General Star Wars News

[Sirwalterraleigh]

My pick would be Favreau, but as @Sirwalterraleigh said, I don't think he wants any part of it. To be honest, I'm not sure what qualified person would want it. Star wars is in such a bad state with its direction, and if they actually go forward with any new mainline stuff like the Ray film. It will make it harder to find someone good. Who wants to go under that microscope, especially if the first film isn't well received. I'd want my vision 100% if taking that burden on.

Nobody wants that movie except those that failed on the 3 prior

And that’s why it should be put inside a capsule and launched immediately over the Golden Gate Bridge

 

[Disney Irish]

In my opinion the head of a studio like LucasFilms does not and honestly should not be a creative. As you want them to get out of the creatives' way instead of trying to get their hands on it.

Rather you should have someone who understands the franchise enough to be an architect with a vision but not enough of a creative that they would want to take over every project. As while the MCU has had its problems lately the success they had was largely due to Feige being the architect but not the creative force behind it, ie he pulled the strings while letting the creatives work their magic.

So you need a Feige type producer person in that role.

 

[erasure fan1]

Nobody wants that movie except those that failed on the 3 prior

And that’s why it should be put inside a capsule and launched immediately over the Golden Gate Bridge

That's why this needed to change years ago. I say let the Mando film release and if it's a success, maybe do a second film. Everything else, put it on ice and wait for Iger to be gone as well as Kennedy. Then when you have a fresh team, then continue with the next saga films. I just can't fathom this clown show and another trilogy.

 

[Willmark]

In my opinion the head of a studio like LucasFilms does not and honestly should not be a creative. As you want them to get out of the creatives' way instead of trying to get their hands on it.

Rather you should have someone who understands the franchise enough to be an architect with a vision but not enough of a creative that they would want to take over every project. As while the MCU has had its problems lately the success they had was largely due to Feige being the architect but not the creative force behind it, ie he pulled the strings while letting the creatives work their magic.

So you need a Feige type producer person in that role.

Sure but the problem is they can’t un-ring the bell. What happened, happened under her watch.

The sheer stupidity and really, hubris is mind blowing. @Sirwalterraleigh has it right, they were handed the easiest layup ever and decided it was better to throw the ball at the fans sitting in the stands.

Not having a cohesive story was beyond dumb in the sequels. There is now, no way to go back and solve that.

What they should have done is finish Skywalker story and after episode 9 tell new stories. People would have accepted that better than what they were told to watch and berated when they turned around and said “no thanks.”

Instead we got a mish-mash of wildly different content in varying forms of quality. The TV shows likewise. Now whose fault is that? I can tell you who it’s not: the fans. That’s why it’s beyond laughable when they get blamed. They had how much input with what was created? Zero.

Now, the Mouse is well past the point of where they should have been doing damage control.

So I agree that there should be a more “vision” type of person leading the charge for LF. It also should happened when Disney bought Lucas film, not now. I won’t say it’s too late but they made it an order of magnitude harder than it needed to be.

 

[Agent H]

My pick would be Favreau, but as @Sirwalterraleigh said, I don't think he wants any part of it. To be honest, I'm not sure what qualified person would want it. Star wars is in such a bad state with its direction, and if they actually go forward with any new mainline stuff like the Ray film. It will make it harder to find someone good. Who wants to go under that microscope, especially if the first film isn't well received. I'd want my vision 100% if taking that burden on.

What I don’t understand is why people think Lucas can’t make Star Wars stuff he did it successfully for 35 years.

 

[Phroobar]

What I don’t understand is why people think Lucas can’t make Star Wars stuff he did it successfully for 35 years.

I don't think he wants to anymore. He is kind of over it.
Looking at his IMDB, he actually has nothing he is working on. All it shows is projects were he is given credit for creating characters in Star Wars.

On the other hand, we got Hamill pulling up his pants at an awards show.

 

[erasure fan1]

What I don’t understand is why people think Lucas can’t make Star Wars stuff he did it successfully for 35 years.

I can't speak for everyone. But I wouldn't want George in charge of it based on the prequels. And I'm a prequel apologist. The issue was he became overly controlling. I'm going to write, direct.... I'd be fine with him as a consultant. Story, world building, characters... George is an idea guy at heart. He needs people to keep him in check like Marcia Lucas in the OT. And at his age now, and how he feels Disney treated him, I don't think he would settle for anything but full control.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In my opinion the head of a studio like LucasFilms does not and honestly should not be a creative. As you want them to get out of the creatives' way instead of trying to get their hands on it.

Rather you should have someone who understands the franchise enough to be an architect with a vision but not enough of a creative that they would want to take over every project. As while the MCU has had its problems lately the success they had was largely due to Feige being the architect but not the creative force behind it, ie he pulled the strings while letting the creatives work their magic.

So you need a Feige type producer person in that role.

Has it been a disaster?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sure but the problem is they can’t un-ring the bell. What happened, happened under her watch.

The sheer stupidity and really, hubris is mind blowing. @Sirwalterraleigh has it right, they were handed the easiest layup ever and decided it was better to throw the ball at the fans sitting in the stands.

Not having a cohesive story was beyond dumb in the sequels. There is now, no way to go back and solve that.

What they should have done is finish Skywalker story and after episode 9 tell new stories. People would have accepted that better than what they were told to watch and berated when they turned around and said “no thanks.”

Instead we got a mish-mash of wildly different content in varying forms of quality. The TV shows likewise. Now whose fault is that? I can tell you who it’s not: the fans. That’s why it’s beyond laughable when they get blamed. They had how much input with what was created? Zero.

Now, the Mouse is well past the point of where they should have been doing damage control.

So I agree that there should be a more “vision” type of person leading the charge for LF. It also should happened when Disney bought Lucas film, not now. I won’t say it’s too late but they made it an order of magnitude harder than it needed to be.

The fans get blamed when the material sucks

Which is EXACTLY what George tried to do exactly 25 years ago…

Someone needed to make Star Wars that actually liked what the product was…which wasn’t George and wasn’t Disney

If you just wanted money…you should just make a new iPhone…because you’ll lose otherwise in the end

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I can't speak for everyone. But I wouldn't want George in charge of it based on the prequels. And I'm a prequel apologist. The issue was he became overly controlling. I'm going to write, direct.... I'd be fine with him as a consultant. Story, world building, characters... George is an idea guy at heart. He needs people to keep him in check like Marcia Lucas in the OT. And at his age now, and how he feels Disney treated him, I don't think he would settle for anything but full control.

The issue was mostly Rick McCallum
And George liking the ledger more than the legend

Disney doubled down on that mistake

Which frankly none of us thought possible in 2012. How can you make the same fundamental mistake twice?

Hubris

 

[Disney Irish]

Sure but the problem is they can’t un-ring the bell. What happened, happened under her watch.

The sheer stupidity and really, hubris is mind blowing. @Sirwalterraleigh has it right, they were handed the easiest layup ever and decided it was better to throw the ball at the fans sitting in the stands.

Not having a cohesive story was beyond dumb in the sequels. There is now, no way to go back and solve that.

What they should have done is finish Skywalker story and after episode 9 tell new stories. People would have accepted that better than what they were told to watch and berated when they turned around and said “no thanks.”

Instead we got a mish-mash of wildly different content in varying forms of quality. The TV shows likewise. Now whose fault is that? I can tell you who it’s not: the fans. That’s why it’s beyond laughable when they get blamed. They had how much input with what was created? Zero.

Now, the Mouse is well past the point of where they should have been doing damage control.

So I agree that there should be a more “vision” type of person leading the charge for LF. It also should happened when Disney bought Lucas film, not now. I won’t say it’s too late but they made it an order of magnitude harder than it needed to be.

And that maybe, but we are where we are now. The only path is the path forward, you can't go back and try to fix what already happened.

So instead of focusing on past mistakes move forward with a new person who is more of an architect rather than a creative.

Has it been a disaster?

What? The previous SW? I'd say its been a mixed bag, but I don't want to go over past grievances here. As I said we are where we are, just have to move forward.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What? The previous SW? I'd say its been a mixed bag, but I don't want to go over past grievances here. As I said we are where we are, just have to move forward.

Well I will

Because you can’t really parse it this way.

Maybe with another franchise…maybe with any other franchise…but not Star Wars

Which is unfortunately what I said from the start and thought Disney would never do.

It’s more existential with this one. Failure was not an option.

And they already saw what happens with the prequels…a lot of money but such a diminished pull and reduced potential that it was pound foolish.

And here we are.

Throw out the charts. This maybe the only property where that can be said.

Want to know why I don’t get along with pengs?

Because I said in December 2017 that the last Johnson was a catastrophic mistake.
And I got box office charts and an opinion it was just like empire strikes back.

With a straight face

Many hate my opinions…and I get why…but the batting average is far above the Mendoza line.

Anyone who knew Star Wars could see this. Anyone. Disney &$@ed it up. Period. No debate. No discussion. It is what it is

 

[Serpico Jones]

Bob Iger is also responsible for a lot of this. He’s the one who set the aggressive release schedule that meant multiple filmmakers would have to tackle the sequel trilogy instead of having one creative with one unified vision.

 

[Disney Irish]

Well I will

Because you can’t really parse it this way.

Maybe with another franchise…maybe with any other franchise…but not Star Wars

Which is unfortunately what I said from the start and thought Disney would never do.

It’s more existential with this one. Failure was not an option.

And they already saw what happens with the prequels…a lot of money but such a diminished pull and reduced potential that it was pound foolish.

And here we are.

Throw out the charts. This maybe the only property where that can be said.

Want to know why I don’t get along with pengs?

Because I said in December 2017 that the last Johnson was a catastrophic mistake.
And I got box office charts and an opinion it was just like empire strikes back.

With a straight face

Many hate my opinions…and I get why…but the batting average is far above the Mendoza line.

Anyone who knew Star Wars could see this. Anyone. Disney &$@ed it up. Period. No debate. No discussion. It is what it is

Now that you got that all out can we move on? I won't even disagree with you just to keep this easier.

The point is again that the next head of LFL shouldn't be a creative, it shouldn't even be a business person, it needs be an architect that stays focused on the vision but stays out of the creative side other than the broad strokes.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni will replace Kathleen Kennedy according to Jordan Ruimy of World of Reel.

Source: Dave Filoni & Jon Favreau to Replace Kathleen Kennedy at LucasFilm — World of Reel

I’m being told — albeit by a single source — that Dave Filloni and Jon Favreau are tipped to replace Kathleen Kennedy as head of LucasFilm. A formal announcement could happen at Star Wars Celebration in April.

www.worldofreel.com

 

[Disney Irish]

Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni will replace Kathleen Kennedy according to Jordan Ruimy of World of Reel.

Source: Dave Filoni & Jon Favreau to Replace Kathleen Kennedy at LucasFilm — World of Reel

I’m being told — albeit by a single source — that Dave Filloni and Jon Favreau are tipped to replace Kathleen Kennedy as head of LucasFilm. A formal announcement could happen at Star Wars Celebration in April.

www.worldofreel.com

If true I think that is fine as that would allow both to create a cohesive vision for the future of SW, which I'm sure Filoni has been doing since becoming CCO of LFL anyways. The only thing that I question is how much hands on will both be given their own creative backgrounds in and out of SW. Will they allow the creatives to do their magic or will they be too tempted to be hands on.

 

[Phroobar]

I can't speak for everyone. But I wouldn't want George in charge of it based on the prequels. And I'm a prequel apologist. The issue was he became overly controlling. I'm going to write, direct.... I'd be fine with him as a consultant. Story, world building, characters... George is an idea guy at heart. He needs people to keep him in check like Marcia Lucas in the OT. And at his age now, and how he feels Disney treated him, I don't think he would settle for anything but full control.

I would be perfectly happy to have George own and control the IP. He can let other people direct but I think a creative really needs to be in charge.

 

[erasure fan1]

As while the MCU has had its problems lately the success they had was largely due to Feige being the architect but not the creative force behind it, ie he pulled the strings while letting the creatives work their magic.

Feige is in my opinion a creative. And I absolutely believe that is why the MCU did what it did. Absolutely he was an architect more than anything. But without his creative side it might not have worked as well. You have to be creative to fit the films together and know how the progression is going to go. He needs to make decisions based on creativity to make adjustments when needed. Just because he's not writing the scripts or directing doesn't mean he's not creative. Feige is probably the perfect balance of creative and business. There's no world where Kennedy could manage any of that. Because she doesn't have the creative vision as we've seen in star wars.

That's one of the biggest downsides to Kennedy. She has zero in the creative department. Plus she doesn't understand star wars in the least. If Kevin was in charge of star wars, I know you'd never hear something as idiotic as "well we don't have years of stories from comics novels like the mcu to go by".

 

[erasure fan1]

I would be perfectly happy to have George own and control the IP. He can let other people direct but I think a creative really needs to be in charge.

I would agree, I just don't think he would give up that control. Disney yanked the rug from under him. So if by some chance they wanted him back, IF he would say yes, I really believe it would be, ok then, we're doing it my way. And an untethered Lucas could be a recipe for a letdown. And that's the last thing star wars needs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Feige is in my opinion a creative. And I absolutely believe that is why the MCU did what it did. Absolutely he was an architect more than anything. But without his creative side it might not have worked as well. You have to be creative to fit the films together and know how the progression is going to go. He needs to make decisions based on creativity to make adjustments when needed. Just because he's not writing the scripts or directing doesn't mean he's not creative. Feige is probably the perfect balance of creative and business. There's no world where Kennedy could manage any of that. Because she doesn't have the creative vision as we've seen in star wars.

That's one of the biggest downsides to Kennedy. She has zero in the creative department. Plus she doesn't understand star wars in the least. If Kevin was in charge of star wars, I know you'd never hear something as idiotic as "well we don't have years of stories from comics novels like the mcu to go by".

He’s much closer to a superfan than a Hollywood bred suit

So that’s a lot closer to a creative than our girl Kath