Don't they shoot the pyro away from the park?
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donsullivan
Premium Member
Occasional brush fires during and after fireworks is not a result of the dry conditions here in central FL right now, it has always happened for as long as they have had nightly fireworks shows. This is absolutely nothing new. Is it a little worse this year, maybe but I have seen no facts with which I could conclude that.
The issue is there are now 2 locations on property where it might happen vs one and the firefighters are having to work a little more to support a second launch site. And as a result, the union (which has been fighting with Disney lately) is trying to use this as an issue to build their case.
There is NOTHING that suggests there is any issue warranting any change in behavior by Disney, despite the dry conditions.
The issue is there are now 2 locations on property where it might happen vs one and the firefighters are having to work a little more to support a second launch site. And as a result, the union (which has been fighting with Disney lately) is trying to use this as an issue to build their case.
There is NOTHING that suggests there is any issue warranting any change in behavior by Disney, despite the dry conditions.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Yes, that would be the 'North Launch Area'.
The area directly south of this pin is the launch area:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/2...m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d28.423796!4d-81.581381
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Except that Reedy Creek literally said that it was due to the dry conditions.
donsullivan
Premium Member
To be precise, Reedy Creek did not say it, the representative of the union said it which is a very, very different thing. The exact quote is:
“All of Central Florida is burning right now, there’s a fire ban going. I don’t mind them shooting off pyrotechnics, (they) just need to do more prevention,” said Tim Stromsnes, president of the Reedy Creek Fire & Rescue IAFF Local 2117.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
It's not different. Stromsnes is their representative and is speaking on their behalf.
"”We’ve been out there for hours upon hours with multiple fires going on” — about 30 in the past two months."
GotEarsSayCheers
Member
All the fires have originated from Hollywood Studios, not the Magic Kingdom.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Actually it is different. He's speaking on behalf of the union which has an agenda not on behalf of the district.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
In your opinion.
Even if that were true, that makes 30 fires in three months better how?
peter11435
Well-Known Member
It's not really an opinion. He is not a spokesman for Reedy Creek Improvemnt District and he does not represent them. Nothing he says is on the districts behalf. He represents the union. There is a big difference.
What you are implying would be like saying that the president of one of the WDW labor unions statements was on belalf of WDW. It doesn't work that way.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Who's the spokesman for the Reedy Creek Improvement District?
GotEarsSayCheers
Member
I'm not saying its better, and I don't think any fires are a good thing. But you cant bash the Magic Kingdom for upping the pyro when they aren't the ones causing the fires.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Any district employee authotized to be speaking on behalf of the district.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
I see what you did there.
Who specifically is the authorized employee who speaks on behalf of the district?
peter11435
Well-Known Member
And I see that you are just purposefully being difficult.
The authorized employee could be anyone that the district authorized to speak on their behalf. In this case this individual was speaking on behalf of the union which the article clearly states. Speaking on behalf of the union is not the same thing as speaking on behalf of the district. I know you are intelligent enough to understand the difference.
Organizstions and their labor unions rarely see eye to eye nor do they have the same interests.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
No, I'm absolutely not being difficult. You said "He is not a spokesman for Reedy Creek Improvemnt District and he does not represent them." I'm asking you who is if he is not.
You then circled around it so you didn't have to directly reply to my comment with "Any district employee authotized to be speaking on behalf of the district."
Which is the exact opposite of what you said before.
If your claim is that Tim Stromsnes is not the spokesman, and you know that for a fact then you must know who the real spokesman is.
So, who is it?
Consistent = argumentative. Just because he may not know who the "official" spokesperson is, doesn't mean you have to keep badgering him about it. He mentioned that you are intelligent enough to know the difference between the union and the district. If you are really that concerned, here are the people that you may contact for more information:
John Classe, District Administrator
Phone: (407)934-7480
Ann Blakeslee, Deputy District Administrator
Phone: (407)828-3548
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Asking questions is not badgering, and I'm not badgering him but you're welcome to report me if you're offended. In fact, I recommend that you do. He said "Any district employee authotized to be speaking on behalf of the district." and that Tim Stromsnes "is not a spokesman for Reedy Creek Improvemnt District and he does not represent them."
Tim Stromsnes however often speaks on behalf of Reedy Creek and Reedy Creek employees, and is employed by Reedy Creek. Google it.
I do know the difference between a union and a district, but it's nothing more than an opinion that Tim doesn't speak for the district as well.
If you have a problem with me, boo hoo. Take it to the admins or go away.
So you honestly believe this isn't badgering????
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Correct.