Haunted Mansion Restaurant

[HMF]

Between the Mansion and River of America would be the most logical place to have it whether the crypts are present or not. You have something against the crypts???

The interactive ones, yes. Here would be my ideal layout.

 

[drwadadli]

The interactive ones, yes. Here would be my ideal layout.

I think the crypts keep the kids entertained which is why I would keep them. Why remove the Tangled Tower? It has nothing to do with HM

 

[HMF]

I think the crypts keep the kids entertained which is why I would keep them. Why remove the Tangled Tower? It has nothing to do with HM

The Tangled Tower ruins sightlines in Liberty Square. as for the other thing.

 

[drwadadli]

The Tangled Tower ruins sightlines in Liberty Square. as for the other thing.

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So true quote......Adults play with the crypts as much as kids do!!!!!

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I think the crypts keep the kids entertained which is why I would keep them. Why remove the Tangled Tower? It has nothing to do with HM

I say remove some crypts, fix others and move the rest by the exit. The Tangle Tower is an unfortunate sight-line issue. Is there no way to hide it with a massive berm?

 

[peter11435]

WDI does what management tells it to. It is much closer to Disney Consumer Products than it is to WED Enterprises these days.

Obviously management tells departments what to do. I fully understand how WDI operates. But I can assure you that those working on the project were very passionate about what they were working on and happy with its outcome. I agree that the Mansion was better off without it, but it's not true to make a blanket statement that WDI didn't want it.

 

[peter11435]

The interactive ones, yes. Here would be my ideal layout.

You're cutting off a sizable chuck of queue by moving the entry. Where do you plan to make up for that queue capacity?

 

[drwadadli]

I say remove some crypts, fix others and move the rest by the exit. The Tangle Tower is an unfortunate sight-line issue. Is there no way to hide it with a massive berm?

They should be able to hide it.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

They should be able to hide it.

Agreed. Shame they haven't.

What if they repainted the tower on the side facing Liberty Square so that it looks like a church steeple then build up an old church facade around it. And further "hide" it from ground level view by using a newly built covered bridge walkway (taking design inspirations from The Legend of Sleepy Hollow).

 

[HMF]

I say remove some crypts, fix others and move the rest by the exit. The Tangle Tower is an unfortunate sight-line issue. Is there no way to hide it with a massive berm?

Each of the crypts has logical inconsistencies. As explained here.
https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/05/decadence.html

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Each of the crypts has logical inconsistencies. As explained here.
https://longforgottenhauntedmansion.blogspot.com/2011/05/decadence.html

Oh I agree. but that's not to say they can't fix some of them.

 

[HMF]

You're cutting off a sizable chuck of queue by moving the entry. Where do you plan to make up for that queue capacity?

The entrance will be moved as well. I am aiming to decrease the Mansions overall footprint on Liberty Square. and make the house look more imposing. See photos from 1971 for what I am talking about and the two trees on the lawn will be gone.

 

[HMF]

Oh I agree. but that's not to say they can't fix some of them.

How can they fix them?

 

[HMF]

Agreed. Shame they haven't.

What if they repainted the tower on the side facing Liberty Square so that it looks like a church steeple then build up an old church facade around it. And further "hide" it from ground level view by using a newly built covered bridge walkway (taking design inspirations from The Legend of Sleepy Hollow).

I wouldn't mind re-theming the area to serve as a thematic bridge between Liberty Square and Fantasyland.

 

[peter11435]

The entrance will be moved as well. I am aiming to decrease the Mansions overall footprint on Liberty Square. and make the house look more imposing. See photos from 1971 for what I am talking about and the two trees on the lawn will be gone.

I know you're moving the entrance, thus my question. By moving the entrance you are cutting out a large portion of the queue. Where do you plan to replace this?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

How can they fix them?

Redesign the family murder mystery busts so that they are less toony. Make crypts look more like weathered stone vs plastic. Re-purpose the "organist crypt" and place where captain cullpepper currently resides. Make it a parked gypsy caravan. Remove the hat, feet, and hands from the Captain Cullpepper crypt and place where leota headstone is now or nearest in direction to PotC, anchor the scene with a few tombstone cannons guests can "fire" in that general direction. Add an AA raven somewhere. Put Leota, Xavier and Marc's headstones in a place where guests must walk around them, a redesigned space with what should be adequate burial plot footage. Add a large weeping willow somewhere. A small pond with callback to mr. toad. All other interactive crypts should be placed at exit of ride.

Both queues should consist of non-interactive and interactive elements (indistinguishable) and should include some type of thematic landscaping and dare I say maybe even a well kept garden or a decaying one.

 

[Bocabear]

I know you're moving the entrance, thus my question. By moving the entrance you are cutting out a large portion of the queue. Where do you plan to replace this?

Using the Mike Fink Keelboats building, you could enter the Restaurant check in spot there, and create an additional walkway that would skirt the water, though elevated to walkway level, running alongside the queue, then swing in behind the PLQ to the actual restaurant entrance...

 

[PJBuckeye]

The Tangled Tower ruins sightlines in Liberty Square. as for the other thing.

So does that pesky Castle

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

The Queue was one part of the biggest examples of throwing away money in WDW history. If in doubt, go ask "The Puckish Gladhandler" or the "Oddly waifish man of anemic personality".

Did they specifically mention it being a waste of money? If so I find that very intriguing especially if they knew it was bad and why that hasn't influenced their decision to remove it.

 

[HMF]

Obviously management tells departments what to do. I fully understand how WDI operates. But I can assure you that those working on the project were very passionate about what they were working on and happy with its outcome. I agree that the Mansion was better off without it, but it's not true to make a blanket statement that WDI didn't want it.

Did they specifically mention it being a waste of money? If so I find that very intriguing especially if they knew it was bad and why that hasn't influenced their decision to remove it.

Disney rarely (if ever) publicly admits mistakes. Just read the press briefings about DCA 2.0. If MM+ was the amazing success Rasulo and Staggs thought it would be. Why aren't they still with the company?