Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

[mickEblu]

What references to Tower of Terror are found on Buena Vista Street? The only thing I can think of is the Silver Lake Sisters reference to appearing at the Tip Top Club on a poster above the Creamer n' Sugar counter in Starbucks. Did they already take these posters down? I rarely go into that Starbucks because it's way too busy and the lines are long.

Where else on Buena Vista Street was Tower of Terror mentioned? I can't think of any other references elsewhere in the park. Mostly it was just a giant and weird looking building that loomed on the horizon and kinda made no sense to whatever winery, wharf, tiny bugs, ocean pier, desert highway, mountain airfield, etc., etc. that it visually intruded upon.

I think just inside the Red Car Trolley.

 

[mickEblu]

This is not Disney stepping up their game. This is recycling. This is a cash-grab overlay. This is lipstick on a pig. This is like trying to improve the staidness of the Louvre by adding Pachinko machines. That building overlay is a festering boil they're trying to pass off as brilliance.

And if I want chaos, I can just try to walk up Main Street after the fireworks!

Yeah I think a better example of Disney stepping up their game will be Star Wars Land. GOTG:MB is not that but it is everything you say IMO

 

[Curious Constance]

This is not Disney stepping up their game. This is recycling. This is a cash-grab overlay. This is lipstick on a pig. This is like trying to improve the staidness of the Louvre by adding Pachinko machines. That building overlay is a festering boil they're trying to pass off as brilliance.

And if I want chaos, I can just try to walk up Main Street after the fireworks!

But you can't compare the TOT to the Louvre with a straight face. TOT was the original lipstick and DCA was the original pig.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

This is not Disney stepping up their game. This is recycling. This is a cash-grab overlay. This is lipstick on a pig. This is like trying to improve the staidness of the Louvre by adding Pachinko machines. That building overlay is a festering boil they're trying to pass off as brilliance.

If it works out the way Disney anticipates, that is if MB is a runaway smash hit, and it certainly looks like it will be, then I would argue that it solidifies the strategy as a path forward for lipstick on pigs and festering boils.

 

[PiratesoftheHM]

If it works out the way Disney anticipates, that is if MB is a runaway smash hit, and it certainly looks like it will be, then I would argue that it solidifies the strategy as a path forward for lipstick on pigs and festering boils.

In what way does it "certainly seem like it will be"? Look at anything Disney posts about it and there more negative comments than any other thing they ever post. Not saying the reaction is entirely negative but there a lot of people, not just us, who will look at this ride with a critical eye because of the situation and if it sucks (which the exterior most certainly does) they'll call it out.

 

[yookeroo]

In what way does it "certainly seem like it will be"? Look at anything Disney posts about it and there more negative comments than any other thing they ever post. Not saying the reaction is entirely negative but there a lot of people, not just us, who will look at this ride with a critical eye because of the situation and if it sucks (which the exterior most certainly does) they'll call it out.

In the grand scheme of things, commenters on a blog post aren't really a lot. They probably don't represent Disney fandom as a who,e very accurately.

 

[mickEblu]

In what way does it "certainly seem like it will be"? Look at anything Disney posts about it and there more negative comments than any other thing they ever post. Not saying the reaction is entirely negative but there a lot of people, not just us, who will look at this ride with a critical eye because of the situation and if it sucks (which the exterior most certainly does) they'll call it out.

Even if and most likely when it is successful (people aren't going to all of sudden stop enjoying the free falling sensation no matter what ride is themed to) it doesn't make this a good long term strategy. The problem here is two fold. They way they disregarded theme in a huge way with this 20 story structure and the future strategy for the parks which is rumored under Chapek to be overlaying attractions every 10 years. This kills Nostalgia and folks would begin losing their emotional ties to the parks. Kind of like how I am good going to USH once every 4-5 years to see what's new and I have an AP to DL. Even though I have many memories at USH as a child I have no emotional ties because nothing over their is untouchable except the Studio Tour it seems. Of course, part of this is that they don't have Disneys IP catalogue and just don't have enough to do.

I have a feeling the strategy for the resort may be that DL is where the nostalgia is preserved because of its history and DCA is the blank slate where they can just plug and play with new attractions.

The fact that the new tower is ugly is up for debate... I suppose.

 

[mickEblu]

In the grand scheme of things, commenters on a blog post aren't really a lot. They probably don't represent Disney fandom as a who,e very accurately.

This hasn't just been blog posts though. The backlash on social media is pretty outrageous and consists of a much larger and diverse group than us super fans on sites like this and people who comment and blogs.

 

[Curious Constance]

I think that can be hard to gage too. Someone compelled to voice their disapproval about this on social media, isn't the general public. I bet most of the general public aren't aware this is evening happening.

I work with a big Disney fan. She LOVES Disneyland. I just informed her of this change last week. She hadn't heard about it.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Yeah I think a better example of Disney stepping up their game will be Star Wars Land.

I meant stepping up their game by going from a dusty old TV franchise to a new-ish movie one that is massively popular with all ages, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Not to mention this stuff is non-traditional for Disney in that it's centered around irreverent superheros rather than Princesses and cutesy side-kicks. So yes, I would call it a game changer.

 

[Cesar R M]

Adventure movies can take place in modern times, you know like all the adventure movies with Arnold and Fast and Furious car drivers?

Adventure does not mean limited to jungles on other non-USA continents.

Those are not adventure movies, they are ACTION movies. vastly different.

 

[mickEblu]

I think that can be hard to gage too. Someone compelled to voice their disapproval about this on social media, isn't the general public. I bet most of the general public aren't aware this is evening happening.

I work with a big Disney fan. She LOVES Disneyland. I just informed her of this change last week. She hadn't heard about it.

This is where I always get confused. If people on social media aren't the general public then who is? If you read the comments many of them do not sound like they are coming from folks who can name the WED imagineers by name. A lot of them sound like casual Disney park fans. Are casual Disney park fans not the general public?

 

[mickEblu]

I meant stepping up their game by going from a dusty old TV franchise to a new-ish movie one that is massively popular with all ages, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Not to mention this stuff is non-traditional for Disney in that it's centered around irreverent superheros rather than Princesses and cutesy side-kicks. So yes, I would call it a game changer.

Eh. I wouldn't call this a game changer. Indiana Jones and Star Tours were game changers. This is a rushed overlay of a an attraction that didn't need it. Twilight zone had proven staying power and GOTG is hot right now but if it's still popular in 40 years that would be surprising to me. Also TOT had no princesses or cutesy side kicks. (Im looking at you baby Groot).

 

[Curious Constance]

This is where I always get confused. If people on social media aren't the general public then who is? If you read the comments many of them do not sound like they are coming from folks who can name the WED imagineers by name. A lot of them sound like casual Disney park fans. Are casual Disney park fans not the general public?

Everyone in existence is part of the general public. I was just saying that people who are commenting on social media about this, their opinions probably don't accurately represent the majority of the public opinion. I'd bet that most people haven't heard about this change much, if at all. Plus only those fired up about this (*cough* MickEblu *cough*) are likely to go out of their way to make a comment either way. Those in the middle, who don't have much of an opinion probably are remaining silent.

I'd say that the majority of Disney extreme fans might not be happy with this change, but that's a small number of the general population over all.

 

[Rich T]

But you can't compare the TOT to the Louvre with a straight face. TOT was the original lipstick and DCA was the original pig.

...okay, but I'm sticking with comparing the new Tower exterior to Pachinko machines.

 

[Rich T]

If it works out the way Disney anticipates, that is if MB is a runaway smash hit, and it certainly looks like it will be, then I would argue that it solidifies the strategy as a path forward for lipstick on pigs and festering boils.

But...but... it could be so much BETTER than this! It'll be a hit because it was a fun ride to begin with and they're slapping a hot IP on it. I'm sure you're right and it *will* point the way toward more cheap IP overlays versus building great new attractions to increase capacity.

 

[Donaldfan1934]

Spoiler

Doesn't seem to have any direct relationship to the ride, but this made my day.

 

[Rich T]

In the grand scheme of things, commenters on a blog post aren't really a lot. They probably don't represent Disney fandom as a who,e very accurately.

I think they represent the core Disney fans, but not the casual Disney fans who make up probably 95% of the customer base. A core Disney fan buys books about the history of Disneyland. A casual fan sees Moana once, enjoys it, and gets on with their life.

 

[Rich T]

I'm calling it now: The next show at the Hyperion is gonna be Thor: The Musical.

 

[mickEblu]

Everyone in existence is part of the general public. I was just saying that people who are commenting on social media about this, their opinions probably don't accurately represent the majority of the public opinion. I'd bet that most people haven't heard about this change much, if at all. Plus only those fired up about this (*cough* MickEblu *cough*) are likely to go out of their way to make a comment either way. Those in the middle, who don't have much of an opinion probably are remaining silent.

I'd say that the majority of Disney extreme fans might not be happy with this change, but that's a small number of the general population over all.

If you read some of those comments on social media, many are not the novels we post here on why it is or isn't a good idea. They are short comments to the point that to me don't come off as super fans complaining. At best the majority of people are indifferent about this project.