, I think they just don't want it to get stale. The beauty of starting with the Avengers is, they rotated members constantly. So losing Cap or Iron Man should be part of the plan, to allow the ability to explore other members. I hate they don't give Hawkeye more face time as he was a HUGE member of the Avengers. But that is just me.

We will see...

I think the core of marvel is Cap, Ironman, Spidey, Thor and Hulk as far as broad, mass appeal goes.

Fatanstic four has not gone well...since Evans was the torch - ironically

X-men is the geeker favorite...and has done better than it should have at Fox. But it’s a tough one because they have to cast for the younger demographics and they made like 11 movies at Fox? That’s stale too

 

[Phicinfan]

We will see...

I think the core of marvel is Cap, Ironman, Spidey, Thor and Hulk as far as broad, mass appeal goes.

Fatanstic four has not gone well...since Evans was the torch - ironically

X-men is the geeker favorite...and has don’t better than is should have at Fox. But it’s a tough one because they have to cast for the younger demographics and they made like 11 movies at Fox? That’s stale too

I won't disagree with Spidey or Cap or Ironman being core. I still think Hulk and Thor are more fringe, but that is just me.

I fully disagree on Fantastic Four though, that is hard core Marvel fan there, and while all the movie versions have been botched, this HAS to be a hit for MCU, if they miss as well, you can kiss this franchise goodbye, and you can kiss key movie events marvel could pull off as well.

As for Xmen, I think you are correct, it does lean to the more "geeky" side, but if they hit it and hit it well, it will take a ton of pressure off of Avengers movies needing to be HUGE.

Of course, I hope they do hit, I desperately want to see Avengers vs. Xmen at some point in the MCU.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I won't disagree with Spidey or Cap or Ironman being core. I still think Hulk and Thor are more fringe, but that is just me.

I fully disagree on Fantastic Four though, that is hard core Marvel fan there, and while all the movie versions have been botched, this HAS to be a hit for MCU, if they miss as well, you can kiss this franchise goodbye, and you can kiss key movie events marvel could pull off as well.

As for Xmen, I think you are correct, it does lean to the more "geeky" side, but if they hit it and hit it well, it will take a ton of pressure off of Avengers movies needing to be HUGE.

Of course, I hope they do hit, I desperately want to see Avengers vs. Xmen at some point in the MCU.

I completely agree...

How about that?

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David ...

I’ll buy you a drink at the Brazil pavilion...any...day...now

 

[Disney Irish]

Well...I can’t disagree with your perspective. I just think they will try to insulate themselves going forward. They won’t pay An actor $5,000,000 for 5 minutes again....and I think the loss of Evans and Downey is gonna he felt at the box office for a long time.

Feige has done an amazing job of navigating the ship...but I think he might be getting a new job so it would be difficult shoes to fill

The goal will be passing the torch from the Avengers to the Young Avengers and continue with that storyline. If you start young enough by the time you hit the pay scale you’re talking about they will have the next lineup of Avengers ready to take over. Its the good thing about the Marvel Teams, the lineup is always changing.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The goal will be passing the torch from the Avengers to the Young Avengers and continue with that storyline. If you start young enough by the time you hit the pay scale you’re talking about they will have the next lineup of Avengers ready to take over. Its the good thing about the Marvel Teams, the lineup is always changing.

Comic book movies are always cyclical...That’s one of the amazing things about mcu.

Batman = huge
Schumacher = awful
Nolan = best comic movies ever
Wheedon/Snyder = terrible


It’s a hard formula to sustain with rollover

 

[Disney Irish]

Comic book movies are always cyclical...That’s one of the amazing things about mcu.

Batman = huge
Schumacher = awful
Nolan = best comic movies ever
Wheedon/Snyder = terrible


It’s a hard formula to sustain with rollover

The MCU is different though, it has effectively broke the mold with regards to comic book movies and even with franchises.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I’m good with Cavill. That is all.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The MCU is different though, it has effectively broke the mold with regards to comic book movies and even with franchises.

But could fall to the same phenomenon with more movies/saturation/changes.

It’s something to watch.

Feige is the most interesting price. Does he get promoted or studio chief? Or perhaps the head of a combined “action”
Unit?...taking over the problem child to go with the mcu?

We know Chappie loves consolidation/reorganization

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Nah...I’m gonna disagree...

I don’t think they need to go to tortured extremes on Wolverine...

Casting is important...but I’d like for them to make the X-men more of a team franchise...if even so they aren’t at the will of one actor down the road.

Look at avengers? Lost their best two because of pay and it doesn’t bode well for the future

If xmen goes as well as Avengers, Disney will be plenty happy. No matter who you cast, if they are a star or become a star there will be issues of them wanting to leave at some point. Youbare right, Xmen is more of an ensemble, my worry with them and all these Marvel films is that maybe people have reached saturation with them. I think doing less big group pictures and more character driven one offs is a better move, in my opinion. Give Magneto a whole movie just focusing on him hunting down mutant killers, stuff like that. We don't have to end every movie with a mega battle scenes and earth hanging in the balance.
One other note....Disney spent a decade trying to kill the xmen because they didn't own the film rights so they let the comics quietly hide while promoting their film related properties more. That has to effect it a bit too.