Haunted Mansion ride vehicle update

[maggiegrace1]

The thing I have a problem with is that after going to WDW for 33 years..I have NEVER ever heard any CM tell any guest that you can not hold kids on your lap or on some rides that there is a limit to a car or ride vehicle.

People keep saying the rules say this and the rules say that..well where are the rules?

Except for rides with height restrictions or warnings there are no posted rules..so unless the cast members enforce these so called rules that apparently only they know about how will anyone know what the rules are?

On some of the rides the safest place is to hold the child..and I have been doing this with Maggie since she was 7 months old on every ride..HM, POTC, Small World, Buzz and no one has ever told me not to do it..and when we first took her..it was Me, Drew, and my 14 year old niece all in one Doom Buggy with Maggie on my lap and we fit fine and no one told us we could not do that.

It seems to me that maybe they need to enfors the rules a little bit more if these are in fact rules..because otherwise like the first post said...some cast members have no problem with 3-4 in a car with a child on a lap and then some do..they need to be consistent.

 

[Laura]

Wow. I'd like to see you get payed $7.25 an hour to uphold safety guideleines set out by professionals. You obviously put me under the "complete moron" statement. Thanks for that.

Not THEY as in the employees enforcing the rules, obviously. I'm talking about the people who set the rules in the first place. They should know better than to think that an infant is capable of sitting unsupported in a seat on a jerky ride. They should not be allowing small children in the line if there is such an issue with trusting the parents to hold onto them.

Anyway, sorry for completely drifting the thread.

 

[Uponastar]

The thing I have a problem with is that after going to WDW for 33 years..I have NEVER ever heard any CM tell any guest that you can not hold kids on your lap or on some rides that there is a limit to a car or ride vehicle.

People keep saying the rules say this and the rules say that..well where are the rules?

Except for rides with height restrictions or warnings there are no posted rules..so unless the cast members enforce these so called rules that apparently only they know about how will anyone know what the rules are?

On some of the rides the safest place is to hold the child..and I have been doing this with Maggie since she was 7 months old on every ride..HM, POTC, Small World, Buzz and no one has ever told me not to do it..and when we first took her..it was Me, Drew, and my 14 year old niece all in one Doom Buggy with Maggie on my lap and we fit fine and no one told us we could not do that.

It seems to me that maybe they need to enfors the rules a little bit more if these are in fact rules..because otherwise like the first post said...some cast members have no problem with 3-4 in a car with a child on a lap and then some do..they need to be consistent.

Exactly.
Random enforcement only leads to confusion.
The CM stating that she was enforcing the rule because she didn't want to get written up wasn't exactly good show. I can understand her feelings, but I think she just could have said that boarding rules that had been flexible were now being more strictly enforced. The OP, although she wouldn't have liked it, would have at least had an explanation for the change.

 

[Eyorefan]

Why are people going on about the saftey of holding their kids in there lap? If you read the OP I think the CMs issue was that there were too many people in the car. I don't think it had anything to do with them not allowing the child to sit on the parent's lap. :shrug:

 

[donniedisney]

Wrong.
She was alerting all parents to a change in boarding at the HM. Anyone planning on taking a small child on the ride would be interested in reading about her experience.

Than she could have simply said "They dont allow lap seating anymore"

Instead of going on and on how the evil CM forced her to move back 5 cars when SHE DIDNT FOLLOW THE RULES IN THE FIRST PLACE!

 

[Uponastar]

Than she could have simply said "They dont allow lap seating anymore"

Instead of going on and on how the evil CM forced her to move back 5 cars when SHE DIDNT FOLLOW THE RULES IN THE FIRST PLACE!

Just what rules didn't she follow?
There are none posted.
She was following the same boarding process that she'd used the 5 times prior without question.
I'm not arguing with you. I'm just saying that the purpose of her starting this thread was to let others know that the boarding process changed in mid-trip for her and that others should be aware. If I was planning on taking a young child on that ride in the future, I would find this information very helpful.

 

[Chape19714]

Yeah, the reason is they are complete morons apparently. I'm not going to risk the safety of myself and my baby because of something that stupid.

Wow, I'm so completely offended. Yes I enforce the rules, but I also worked with the team that writes those rules, they are not morons, and I am not one either. We know the dangers, the guests don't, and guests shouldn't have to know, as long as they can follow instructions the day can go on safely. And by putting the baby on your lap after being told not to you are deliberately putting yourself and the baby in more danger.

I kindly suggest you go through months testing attractions and write some safety rules based on that just to be called a "complete moron". Thanks.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I didnt realise this site had so many ists.

 

[jt04]

Wow, I'm so completely offended. Yes I enforce the rules, but I also worked with the team that writes those rules, they are not morons, and I am not one either. We know the dangers, the guests don't, and guests shouldn't have to know, as long as they can follow instructions the day can go on safely. And by putting the baby on your lap after being told not to you are deliberately putting yourself and the baby in more danger.

I kindly suggest you go through months testing attractions and write some safety rules based on that just to be called a "complete moron". Thanks.

This is one of my favorite threads of all time, absolutely hilarious.

But on a serious note for all those "the baby is safest being held" crowd, there is a reason the law requires child safety seats in cars and absolutely forbids holding a small child while a passenger in a car. No matter how strong you are you will be thrown forward if you hit something even at slow speeds. You would be putting the baby between yourself and the dashboard and THIS IS NOT SAFE. So even though you think a ride is safe and goes "slow" it does not take much speed to cause you to slam forward if there was a malfunction. Plus the "lap bar" on HM is heavy and if the child was leaning forward there could be a nasty bump. So all you people claiming others are being mean, in fact we are being the compassionate ones. So have a nice day :wave:

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think what needs to happen on some rides without a height restriction is having a "no lap sitting" rule posted. Some examples of rides like this are Cat in the Hat at Islands of Adventure.

If the child is unable to sit on their own, then they shouldn't be on certain rides - it's not a matter of lap sitting being safer, it's a matter of neither being safe in the eyes of the themepark (and their insurers).

As for the Haunted Mansion, it could mean that your kids have gotten bigger, but what is more likely is that the particular CM was a stickler for the 2-3 guests per vehicle "rule".

 

[Dukeblue1016]

Let's look at it this way...

Jay Walking is against the law... except how many people a day do it??? Who here hasn't done it? Everyone does do it...

Now, I'm not saying "EVERYONE" puts kids on their laps... but I've seen it done several times before...

I believe OP's point in this entire thing is... "cops are starting to give out tickets to people for Jay Walking... HEY EVERYONE, HERE IS A HEADS UP..."


they in absolutely no way, shape, nor form were they trying to argue the rule or say "this is so dumb, i hate disney, blah blah blah disney is stupid because my husband had to sit way behind me..."

that is the exact OPPOSITE of what the OP is saying... and yet you get like 15 people who can't actually read a full post before their ADD kicks in and go on little tangents of their own and just reply to what they think is being said rather than logically thinking the process out...


so... the purpose of this was simple...

ANYONE WITH KIDS WHO GOES ON HM AND TRADITIONALLY PUTS THEIR CHILDREN ON YOUR LAP... PLEASE, BE ADVISED THAT THEY MAY NOT ALLOW YOU TO, AND SO THAT YOU AND YOUR SPOUSE DO NOT GET SEPERATED; JUST BE AWARE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING...


Isn't that fair?

So... maybe for every ten people who this means nothing to, instead of posting something rude and obnoxious... hold your thoughts because... there may be 1 who actually finds this information useful and will now know... hey I should look out for this in the future...


Thanks OP for sharing!

 

[nibblesandbits]

I can't believe the amount of people here who are being rude, rude, rude. I know this can be a bit of a hot button issue, but no where, in Mousefan's original post was she rude to any of you...

All she was trying to do was state that she learned about a policy that is obviously loosly enforced on her trip and posted her story as a heads up for others with children. No where in her post did I get the feeling that she was being a "bad" mother...nor do I think it is necessary for all of you who are ripping on her to keep beating her down about a rule, that quite honestly, in all the times I've ridden, I didn't know about. I've fit 3 adults in my doom buggie before and although it was a tight fit, I had no problems...no one told me we couldn't fit 3 full size adults in the car.

The point I'm trying to make is that this was supposed to be a post passing along information that was new to the OP...it was not an invitation for you all to bash her for her parenting skills.

And Dukeblue...nice post...(I can't believe I'm agreeing with you...*punches you for good measure* )

*gets off soapbox*

 

[Wiidrone]

Pum-as none of your smart a** remarks ever help anyone.
So keep them to yourself.

 

[jt04]

Pum-as none of your smart a** remarks ever help anyone.
So keep them to yourself.

Ummm, some of us love his comments, so please keep your "Pum-" disrespect to yourself.

 

[happymom52003]

I think another poster pointed this out already, but I'll do it again.

The problem was not the lap sitting. It was the number of people in the car.

Even in the loading rules for HM that someone posted there was NOTHING about not being allowed to put an infant or toddler in your lap.

This has turned into a lap seating debate and whether it is safe or not...alot of you are assuming there are "no lap sitting" rules on some of these rides when I do not think there are.

I am sure there are rides at amusement parks that do indeed have "no lap sitting" rules.

But I do not think the rides mentioned in this thread have that rule.:shrug:

Myself and countless others have pointed out that we have held our babies on these particular rides for years and have NEVER seen a sign saying not to, or been told not to by a CM.

So until someone presents some sort of proof that lap sitting is not allowed on these rides, those of you so against it really need to lay off.

 

[Laura]

Wow, I'm so completely offended. Yes I enforce the rules, but I also worked with the team that writes those rules, they are not morons, and I am not one either. We know the dangers, the guests don't, and guests shouldn't have to know, as long as they can follow instructions the day can go on safely. And by putting the baby on your lap after being told not to you are deliberately putting yourself and the baby in more danger.

I kindly suggest you go through months testing attractions and write some safety rules based on that just to be called a "complete moron". Thanks.

I sincerely apologize for the name calling. Clearly out of line on my behalf.

But my point still stands that the rule at that particular attraction is stupid and if Universal Studios was truly concerned with the safety of children they would put a height restriction up. I made an attempt to follow the regulations. Against my better judgement, I put my baby on the seat between myself and my husband as directed. When the ride started we attempted to restrain her in the seat with our hands, but it was impossible. She was violently being thrown around the car, slamming her head into the seat over and over and it was taking all of the effort of my husband and myself to prevent her from flying right out of the seat and landing on the floor. Due to my own TERROR, and fear of my baby ending up in the hospital with a concussion or a broken nose, I broke your "safety" rule and held her securely on my lap for the remainder of the ride. While seated on my lap she was perfectly fine and we all had a good time after that.

So please explain to me how having an infant thrown around the car completely unrestrained is considered safe?

This is one of my favorite threads of all time, absolutely hilarious.

But on a serious note for all those "the baby is safest being held" crowd, there is a reason the law requires child safety seats in cars and absolutely forbids holding a small child while a passenger in a car. No matter how strong you are you will be thrown forward if you hit something even at slow speeds. You would be putting the baby between yourself and the dashboard and THIS IS NOT SAFE. So even though you think a ride is safe and goes "slow" it does not take much speed to cause you to slam forward if there was a malfunction. Plus the "lap bar" on HM is heavy and if the child was leaning forward there could be a nasty bump. So all you people claiming others are being mean, in fact we are being the compassionate ones. So have a nice day :wave:

Do you see any car seats or child safety devices on the Haunted Mansion and Small World? Obviously if there were any they would be used. Since there are not, parents need to hold their babies in their arms. If you're riding on a Disney bus with a newborn baby, are you saying it's more safe to just set the baby on a seat, completely unrestrained, than to hold the baby in your arms?

I don't understand how you can be an advocate of having a child safely restrained on a ride, but when there are no restraints, you think the child is better off being completely UNrestrained than held by its mother?

I feel like I'm totally missing something here. I'm an extremely safety conscious person, almost to the point of neurosis sometimes, and I do not get this logic at all.

 

[WDWmom64055]

We're taking my 2 month old daughter and 2 1/2 year old son in two days, I'm pretty confident that I can use "the force" to cause the CM to allow all 4 of us in the buggy. I don't think letting my daughter ride on the ride on the seat and not in one of our laps would be a very good idea

LOL...hey, I dare you to try this if they call you on having 4 in a buggy. Hold the baby out toward the CM and ask him/her to secure the baby in the next buggy.

I only wish you were going next week...I'd ask you to meet up with us there so we could watch the show! :ROFLOL:

 

[Wiidrone]

Ummm, some of us love his comments, so please keep your "Pum-" disrespect to yourself.

This forum is for help & information not stupid comments.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Pum-as none of your smart a** remarks ever help anyone.
So keep them to yourself.

If it bothers you that much dont read them, I tend to avoid technical and boring posts, but Ive made an exception in your case.

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

This forum is for help & information not stupid comments.

When you own the site you can make the rules, but you've had your moments attention so trot on.