they really shoulda built this in DHS BUT....this gives me a thought of a possibilty of them building a coaster like this but making it star wars themed and then building that in DHS. Which to me would be infinitely cooler. And if they built GotG in DHS they almost def wouldnt build another coaster using the same tech in the same park so maybe it will work out for the best. I feel like DHS is the worst of the 4 parks and since they are building a 100s of millions of dollars star wars hotel connecting to DHS, maybe theyd wanna beef if up
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News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot
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UNCgolf
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Of course they compete with each other. They're both rides about going into space in a park where each pavilion was supposed to about something different. It's redundant for EPCOT. The fact that they are different experiences doesn't really matter; there are basically two space pavilions now.
Haymarket2008
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I genuinely wonder how long Mission: Space will be around for.....Would love to see it go, tbh.
UNCgolf
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Me too, but I can't see it going anywhere anytime soon. They're just about to open a new restaurant attached to it.
Even if they weren't, it doesn't seem like they will be doing any additional big projects in the near future.
SplashJacket
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Just to give MS some love, it's the second best ride at Epcot IMHO
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Incomudro
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At the risk of repeating myself - they are nothing like each other.
UNCgolf
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They're both about space. That's what matters. The fact that they are different ride experiences (which they obviously are; I'm not sure why you think I don't know that) is irrelevant. EPCOT should not have two space pavilions, regardless of the fact that one is supposed to be realistic and one is comic book sci-fi.
I realize that doesn't matter to a lot of people (including Disney), but it still sucks for people who can remember when EPCOT was the best theme park in the world.
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The Pho
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I agree but it’s a pretty low bar. Every single ride in Epcot needs an overhaul, except maybe Living with the Land.
UNCgolf
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I'd put it behind Spaceship Earth, Living with the Land, Soarin', and Test Track, which still puts it top 5. Of course, EPCOT only has 9 rides (I think) so that's not really saying much. It would be the worst ride in Future World by a pretty wide margin if you dropped it into the park in 1992.
It would be perfect for Tomorrowland; it always should have gone there instead of EPCOT.
The Pho
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It’s original version I think was quite well done and among Disney’s stronger attractions. It’s current preshow is the biggest issue I have with it, alongside the buttons not working these days. So really I’d only rank it behind Spaceship Earth, which desperately needs some love these days. In overall Epcot history I’d only rank it behind Spaceship Earth, Original Figment, and Horizons. Perhaps Test Track 1.0 as well, Test Track 2 is far inferior to it.
UNCgolf
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I liked Test Track 1.0 better than 2.0 too. But as I said, I think every original EPCOT Future World ride was better. Spaceship Earth, Horizons, original Imagination, Living with the Land, the Sea Cabs (not because they were an amazing ride on their own but because they were an integral part of the pavilion's theming and the Living Seas was one of the best things Disney has ever built), World of Motion, and Universe of Energy are all better than M:S for me.
It's not that I think Mission: Space is bad; I just don't think it's anything special. And I think it should be in Tomorrowland, but that's a separate issue.
doctornick
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Why not? As long as they are oriented differently, I'm not sure why that would be an issue. M:S tackles the actual specifics of preparing for and travelling into space, which is perfect for the spirit of human achievement and edutainment of classic Epcot.
We'll see about execution, but Cosmic Rewind seems like it will at least touch on the Big Bang and creation or expansion of the universe, which is an entirely different aspect of "space" information. More astrophysics than the practical hard science engineering of M:S.
Not sure I agree. Realistic practical science like M:S is a better fit for Epcot than TL, which is more of a sci fi fantasyland.
GotG certainly would have been a better fit in TL (really think that they should have swapped Tron and GotG:CR)
I mean, a part of this EPCOT overhaul is redesigning the theme and layout of Future World. With the announcement of the “new” Future World at D23, I feel like we were kissing goodbye the pavilions and the overall concept and vision of the original, classic EPCOT.
I know Disney is saying they’re going to maintain the original vision while also making it brand new and whatnot, but I would disagree. IMHO, they’re throwing the original vision out the window and shoehorning any IP they can fit into the park. Seeing how little they seem to be caring with this overhaul, do you really think they’re gonna stop and think for two seconds about putting two space pavilions next to each other? All they care about rn is bringing IP to the park that’ll make them a quick buck.
Having said all that, they are still completely different experiences.
UNCgolf
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That would work if they were both in the same pavilion themed to space, but it doesn't make sense to have them as two separate pavilions in the context of classic EPCOT. Classic EPCOT doesn't exist anymore, of course, but that's part of the complaint.
Tomorrowland wasn't supposed to be a sci-fi fantasyland -- they did change the aesthetics to that in the 94 version, but none of the still extant original attractions have that theme (Space Mountain, Carousel of Progress, the PeopleMover). Mission: Space is essentially just a sequel/newer version of Mission to the Moon/Mission to Mars, which are former Tomorrowland attractions. It would have made more sense to install that in Tomorrowland as the newest version of an original Tomorrowland attraction.
Of course, that was a conflict between Tomorrowland and the original concept of EPCOT, which I think is why they decided to change Tomorrowland into a more sci-fi theme. Since they've abandoned the concept of EPCOT, it would make sense to turn Tomorrowland back into something more closely resembling it's original form, although the inclusion of TRON may torpedo that idea. And that's probably the biggest problem with current Disney. Animal Kingdom is the only park that still has any kind of coherent theme throughout; even the Magic Kingdom is a bit scattershot in places (especially Tomorrowland).
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Sir_Cliff
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It's hard to deny the ambition behind Mission: Space and, on paper, it seems like the perfect Epcot attraction.
In practice, though, I don't think the experience lived up to the ambition. It's too intense for a lot of people and the experience somehow isn't as awe inspiring as it should be. Not sure I'd ever go on it again, but I do get why others would feel differently.
sedati
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To me, the ride itself is astounding. Everything around it is fairly underwhelming, and I'd be all for an upgrade there. Sad thing is most people I know won't ever ride it, not even once. My secret wish is for them to program in a "Red" version where they really show what the system can do.
PostScott
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If you want the "red" version, then it's quite simple really. All you need to do is-
- Be a U.S. citizen
- Possess a master's degree in a STEM field, including engineering, biological science, physical science, computer science or mathematics, from an accredited institution.
- Have at least two years of related professional experience obtained after degree completion or at least 1,000 hours pilot-in-command time on jet aircraft.
- Be able to pass the NASA long-duration flight astronaut physical.
Or you can just go down to NASA and buy a ticket to do it. That works too, but it's less cool.
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Mickeynerd17
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Well, my prediction is that it will have to change at the latest once Elon Musk gets his city on Mars and people start traveling there. Then it will start becoming boring because we're already going to Mars.
Mickeynerd17
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That, and also the fact that it replaced arguably the best dark ride ever built leaves a bit of a black stain it's had to live with it's entire existence.