Harry Potter train work maybe to start?

alissafalco

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In a word, Yes. This is a brand new tech being used in theme parks and is VERY VERY expensive. According to some the initial tests went well but caused motion sickness due to the field of depth and imagery being shown.

They better have vomit bags in the train like they do on airplanes :p To the other OP I thought it was already confirmed that you have to have a 2 park pass to ride the train.
 

JT3000

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They better have vomit bags in the train like they do on airplanes :p To the other OP I thought it was already confirmed that you have to have a 2 park pass to ride the train.

Nothing's actually been confirmed. Universal still hasn't said a word about this project. Although I don't see why people should need a 2 park ticket to ride. There are ways around that. For example, putting park hoppers in one compartment and everyone else in another. Then when the train reaches the other park, open the doors only for the park hoppers. As long as there's two different experiences, one for each direction, I think people would be okay with a round trip.
 

alissafalco

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Nothing's actually been confirmed. Universal still hasn't said a word about this project. Although I don't see why people should need a 2 park ticket to ride. There are ways around that. For example, putting park hoppers in one compartment and everyone else in another. Then when the train reaches the other park, open the doors only for the park hoppers. As long as there's two different experiences, one for each direction, I think people would be okay with a round trip.

I highly doubt Uni will do that. They are not going to let people just ride the train back and forth. This is considered a "ride" not Amtrack. You will have to get off when it is over. The line would never end if they let people just ride back and forth. Also, this a a great way for UNI to make you buy a park hopper. They are not dumb, they are there to make $$.
 

GLaDOS

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I highly doubt Uni will do that. They are not going to let people just ride the train back and forth. This is considered a "ride" not Amtrack. You will have to get off when it is over. The line would never end if they let people just ride back and forth. Also, this a a great way for UNI to make you buy a park hopper. They are not dumb, they are there to make $$.

If there are still one day-one park tickets after this, people with one day tickets will be able to ride. The complaint list would be enormous if not. Universal doesn't want to deal with that.
 

alissafalco

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If there are still one day-one park tickets after this, people with one day tickets will be able to ride. The complaint list would be enormous if not. Universal doesn't want to deal with that.

I'm betting you're wrong on that one. They will not care, if you want to ride the train then buy a park hopper. Thats what they will tell you. Mark my words.
 

JT3000

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I highly doubt Uni will do that. They are not going to let people just ride the train back and forth. This is considered a "ride" not Amtrack. You will have to get off when it is over. The line would never end if they let people just ride back and forth. Also, this a a great way for UNI to make you buy a park hopper. They are not dumb, they are there to make $$.

If the train goes between parks, it is a form of transportation, not simply a ride. And I didn't say you'd be able to ride endlessly in my theoretical. The people with tickets to a single park would get off when they return to that park. Not that complicated.

Expanding Potter into USF is certainly a strategy to increase that park's attendance and encourage park hopping, but they still have to cater to people with single park tickets. Not doing so would result in a loss of $$$.
 

Rob562

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If the train goes between parks, it is a form of transportation, not simply a ride. And I didn't say you'd be able to ride endlessly in my theoretical. The people with tickets to a single park would get off when they return to that park. Not that complicated.

Expanding Potter into USF is certainly a strategy to increase that park's attendance and encourage park hopping, but they still have to cater to people with single park tickets. Not doing so would result in a loss of $$$.

Actually, I'm not sure that doing a half-and-half train would work from a logistical standpoint.

Let's say you load the train in USF. The front half are people who have park-hoppers and will be allowed to get off the train at IOA. The back half are single-park people who are riding for a round-trip.

When the train gets to IOA, the front half empties and the back half remains. But now you have people coming from IOA to load onto the train. Those people will also be made up of some riding round-trip and some riding one-way. You'd have to put the round-trip people in the now-empty front half, and try and fit the one-ways in with the USF round-trippers in the back. And once you open the doors for the USF round-trippers, you all of a sudden introduce people hopping off and trying to get out into the park.

Groupers on the platform wouldn't be able to efficiently group people for each car to maximize capacity like the express and Epcot platform monorail CMs at WDW. It would have to be an open free-for-all like the Resort monorail platforms.

The best logistical situation would be to empty the train out every time it pulls into a station, and make anyone who wants to ride round-trip get out and get in line again for the return.


And if they require a park-hopper ticket, they'd better include a way of adding park-hopping to your ticket there at the stations, either a staffed Guest Services window, or a ticket kiosk. Otherwise you'll have some pretty ticked off Guests when they're told they have to hike back to the front entrance to upgrade their tickets...

-Rob
 

lazyboy97o

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I'm betting you're wrong on that one. They will not care, if you want to ride the train then buy a park hopper. Thats what they will tell you. Mark my words.
The problem though is that you invite a lot of misunderstanding. Hogwarts Express would always be inside of the other park.
 

AswaySuller

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I can't see them having carriages for one park and another for two.. Allowing one park ticket holders to ride back and forth....

Surely that'd mean one park ticket holders only have to line up once where two dayers (who will have paid more for their tickets) would have To line up twice!!!

Universal already sell universal express meaning some guests pay more to get privileges.... I don't see why this would be any different.... This ain't Disney!
 

lazyboy97o

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I can't see them having carriages for one park and another for two.. Allowing one park ticket holders to ride back and forth....

Surely that'd mean one park ticket holders only have to line up once where two dayers (who will have paid more for their tickets) would have To line up twice!!!
You could place the queue outside of the gates, and make people get back in line.
 

alissafalco

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The problem though is that you invite a lot of misunderstanding. Hogwarts Express would always be inside of the other park.

Not really, I'm sure it will be posted all over the park and website, and told to you when you buy your tickets that if you want to ride the train you must buy a park hopper. Believe me you will know, this will be no secret. Exactly, Hogwarts will always be inside of the other park, that's why you will have to buy a park hopper to get there!
 

alissafalco

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Why? It'd offer a visible incentive to upgrade the admission to a park hopper. "Get back in line, as we told you, or upgrade and see all of this other cool stuff in front of you."

Um, no....It's "if you want to ride the train you have to buy a park hopper"or "If you buy a 1 day pass the train is not included". Just like you have to pay extra if you want to go in the fast line, you will have to pay extra (park hopper) if you want to ride the train.
 

AswaySuller

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I don't see it as being any different to Disney's EMH's...

I rarely stay at a Disney resort so I don't get to enjoy EMH's, am I ed about it? No! I accept that privileges come at a premium and if I wanted EMH's I'd have to stay on property.

I guess no one can say just yet.... I doubt Universal even have even ironed out those details yet.
 

Skunk

Member
In a word, Yes. This is a brand new tech being used in theme parks and is VERY VERY expensive. According to some the initial tests went well but caused motion sickness due to the field of depth and imagery being shown.

Eh?

So is this supposed to be like Nintendo 3DS tech on larger screens?
 

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