Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind SPOILER Thread

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James Alucobond

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Epcot82Guy said:
My main issue is the focus is being taken off the countries. Off the real world. The new attractions focus on the characters - not the country. So, they muddy the focus of the showcase. There is a significant difference between "showcasing", "celebrating", "set in" and "lightly referencing" (examples being Canada Far & Wide, American Adventure, Rat and Frozen Ever After respectively).
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I don’t particularly love IP in World Showcase, but I feel like they got the order of operations more correct than in the front of the park. It’s a cultural mullet; business in the front, party in the back. The stories inspired by those cultures feel like they’re presented by those cultures, and fantasy elements are tucked away inside of buildings or around hidden corners.

I much prefer the frame being Norway with a Frozen attraction than the frame being Nemo with an aquarium on the side.
 
Anteater

Anteater

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MisterPenguin said:
In a park that had only 7, and then 9 rides...

I thought everyone complained about whiplash on that ride.

Well, if you miss it, there's one like it. In fact, you can see it spins exactly like CR spins!!!....

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No theming. Meh.
I really liked the one at AK. The jokes and site gags on the ride were really good. I never had a problem with whiplash, myself. And, I'm a whip when it comes to roller coasters.
 
Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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James Alucobond said:
I don’t particularly love IP in World Showcase, but I feel like they got the order of operations more correct than in the front of the park. It’s a cultural mullet; business in the front, party in the back. The stories inspired by those cultures feel like they’re presented by those cultures, and fantasy elements are tucked away inside of buildings or around hidden corners.

I much prefer the frame being Norway with a Frozen attraction than the frame being Nemo with an aquarium on the side.
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I agree. They could fix WS thematically much easier than what has happened in the front of the park.
 
EricsBiscuit

EricsBiscuit

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Some more thoughts after riding it 5 times:

- there is funny audio that plays when you get stuck. For example, on the first “lift hill” (launch hill?) the Tal Meric (spelling?) character says they have to open the air lock manually, and they have never done it before and they can’t find the instructions. If you’re stuck for another minute, he says how they have to manually crank the shaft open, etc etc. Super funny!

- the gravity building is so cold that years run from your eyes (tears for fears? Lol)

- I thought only having one pre show area was going to be a bottleneck but I don’t think it will be after seeing it going with a full queue for AP previews today

- I asked and apparently each train is assigned a random song each ride through vs each train having a permanent song.

- there is not a huge space between unload and load. The trains go strait from unload to load which means there can be a delay if the unload takes too long.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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RSoxNo1 said:
Seriously though, where did all of these Primeval Whirl apologists come from?
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I'm surprised you're surprised! The ride was always popular, and even this forum was full of people who said they would be sad to see it go.

I personally don't understand why because I didn't like it at all, but it's standard for roller coasters -- which was my whole point that started this conversation to begin with. If you're building a coaster, a lot of people are going to think it's fun unless you've failed miserably.
 
Epcot82Guy

Epcot82Guy

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I actually quite enjoyed Chester and Hester's idea. It just wasn't carried out far enough. Some of the sight gags on PW when it originally opened (and worked) were quite clever. It was just done on the cheap (even for a "roadside attraction"), and that hurt it. If the story was a little more obvious, there had been a bit more to do and the theme pushed to more quality/detail, I think it actually would have been quite successful.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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Epcot82Guy said:
I actually quite enjoyed Chester and Hester's idea. It just wasn't carried out far enough. Some of the sight gags on PW when it originally opened (and worked) were quite clever. It was just done on the cheap (even for a "roadside attraction"), and that hurt it. If the story was a little more obvious, there had been a bit more to do and the theme pushed to more quality/detail, I think it actually would have been quite successful.
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I agree with this. I really liked Chester and Hester's and thought it completed the rather satirically witty story of Dinoland. I'd have loved to see an additional, more elaborate ride - perhaps a dark ride where "real" dinos from the Institute start breaking into the cheesy roadside attraction full of flimsy, 2-D cutouts. I didn't much care for PW, but it embellished an area I enjoyed.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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I think Chester and Hester's was incredibly well themed (despite people suggesting otherwise). It was very obviously themed to a roadside tourist trap/carnival and it hit the nail on the head with that theming.

The problem is that it's not a very good theme for an area of an expensive theme park. I was not a fan, not because it wasn't well executed, but because it's not something I care about seeing at Disney. I can see it all over the US.

Storybook Circus has a somewhat similar problem, although that kind of circus doesn't really exist anymore so there's at least an avenue there for an idealized nostalgic version. It's still not something I really care about seeing at a theme park, though -- and I don't think Storybook Circus is as well themed as Chester and Hester's.
 
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Incomudro

Incomudro

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Epcot82Guy said:
I actually quite enjoyed Chester and Hester's idea. It just wasn't carried out far enough. Some of the sight gags on PW when it originally opened (and worked) were quite clever. It was just done on the cheap (even for a "roadside attraction"), and that hurt it. If the story was a little more obvious, there had been a bit more to do and the theme pushed to more quality/detail, I think it actually would have been quite successful.
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Yes, as a dinosaur fan since childhood (I'm 58 now) when liking dinosaurs was decidedly odd - I got the theme of Dinoland and Chester and Hester's immediately and liked it a lot.
Now, I had little personal use for the carnival part because I just don't play those games or ride those rides.
But I did love the whole things, and my son's climbed around the boneyard for at least our first two trips, before they felt like they aged out.
 
Casper Gutman

Casper Gutman

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UNCgolf said:
I think Chester and Hester's was incredibly well themed (despite people suggesting otherwise). It was very obviously themed to a roadside tourist trap/carnival and it hit the nail on the head with that theming.

The problem is that it's not a very good theme for an area of an expensive theme park. I was not a fan, not because it wasn't well executed, but because it's not something I care about seeing at Disney. I can see it all over the US.

Storybook Circus has a somewhat similar problem, although that kind of circus doesn't really exist anymore so there's at least an avenue there for an idealized nostalgic version. It's still not something I really care about seeing at a theme park, though -- and I don't think Storybook Circus is as well themed as Chester and Hester's.
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I think C&H did quite well at the Disney park mission of creating a place that is more real then the real thing. Yes, it felt like a roadside carnival, but no roadside carnival I've ever seen was as well kept up, as consistently (if garishly) themed, or featured as many substantial, three-dimensional themed figures. As I said, I'd have loved it if they could have taken it further, but as it stood, it was well-done, a necessary punchline to the areas (somewhat self-mocking) satire regarding the commercialization of science.

As to SC, my problem there is that during there golden age, circuses were absolutely, gloriously mammoth things that would give even a major theme park a run for its money in terms of scope and variety. I feel SC is only a pale shadow of that reality - and, of course, the real thing should always be a pale shadow of the Disney version.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Casper Gutman said:
I think C&H did quite well at the Disney park mission of creating a place that is more real then the real thing. Yes, it felt like a roadside carnival, but no roadside carnival I've ever seen was as well kept up, as consistently (if garishly) themed, or featured as many substantial, three-dimensional themed figures. As I said, I'd have loved it if they could have taken it further, but as it stood, it was well-done, a necessary punchline to the areas (somewhat self-mocking) satire regarding the commercialization of science.

As to SC, my problem there is that during there golden age, circuses were absolutely, gloriously mammoth things that would give even a major theme park a run for its money in terms of scope and variety. I feel SC is only a pale shadow of that reality - and, of course, the real thing should always be a pale shadow of the Disney version.
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I agree -- that's why I said it's very well themed -- I just don't think it works in a theme park and that's why I didn't like it. Storybook Circus has the same problem, although the execution there is nowhere near as good as the execution at Chester and Hester's.
 

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