mharrington
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I understand that Tony Anselmo voices Donald here, but who voices Jose Carioca and Panchito?
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goofyfan13
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DisneyMusician2
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I love AA's, but people are becoming obsessed. AA's do not equal great ride, and lack of AA's does not make a poor one. The El Rio rehab was long in coming, and I think they did an admirable job blending the old and new. I can't wait to see it in person, I have a feeling that the video can't really capture everything going on.
Pete C
Active Member
Major improvement. I went on this last year for the first time in a decade and I was let down by how out of date and run down it was. It was a nice, peaceful ride, but not exactly fun. This refurb looks to have injected life into this ride, and I am now looking forward to riding it again. Good job!
erasure fan1
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Thats the stuff from my nightmares! Circlevision and smallworld!:ROFLOL: I see both sides of the AA discusion. I think AAs immerse you more in the ride, they bring you into the story, into that world. But this ride is so non major that I cant see them spending the cash unless they started from square one. I think what they did is an improvement, thats not to say they couldnt have done better. Splash mountain is my all time favorite ride, but I still feel it has some things that could be better. You cant make a "perfect" ride or do a "perfect" refurb. You can only hope they better the ride in the long run.
beachclubbasics
New Member
Don't forget, WDW is in business to make money and if something doesn't please custoers it;s not going to make money. Customers' opinion is gold in the tourist industry.
Truthfully, while I prefer the old El Rio, it was very disjointed and didn't make a heck of a lot of sense. However, you see even less of the beautiful parts of Mexico and its culture with Senior Donald running around everywhere.
Los tres Cabballeros just seem to make the whole ride more of what US citizens stereotypically think of Mexico. If the goal of the ride is to encourage tourism (as was the goal of the original El Rio) I just don't see how it's going to accomplishthat goal. It will, however, sell more Donald Duck items.
BTW, did anyone notice the Donald Pinata in the IASW type scene in the ride? Is that pinata malfunctioning? It's not moving very well.
DisneyMusician2
Well-Known Member
I don't think it will do any worse than the original did, which didn't promote tourism anyway. The only thing Disney attracts promote are more trips to Disney. That is why we are all here on the boards, anyway.
Pete C
Active Member
I don't think that is the goal anymore. Epcot is moving away from education and tourism, and more toward entertainment. You have to spin those turnstiles. I hope you are not insinuating that Mexicans could possibly be offended by these stereotypes.
goofyfan13
Well-Known Member
Stereotypes are in just about every pavilion, see previous posts about Norway and Trolls, and Canada with Lumberjacks, Mounties, and Maple Syrup.
DigitalDisney
New Member
Sigh. The age-old argument continues...
Different strokes for different folks.
Ultimately, the ride's impact will be the sum of its parts, and not just whether or not it has AAs or projections or thrills or whatever. Attractions like Stitch and Figment have decent AAs, but the overall experiences leave you empty because the whole thing was uninspired.
Personally, I like a mix of AAs and projections and other technologies. For example, the new Nemo ride absolutely floors me.
- Some of the projections are translucent (like the ones at the beginning with Dory and Marlin) and you can see through them to the background.
- Projections are used to make the highly themed coral sparkle / twinkle
- Some projections are used to provide additional perspective. When Bruce is hunting down Nemo, the background is moving at the same speed as the clammobiles (you will only see this if the vehicles slow down or stop)
- As far as AAs go, the angler fish is amazing. Even when it's not completely operational, the rest of the ride is stunning.
Different strokes for different folks.
Ultimately, the ride's impact will be the sum of its parts, and not just whether or not it has AAs or projections or thrills or whatever. Attractions like Stitch and Figment have decent AAs, but the overall experiences leave you empty because the whole thing was uninspired.
Personally, I like a mix of AAs and projections and other technologies. For example, the new Nemo ride absolutely floors me.
- Some of the projections are translucent (like the ones at the beginning with Dory and Marlin) and you can see through them to the background.
- Projections are used to make the highly themed coral sparkle / twinkle
- Some projections are used to provide additional perspective. When Bruce is hunting down Nemo, the background is moving at the same speed as the clammobiles (you will only see this if the vehicles slow down or stop)
- As far as AAs go, the angler fish is amazing. Even when it's not completely operational, the rest of the ride is stunning.
Connor002
Active Member
I didn't realize this argument was onging...
I'm going to consolidate your post down to three lines, if you don't mind, bring the issue back toward it's root.
The central argument here seems to be over what this rehab was supposed to be. My understanding was the purpose of El Rio's rehab was to revitalize an old attraction in order to reach a new, and wider, audience. The fact of the matter is that this is what has occurred, and successfully. Whether or not AAs (or any other technology your would hope for) were used, this attraction is bringing in more crowds than it has in years.
I'm going to consolidate your post down to three lines, if you don't mind, bring the issue back toward it's root.
IB said:
The central argument here seems to be over what this rehab was supposed to be. My understanding was the purpose of El Rio's rehab was to revitalize an old attraction in order to reach a new, and wider, audience. The fact of the matter is that this is what has occurred, and successfully. Whether or not AAs (or any other technology your would hope for) were used, this attraction is bringing in more crowds than it has in years.
Peaches Magee
New Member
Yesss!
I'm glad to hear they are still there, in a perpetual loop of diving tan shiny men in bikini trunks.
That should always be counted on.
Was afraid they would stick Donald in there diving over the grainy discolored background. :ROFLOL:
mharrington
Well-Known Member
Don't forget Germany with polka bands, cuckoo clocks and sausages and potatoes.
IcicleM
New Member
Just to stray away from what everyone else is talking about, haha, I wonder (for those who were there opening day) if anyone was there from WDW Magic? I got there right at 11:00 the morning it opened, and there were tons of people (some with big expensive looking cameras) and I waned to know if anyone saw me there, haha. Me and my Hershey bag around my shoulder. ^_^ I felt so proud of myself for being there right when it opened.
DisneyNut2007
Active Member
Sorry, beachclubbasics, but I beg to differ.
For example...
I don't see Epcot becoming a "movieland" park in any way...and I can't see character-themed additions coming to EVERY attraction.
I also feel insulted in your remarks about Pocahontas, one of my favorite films. I don't find anything offensive about it at all.
Some things are so underappreciated...
raven
Well-Known Member
Are Americans and people from South America the only ones who visit that store in Epcot? I don't think so. So unless you were there all day and saw people throwing around items and asked their origins than don't put blame on specific nationalities. People from all over the world visit Epcot.
