News Gotta Pay2Play: Paid FP on the way!

[MisterPenguin]

So. Anyone know just how many Club rooms there are across the resorts?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So. Anyone know just how many Club rooms there are across the resorts?

Great question...anyone want to research that?

A quick guestinate is probably 500 ish plus 40-50 ish suites?

 

[George]

Adding to that analogy what if Master Yoda offered a FP for his lube service.

I find it odd that my "adult night" party ideas are part of this discussion.

You’re definition is incorrect. Crowding is not directly related to daily attendance, it is a relative term that describes density. A larger park with greater capacity will be less crowded than a smaller park with less capacity even if they have the same daily attendance.

Correct. The pound/square foot of human in MK is usually extraordinary.

 

[HauntedPirate]

So. Anyone know just how many Club rooms there are across the resorts?

I was wondering the exact same thing myself. It will give a better idea of potential impact with this new paid FP+ offering.

 

[MrHappy]

"Experience the new MAGICAL!!! Princess Potty Plan!!! Your little princess will feel like a true Disney Princess every time nature calls, pampered during each step of the process! Only $299.99 per day (5-day minimum purchase required, theme park admission not included)"

Explains the overtop themeing of the Tangled bathrooms

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I was wondering the exact same thing myself. It will give a better idea of potential impact with this new paid FP+ offering.

It's not a huge number...but it's the perfect demographic to test. How many times have we seen "GF CL MKview" or equivalent categories brought up by posters who absolutely seem to revel in overpaying for their disney trips? A lot. Perfect demographic.

In my experience (and I have plenty of it),concierge customers at wdw include a lot of napoleon complex/new money types.
Not all...but a factor.

 

[MrPromey]

Explains the overtop themeing of the Tangled bathrooms

It's like how the extended grave queue originally opened up at Haunted Mansion as "optional" - who didn't see that coming, right?

The rest of the park restrooms are going to need a whole lot of plusing before they start charging or we're going to have another Beast's Castile issue on our hands, though!

 

[Next Big Thing]

Uhhh... have you all forgotten VIP Tours?

With a VIP Tour, you can buy your way to the front of the more popular, or, in some cases, any ride in WDW as if you had unlimited FPs.

Look into it. Been happening for years.

This is just a do-it-yourself form of getting to the front of the line as if you were on a VIP Tour.

Check out:

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/events-tours/vip-tour-services/

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/signature-services/

This is different though since it's directly connected to FP+. This will be taking up many FP slots, which in turn will lead to higher stand-by wait times.

People on VIP tours aren't impacting the FP+ system.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is different though since it's directly connected to FP+. This will be taking up many FP slots, which in turn will lead to higher stand-by wait times.

People on VIP tours aren't impacting the FP+ system.

There's no downside to this for disney:

1. Extra money
2. Demand for rooms (all before you know it once they eliminate values and moderates) to get access to pay fastpass
3. Increased prices for rooms due to deman...dvc prices as well...

Nothing to stop them...becuse the consumer is stupid once they enter the purple gates (which they May end up charging an epass fee to drive under)

 

[bhg469]

Can they please just charge 100 a day for the ability to use fastpass and leave it at that? It would fix a ton of issues.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Would I be able to purchase the FPs from a Magic Kingdom club-level cabana?

 

[bhg469]

Would I be able to purchase the FPs from a Magic Kingdom club-level cabanaFema tent?

Fixed

 

[marni1971]

Be afraid.

When the time comes make sure you complain like hell.

 

[Next Big Thing]

Be afraid.

When the time comes make sure you complain like hell.

Would you say this is just the beginning?

 

[MrPromey]

Be afraid.

When the time comes make sure you complain like hell.

Were you responding to anything particular that's been discussed here other than just the thread heading?

I suspect you weren't but the optimist in me has to ask.

 

[marni1971]

Would you say this is just the beginning?

Yes.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Be afraid.

When the time comes make sure you complain like hell.

when the time comes for... ?

well I hope they don't screw DVC members or even AP holders. I expected a tier of some sort... but not a pay extra to play

 

[DisneyJoe]

I would not say wait times for a given attraction and 'crowding' are the same thing.

Wait times are obviously manipulated by things such as number of cars, amount of FPs given, operating hours, etc.

Crowding is determined by the daily attendance, which is primarily controlled by ticket prices.

If he was discussing wait times by saying 'crowding', then he's correct. But I thought he was talking about the actual daily attendance (crowd).

Just to throw another spin on this - TouringPlans defines their crowd-level based on "the average posted wait time between 10:00 am and 5:00 pm."

 

[DisneyJoe]

when the time comes for... ?

well I hope they don't screw DVC members or even AP holders. I expected a tier of some sort... but not a pay extra to play

DVC members have a better chance than AP holders...I think AP holders are lowest in priority.

 

[GhostHost1000]

DVC members have a better chance than AP holders...I think AP holders are lowest in priority.

in Florida... I agree