Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic Rewind SPOILER Thread

[doctornick]

Absolutely love the fact that when there's an unscheduled stop on the lift hill, that they've got a pre-recorded audio and video shot of Terry Crews explaining that there's a pause because an airlock isn't closed properly and they're trying to figure it out. I'm sure somebody from the 'Coaster in a box society' will quip "Half a billion dollars for a message like that" but that's ok?

Disney has definitely gotten better at keeping ride stops and delays “in theme” and more seamlessly part of the experience.

 

[kalel8145]

Yes, as Eson goes back in time to erase Earth (he has no Power Stone to just one-punch it, so, he steals the power maguffin), the Xandarian ships don't have the power to follow him, but the escape pods do with their emergency power. So, the escape pods are sent after him as a way for the Xandarians from their home world to track where Eson is and stop him.

Boy, are we lucky the Xandarians set up a cultural pavilion in EPCOT!

Sounds cool. Sorta of a Marvel movie set up. Can't wait to ride it. Working out my refresh finger for that virtual queue.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

So they justify the unification of Terrans and Xandar by explaining our planets were both created by the Big Bang. We are invited to travel to their world through hex jumps, powered by the Cosmic Generator. In the preshow, a celestial named Eson steals the generator, looking to erase the Earth from existence. He believes we as a race have made the galaxy impure, and uses the quantum generator to create a portal in time, back to the big bang, to erase the earth from existence. Rocket notices our evacuation shuttles are the only thing small enough to fit through the remaining piece of the portal to the big bang, and reprograms them to take us in, with the Guardians in tow.

I wish even half of this was explained/made more obvious in the pre show and queue. Especially the stuff with Eson, he just kinda shows up. While I’m at it the look of things “rewinding” in the one promotional video that was put out was cool, yet it’s entirely missing in the attraction. Imagine if things actively started disappearing in the pre show room to make Eson seem like more of a threat. Have Terry Crews rewind out of existence and then make a comedic return at the end of the attraction for a last laugh. Stuff writes itself, but the story line here still feels like it went through 50 rewrites.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

The queue or the pre show area has a clip of Walt detailing Epcot

 

[mergatroid]

So you travel back in time to follow the Celestial and stop him with the help of the Guardians?

Indeed, it's explained in the pre-show in a fairly simple way. Esson explains it's not where he's going but rather when. I've tried linking this video at the point of the explanation at the 4:34 mark

 

[mergatroid]

I wish even half of this was explained/made more obvious in the pre show and queue. Especially the stuff with Eson, he just kinda shows up. While I’m at it the look of things “rewinding” in the one promotional video that was put out was cool, yet it’s entirely missing in the attraction. Imagine if things actively started disappearing in the pre show room to make Eson seem like more of a threat. Have Terry Crews rewind out of existence and then make a comedic return at the end of the attraction for a last laugh. Stuff writes itself, but the story line here still feels like it went through 50 rewrites.

It's in the pre-show here, he's says exactly what's happening.

 

[kalel8145]

Indeed, it's explained in the pre-show in a fairly simple way. Esson explains it's not where he's going but rather when. I've tried linking this video at the point of the explanation at the 4:34 mark

Awesome. Thanks for the video.

 

[Hawg G]

You find the plot of CR complex? A bad guy has a device you need to get from him and that's pretty much it.

My math isn't way off, ok it's $10 million over but as people have changed CR's budget to half a billion ($50-80 million over it's cost), $10 million doesn't seem like an amount people care about. I said if you're SELECTIVE with your Potter movies it comes to $300 million.

Hagrid's ride = $300 million

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone = $125 million
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets = $100 million
Harry Potter and the order of the Phoenix = $85 million

Three movies = $310 million

The HP movies used non cutting edge FX, kids tied down for long contracts, and reused a TON of sets.

 

[999th Happy Haunt]

It's in the pre-show here, he's says exactly what's happening.

What is? Eson isn’t even given a name here, unless I missed something since his voice isn’t that easy to understand. Either way, he doesn’t seem like much of a threat. I get the story after reading it here, but I think it might be hard for most guests.

 

[Hawg G]

Coaster with seven launches, fast switch track, two drop tracks, animatronics, themed queue, onboard sound and lights.

Other than that its a roller coaster with trees

And like 10 trains.

 

[mergatroid]

The HP movies used non cutting edge special effects reused a huge part of sets, and probably got the actors tied down for long term, lower, salaries.

To be honest I watched the first one and it wasn't my thing, a very popular franchise and I'm in the minority of those not into it. The money it's made and the crazy following it has just kind of proves it's an all time great franchise, I can't deny that. It really doesn't matter what they cost, they were great movies and how they did it and on whatever budget worked.

Whilst I don't like the movies, I enjoy visiting the lands and the rides are very good. I don't worry too much about the dialogue either, they're fun rides which I've said many times since they opened.

 

[TheEPCOTHistorian]

Eson isn’t even given a name here, unless I missed something

He's from Eternals, so I think it's sort of an "if you know, you know" thing, like Galaxy's Edge.

 

[mergatroid]

What is? Eson isn’t even given a name here, unless I missed something since his voice isn’t that easy to understand. Either way, he doesn’t seem like much of a threat. I get the story after reading it here, but I think it might be hard for most guests.

He's a Celestial which are featured in the MCU. If people don't know him then I think the pre-show still works as he's obviously a bad guy, but that's just my take on it. Eson is actually named several times in the ride.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

He's from Eternals, so I think it's sort of an "if you know, you know" thing, like Galaxy's Edge.

He’s not from Eternals, the idea of a celestial has been established in the Guardians movies and then yes they were in Eternals too, but Eson was created for this ride

 

[Casper Gutman]

So they justify the unification of Terrans and Xandar by explaining our planets were both created by the Big Bang. We are invited to travel to their world through hex jumps, powered by the Cosmic Generator. In the preshow, a celestial named Eson steals the generator, looking to erase the Earth from existence. He believes we as a race have made the galaxy impure, and uses the quantum generator to create a portal in time, back to the big bang, to erase the earth from existence. Rocket notices our evacuation shuttles are the only thing small enough to fit through the remaining piece of the portal to the big bang, and reprograms them to take us in, with the Guardians in tow.

Yes, I'm fully aware of the convoluted back story. My question is, why deal with time travel at all? What effect does it have on the ride experience, physically or aesthetically? If you set up time travel at great length as your attractions central plot element, you expect it to have some impact on the ride experience. This would literally be the same ride if you were chasing Eson through space. I'd bet a not-insignificant amount of money that a lot of effects highlighting the "Cosmic Rewind," time travel aspect of the ride were cut.

Also, as I pointed out, we inexplicably see Eson jump back to the big bang twice - he does so in the preshow (taking Earth??? with him for some reason) and then, inexplicably, in the first scene of the ride, we jump with Eson again.

Also also, we are chasing Eson to track him for the Guardians... who arrive immediately, so that plot point is totally discarded.

Also also also, I know we don't care about the MCU here, but its kind of absurd that the plot of this ride completely negates the first 20 years of films, since if the Guardians had access to unlimited time travel after the first film, the ENTIRE PLOT of Infinity War and Endgame is nullified. This is even funnier because the time travel serves no purpose in the ride!

I don't think we've ever seen a ride where budget cuts and last minute rewrites have made such an incomprehensible mess of a plot. It's another reason you don't do complicated plots on theme park attractions!

 

[Disstevefan1]

I just saw the full ride through on YouTube -
The building, beautiful.
The queue, beautiful.
The preshow, beautiful.
The actual ride, looks meh.

I am assuming its better it person. Looking forward to trying it.

I AM QUOTING MY OWN POST. NOW I LOVE THE RIDE!!!!

One of the songs is September by Earth, Wind and Fire!!!! One of my favorite groups and to this day still listen to all their albums on my iPod…. Yes I said iPod as I have moved off of vinyl and cassette many years ago but I still love CDs.

What do you think I am an old fuddy duddy to still use vinyl and cassettes, LOL

 

[James Alucobond]

Also, as I pointed out, we inexplicably see Eson jump back to the big bang twice - he does so in the preshow (taking Earth??? with him for some reason) and then, inexplicably, in the first scene of the ride, we jump with Eson again.

Also also, we are chasing Eson to track him for the Guardians... who arrive immediately, so that plot point is totally discarded.

My take on this is that Eson jumps back to the dawn of time for Earth. You can still see the planet next to him when you show up. It doesn't make sense for him to jump all the way back to the big bang because he'll have to wait another 8 billion years for our solar system to show up. However, when the Guardians follow you and grab the cosmic generator, they're unable to control whatever Eson is doing to manipulate it, and you're hurtled all the way back to the big bang itself, hence Gamora emphasizing that you're now going all the way back.

 

[Casper Gutman]

My take on this is that Eson jumps back to the dawn of time for Earth. You can still see the planet next to him when you show up. It doesn't make sense for him to jump all the way back to the big bang because he'll have to wait another 8 billion years for our solar system to show up. However, when the Guardians follow you and grab the cosmic generator, they're unable to control whatever Eson is doing to manipulate it, and you're hurtled all the way back to the big bang itself, hence Gamora emphasizing that you're now going all the way back.

But he took that Earth through the portal with him, so that's modern Earth, which we just left. So I'm not sure why he had to take that back in time with him at all. Also, I don't think the Guardians get the CG at that point, they just sort of... run into it, since they get it during the gravity building section.

 

[TheEPCOTHistorian]

My take on this is that Eson jumps back to the dawn of time for Earth. You can still see the planet next to him when you show up. It doesn't make sense for him to jump all the way back to the big bang because he'll have to wait another 8 billion years for our solar system to show up. However, when the Guardians follow you and grab the cosmic generator, they're unable to control whatever Eson is doing to manipulate it, and you're hurtled all the way back to the big bang itself, hence Gamora emphasizing that you're now going all the way back.

This was what I thought too until you hear them say you're watching the Milky Way Galaxy form as you pass it, to which Drax replies "I hate Milk".... There's milk in space? Terran Cows running around Xandar?

 

[James Alucobond]

But he took that Earth through the portal with him, so that's modern Earth, which we just left. So I'm not sure why he had to take that back in time with him at all. Also, I don't think the Guardians get the CG at that point, they just sort of... run into it, since they get it during the gravity building section.

Hm, I saw that as the Earth gradually phasing out of existence because of what he was going back to do, and that if we allow the portal to fully close, the effect will be complete, erasing all human existence. The Earth behind him in the opening sequence of the ride doesn't look to have any distinguishable continents, though it's admittedly very difficult to see in these videos.

Point taken on them bumping the cosmic generator, but I think the effect is still the same as what I mentioned. It goes haywire and throws them back farther than Eson intended.

As to your earlier point of the Guardians arriving "too quickly", I feel like this makes total sense? You go through the portal so that they can track you somewhen, not somewhere. They should arrive at roughly the same time as you.

@DisneywithNick Right, after the generator going out of control, you jump to multiple time periods. Note that the Milky Way formation is mentioned immediately after you pass through yet another jump portal.