MrPromey
Well-Known Member
Originally posted by jcmayid
hey look, this happened to me last year, and I very much didn't appreciate it. I didn't go to MK cause I thought that was where the comotion was, instead we went to AK and guess what, there too. Now as you say many Hetero's do this but guess what, I don't want my children exposed to Homosexuality at such an early age, I'd rather let them make their own decission. Also, who wants to be explaining homosexuality to their 5 year old at Disney. Is this the image you'd like to portray? Come on, someone has to agree with me here. I am in no way a gaybasher but man there is a time and place for everything. :brick: , also, I'd rather my kid see a heterosexual kissing and groping than two guys or two girls.
Well, unless they pass laws making public displays of affection among homosexuals illegal, there is going to be a problem. My point with the groping is that I don't think it's appropriate anywhere in a Disney park by anyone be it heterosexual or homosexual. I think we can all agree that this kind of thing sort of bites at the public decency heel but to say that it's wrong for two guys to hold hands but it's not so bad to see a guy and a girl doing it goes well beyond anything that could be considered legal objection. There is nothing at all wrong with you feeling about this the way you do. We are all entitled to our opinions in these regards and because we live in this great country, you are free to raise your kids anyway you feel fit. Where your argument looses steam is in trying to sound like you represent an accepting part of the population and then you go on to say "Now as you say many Hetero's do this but guess what, I don't want my children exposed to Homosexuality at such an early age, I'd rather let them make their own decision.". I may be wrong but what that sounds like is "I don't want my kids to know about it because it might turn them gay". I mean, how can anybody make their own decision about something when they are only aware their parents telling them that something is wrong?... I mean, it's fine to not like it and not want your kids to see it because you don't think it's right but what you need to understand is that it's because of people like you that they have these kinds of events at Disney in the first place. When you make a statement like "I am in no way a gaybasher but man there is a time and place for everything. :brick: , also, I'd rather my kid see a heterosexual kissing and groping than two guys or two girls." You are saying that you think it's ok for heterosexuals to do it but not ok for homosexuals to do it. Where do you think things like "gay pride" come from in the first place? The same place that black pride and Jewish pride and every other form of "minority" pride comes from - Oppression.
Most of the posts in this thread compliment your sentiments so I don't really understand what you mean by " Come on, someone has to agree with me here."...
My point is that I really don't know what you expect Disney to do about it. Maybe they could fly a big flag of a rainbow with a big "X" through it or put away all their princess merchandise for the day or close the park to regular guests and make it an official event (heck, if they did that they could sell shirts and limited edition pins like they do for Night Of Joy). Of course , if you heard that Disney was officially hosting an event like that, you'd probably have something to say about that, too. Maybe it wouldn't turn your kids gay and ruin your entire vacation but I doubt it would go by without comment. I think they make the best of a situation that they can. I went there one year with some friends when I was a teen wearing a red shirt on that day not realizing and they even gave me another shirt to wear...
I will freely admit that I don't have children so it's probably hard for me to put myself in the shoes of someone who did to understand what you are talking about but I have never seen the overt behavior that you are speaking of on one of these days. I have seen same ______ people kiss in the parks and hold hand both on "gay day" and on regular days but as I said, but I've gotten much more of an "education" on other days with heterosexual people in the parks. I was around gay people as a child. One in particular had been a friend of my mothers from high school back before she chose to become or realized she was gay. They had been out on double dates (with guys ) and my mother chose not to end their friendship over something that didn't have anything to do with her really... As a result of this early exposure, I learned to be tolerant and accepting of people that aren't like me. It didn't turn me gay. It didn't even come close to opening the "forbidden door" that you seem to be afraid of. I don't personally agree with homosexuality but I'm not about to sit in judgement of those who lead that kind of life. Lord knows, if that's their only 'sin' in life they probably sit a lot better in the eyes of God than I do... Just something to think about. I'm not suggesting that you should expect a sexual education in Disney and if you see people groping in a totally inappropriate manner (hetero or homosexual) , I'd encourage you to report it to a cast member (btw, did you try doing that?) but as for the other stuff, there's only so much Disney can control.
I'm not trying to turn this into a heated debate or anything. It's a subject that is sensitive to a lot of different people for a lot of different reasons. I'm just trying to say that they can't prevent two guys from kissing any more than they can prevent you from going over and hurting one of them. All I can say is that if I was there with children, I'd feel much worse about them witnessing the hate crime that you performed (it was you that said that, right?) than for them witnessing two people of the same ______ kissing. JMHO.