Galactic Starcruiser: DLR Opinions

Practical Pig

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No one’s going to explicitly say it, but the thought is there through the language and statements. Anyone honest with themselves can look back and see it throughout the thread, assuming no one edited anything out.
I'm one who's said that this experience isn't for me, and I will explicitly say that I wish it was. I am much more of an introvert now than is good for me, and I wish I had the outgoingness of engagement and frankly the elan of those who I've watched enthusiastically enjoying themselves "onboard."

The chiders are making unwarranted assumptions about other poster's motivations.
 

TP2000

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I just don't see how this is a long-term success at the price they are asking. While it isn't for me, there are people that will enjoy this and have the means to go experience it once. However, unless Disney is willing to invest in new story lines*** regularly, how do you keep people coming back to this? Without repeat visitors, are there enough people into this very niche type of entertainment (that can also afford it!) to keep it going long term? I don't think so, but maybe I'm just not plugged into that part of life. 🤷‍♀️

*** IMO, current Disney doesn't behave like a company willing to invest in new story lines.

Great points.

Remember how we were told that Midway Mania could be updated and changed regularly? New games could be incorporate seasonally, or with new Pixar releases? Yeah.... that never happened. Midway Mania opened in DCA 14 years ago, and it's still exactly the same. :rolleyes:

It took them 25 years to update Star Tours. Once.

Soarin' has been around for 21 years, and it's only had two versions. One made for California circa 2000, and one made for Communist China circa 2017. Now we're back to California circa 2000 and we're supposed to be excited about it.
 

No Name

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I just don't see how this is a long-term success at the price they are asking.
Well they could pretty easily scale it down to a mostly regular hotel with mostly regular prices (lack of windows probably the biggest holdup). Of course they don’t want to do that in a few months, but in maybe a decade from now I could see that happening.

Great points.

Remember how we were told that Midway Mania could be updated and changed regularly? New games could be incorporate seasonally, or with new Pixar releases? Yeah.... that never happened. Midway Mania opened in DCA 14 years ago, and it's still exactly the same. :rolleyes:

It took them 25 years to update Star Tours. Once.

Soarin' has been around for 21 years, and it's only had two versions. One made for California circa 2000, and one made for Communist China circa 2017. Now we're back to California circa 2000 and we're supposed to be excited about it.
They updated Midway Mania once for Toy Story 3 but yeah that was it. There’s no real system in imagineering for updates like that which is a shame, like there should be a dedicated unit for getting rid of anything that looks like it’s stuck in 2005.
 

el_super

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You guys are seeing what you want to see. The language suggests and outright states that this experience isn’t for us because of finances, not being into the role playing, etc. Some of us even talked about what we did like about the hotel. So to say that we think it’s beneath us doesn’t make sense.

Maybe you're not understanding how some of these things are being interpreted?


There’s no need for this to be cheesy and corny for it to work. This is what’s wrong with Disney today. They think of their own products as very childlike and elementary and they talk to their own fans as if they were dumb children all the time. It’s ridiculous.

I agree. Of course I’m just basing this on a bunch of YouTube videos, so I don’t know for sure, but so far, it comes off as a high end kids’ Star Wars birthday party. Not your neighborhood birthday party when the costumes come from a bootleg Party City, which is saying a lot, but still not very good and too kiddie.

I mentioned this earlier, but the company has gone overboard with the kiddie stuff, especially the rhetoric. Whenever I read about something new coming from Disney, sometimes I feel like I’m sitting in a kindergarten class with my classmates huddled together on the floor while Ms. Smith tells us about our brand new coloring books. There’s a way to get the message across in a fun way and still talk to us like we’re adults.

This is the kind of buffoonery I’m talking about. I don’t want to be around a bunch of people like this, personally. This is too much.



You don't have to be a child to like this new experience. Insinuating as such, would also suggest a belief that the people who do like these experiences, are not capable of adult thinking.
 

el_super

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I liked the reaction from the reporter who loved it. I like Mousertainment's take on an Avengers version. I guess we'll see if enough people are interested at that price point. The reporter did mention that there were many stories going that he didn't get a chance to experience.

If the price is the only real concern from the audience, Disney can easily adjust it. I'd imagine the $6,000 was pegged to curb demand, in line with their other price adjustments recently, but if the demand dries up, they probably have a lot of room to move that down before they have to start cutting the experience.

I haven't seen many of the videos at all, but I wonder how much of the storytelling could be adopted to Galaxy's Edge when it's had it's play at the Starcruiser and new stories are available.
 

Californian Elitist

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Maybe you're not understanding how some of these things are being interpreted?










You don't have to be a child to like this new experience. Insinuating as such, would also suggest a belief that the people who do like these experiences, are not capable of adult thinking.
These posts clearly indicate that this experience ISN’T FOR ME, for the third or fourth time. NOT that it’s “beneath me.” I can talk about something that I actually find to be beneath me and my rhetoric would be much more damning, cruel, and overall negative. The first post you quoted from me is a general post about Disney in general, so that has nothing to do with the hotel. Part of the second post relates to Disney overall as well, and it would appear that you’re taking what I said out of context, but that’s another talking point. Regarding the first part of the second quote, I said it comes off as a kid’s birthday party, but not a cheap one, clearly indicating that there’s some sort of value there, so there’s that. Regarding the third post, just because I don’t want to be around people doing a specific thing for two days straight doesn’t mean I believe I’m better than them/above them. It simply means I don’t want to be around them for two days straight. I have family members who behave a certain way and because of that, I don’t want to be around them for very long. Doesn’t mean I think I’m better.

But, please. Believe what you want.
 

jasminethecat

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These posts clearly indicate that this experience ISN’T FOR ME, for the third or fourth time. NOT that it’s “beneath me.” I can talk about something that I actually find to be beneath me and my rhetoric would be much more damning, cruel, and overall negative. The first post you quoted from me is a general post about Disney in general, so that has nothing to do with the hotel. Part of the second post relates to Disney overall as well, and it would appear that you’re taking what I said out of context, but that’s another talking point. Regarding the first part of the second quote, I said it comes off as a kid’s birthday party, but not a cheap one, clearly indicating that there’s some sort of value there, so there’s that. Regarding the third post, just because I don’t want to be around people doing a specific thing for two days straight doesn’t mean I believe I’m better than them/above them. It simply means I don’t want to be around them for two days straight. I have family members who behave a certain way and because of that, I don’t want to be around them for very long. Doesn’t mean I think I’m better.

But, please. Believe what you want.
To agree with you (Raven24) on this one - I am glad that the starcruiser is shaping up and looks much better than it did when the first promo materials came out. I am glad people seem to be enjoying it, but what it is absolutely doesn't appeal to me. I am almost 50 and have loved star wars all my life. I must have watched all of the OT movies over 50 times each, and the prequels and sequels several times each. I had toys as a child and I can quote the OT movies almost verbatim much to the chagrin of anyone watching with me.

But I am fairly introverted and I am not into the LARP aspect as much as I thought I might be. I have family members of my own who could be called "drama queens" in the most positive sense - they like being loud, being the center of attention, singing in front of anyone and playing dress up. I love these family members and I am happy they like who they are, but it does actually get tiring for me personally at times when they go "full Glee mode" for hours on end during family trips. I don't consider them childish, I just think they're cut from a very different mold than I am.

So if this is what a star wars exclusive experience looks like at Disney, then I am sorry but it's not for me either. If I had all the money in the world, i might go to watch the story and try some different foods. But it wouldn't be as much fun for me, and I wouldn't be bringing the right energy to the starcruiser either.
 

Californian Elitist

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To agree with you (Raven24) on this one - I am glad that the starcruiser is shaping up and looks much better than it did when the first promo materials came out. I am glad people seem to be enjoying it, but what it is absolutely doesn't appeal to me. I am almost 50 and have loved star wars all my life. I must have watched all of the OT movies over 50 times each, and the prequels and sequels several times each. I had toys as a child and I can quote the OT movies almost verbatim much to the chagrin of anyone watching with me.

But I am fairly introverted and I am not into the LARP aspect as much as I thought I might be. I have family members of my own who could be called "drama queens" in the most positive sense - they like being loud, being the center of attention, singing in front of anyone and playing dress up. I love these family members and I am happy they like who they are, but it does actually get tiring for me personally at times when they go "full Glee mode" for hours on end during family trips. I don't consider them childish, I just think they're cut from a very different mold than I am.

So if this is what a star wars exclusive experience looks like at Disney, then I am sorry but it's not for me either. If I had all the money in the world, i might go to watch the story and try some different foods. But it wouldn't be as much fun for me, and I wouldn't be bringing the right energy to the starcruiser either.
Thank you. I feel the same way, but for kind of different reasons. I’m an extrovert, so I love being around people, including strangers, and love the energy I get from crowds, events, parties, and people in general. With that being said, I’m generally fine with LARPing, but only for so long. Disney Parks have LARPing elements to them, but there’s a difference between walking around a theme park and catching a 15+ minute show that includes LARPing and staying at a hotel for two straight days and LARPing is not only part of the experience, but it’s all around you. Like you, I would personally feel exhausted from an experience like that. It really is just too much for me. If I’m going to a hotel, I don’t want there to be any role-playing. That doesn’t mean that I think I’m better or that I’m too good for an experience like that. It just means I don’t want to do it. Same goes for you and anyone else with similar feelings.

Regarding the children thing, and I’ve stated this before, but $4,000-6,000 is a lot of money to me. That’s what I call “big girl/big boy” money. For me to spend that kind of money on an experience, personally, I would want it to feel as mature as possible. Starcruiser doesn’t come off that way to me at all, and that’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t spend my money on it. There are plenty of childish things that I love. Disneyland, of course. I love going to Shakey’s. It’s simple fun and very nostalgic. Plus, the mojo’s are still tasty after all these years and the games are fun. But the amount of money that is being asked of me for these experiences are not at the exorbitant level that Starcruiser’s prices are at. So for that reason alone, I have to really think about where that money is going, what I’m getting in return, and if it’s personally worth it to spend all that “big girl/big boy” money for the experience. Personally, it’s a no. If that means that I think I’m better than those who want to spend their money on this and I think these people are “beneath” me, then so be it.🤷🏾‍♀️ I don’t think it does, but some others do.

BTW, is your actual first name Jasmine?
 

jasminethecat

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Thank you. I feel the same way, but for kind of different reasons. I’m an extrovert, so I love being around people, including strangers, and love the energy I get from crowds, events, parties, and people in general. With that being said, I’m generally fine with LARPing, but only for so long. Disney Parks have LARPing elements to them, but there’s a difference between walking around a theme park and catching a 15+ minute show that includes LARPing and staying at a hotel for two straight days and LARPing is not only part of the experience, but it’s all around you. Like you, I would personally feel exhausted from an experience like that. It really is just too much for me. If I’m going to a hotel, I don’t want there to be any role-playing. That doesn’t mean that I think I’m better or that I’m too good for an experience like that. It just means I don’t want to do it. Same goes for you and anyone else with similar feelings.

Regarding the children thing, and I’ve stated this before, but $4,000-6,000 is a lot of money to me. That’s what I call “big girl/big boy” money. For me to spend that kind of money on an experience, personally, I would want it to feel as mature as possible. Starcruiser doesn’t come off that way to me at all, and that’s one of the reasons I wouldn’t spend my money on it. There are plenty of childish things that I love. Disneyland, of course. I love going to Shakey’s. It’s simple fun and very nostalgic. Plus, the mojo’s are still tasty after all these years and the games are fun. But the amount of money that is being asked of me for these experiences are not at the exorbitant level that Starcruiser’s prices are at. So for that reason alone, I have to really think about where that money is going, what I’m getting in return, and if it’s personally worth it to spend all that “big girl/big boy” money for the experience. Personally, it’s a no. If that means that I think I’m better than those who want to spend their money on this and I think these people are “beneath” me, then so be it.🤷🏾‍♀️ I don’t think it does, but some others do.

BTW, is your actual first name Jasmine?

My first name is Ryan. To answer to the obvious question, I am a guy. I had a cat named Jasmine. She died, I was sad. So I named my account after her. :) I would imagine your account is "That's so...", you're from the Baltimore area, or you're a DC comics fan.
 

Californian Elitist

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My first name is Ryan. To answer to the obvious question, I am a guy. I had a cat named Jasmine. She died, I was sad. So I named my account after her. :) I would imagine your account is "That's so...", you're from the Baltimore area, or you're a DC comics fan.
I’m so sorry to hear about the death of your cat. Death of pets is one of the worst experiences.

My first name is Jasmine and my middle name is Raven. I definitely get a lot of That’s So Raven and Aladdin jokes. What’s funny is my initial name was supposed to be Jennifer Ryan, but my mom shared a bit too much and my aunt took the name and named her daughter, my cousin, Jennifer Ryan. My mom ended up giving my brother the middle name Ryan. So we have some names in common.😉
 

jasminethecat

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I’m so sorry to hear about the death of your cat. Death of pets is one of the worst experiences.

My first name is Jasmine and my middle name is Raven. I definitely get a lot of That’s So Raven and Aladdin jokes. What’s funny is my initial name was supposed to be Jennifer Ryan, but my mom shared a bit too much and my aunt took the name and named her daughter, my cousin, Jennifer Ryan. My mom ended up giving my brother the middle name Ryan. So we have some names in common.😉
Jasmine died a LONG time ago, almost 2 decades now. The pain has long since subsided. I have had several cats since then, and I still have 4 cats alive right now. But jasmine was the first cat i ever owned (and the first to pass away), so she gets the screen name honors.

I am glad that we successfully derailed this thread. Fun facts - If you had been named Ryan, you'd actually be the 5th female I would have known with that name (two are close to my age, which was surprising). In Gaelic it means "little king" and was intended to be a male name with Ryanne as the female equivalent, but in the past few decades it has gained popularity as a gender-neutral first name. I am sure I am biased but it seems to be a cool Irish name.
 

GimpYancIent

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If the price is the only real concern from the audience, Disney can easily adjust it. I'd imagine the $6,000 was pegged to curb demand, in line with their other price adjustments recently, but if the demand dries up, they probably have a lot of room to move that down before they have to start cutting the experience.

I haven't seen many of the videos at all, but I wonder how much of the storytelling could be adopted to Galaxy's Edge when it's had it's play at the Starcruiser and new stories are available.
Yes, absolutely the biggest problem with this whole experience is the price. The greedy arrogance of the Disney Co in pricing this experience is an insult to the paying guests. It is not a matter of can a guest pay the price, though fun it is whether the experience is worth the price. I am sure Disney Co could make a tidy profit off this experience at half the price and have assure long term bookings but the money grab is a blatant slap in the face.
 

TP2000

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But I am fairly introverted and I am not into the LARP aspect as much as I thought I might be. I have family members of my own who could be called "drama queens" in the most positive sense - they like being loud, being the center of attention, singing in front of anyone and playing dress up. I love these family members and I am happy they like who they are, but it does actually get tiring for me personally at times when they go "full Glee mode" for hours on end during family trips. I don't consider them childish, I just think they're cut from a very different mold than I am.

My goodness, you are being incredibly gracious and kind! It's genuinely impressive. :)

If that was my family (and thankfully it's not), I would either go for very long walks in the woods, or set up a bartab and reserve a stool in the hotel's lounge immediately. Probably a combination of those two survival skills.

So if this is what a star wars exclusive experience looks like at Disney, then I am sorry but it's not for me either.

I agree with you. I love Disney entertainment in general; Hoop De Doo Revue, Hyperion Theatre productions, Paint The Night, Fantasmic!, the All-American College Band, etc. And I'm a crazed lunatic fan about Viva Navidad!

But looking at the videos of this Starcruiser experience just does nothing for me. It seems exhausting and weird. And oddly cheap and hokey at times. And far too dependent on staring at your phone. If there's a family out there that thinks this is worth their 6 grand, go for it! But I don't know anyone like that, personally. And it's definitely not for me.
 

waltography

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I've said a lot on the WDW side, but to sum it up here after sitting with all the videos and recaps: I am glad this experience exists, I don't know if I'll ever experience it myself, but I worry for the direction of themed entertainment if this (waving my hands at the paywalling and lack of scalability) becomes the norm.

I'm thrilled the Starcruiser exists as a sort of proof of concept for all of the interesting HCI research Disney's R&D has put out over the years concerning Live Interactive Narratives (LINs) and the systems used to manage them (some examples include here for the interactions between data pads and real-life characters, and here for scheduling story beats given resource/time/social limitations). I wish I were in the Game Master's room for this experience just to listen and observe.
 
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jasminethecat

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It seems exhausting and weird. And oddly cheap and hokey at times.
If we take off our nostalgia glasses, all of the OT was very cheap and very hokey, so it actually fits that theme especially if you're old enough to remember the non-special edition and non-remastered versions of the films. It's funnier to realize that all other sci-fi at the time was so much more cheap and hokey that it made SW look like masterpiece theater.
 

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