Galactic Starcruiser: DLR Opinions

[D.Silentu]

I think that those of us who have been stating that that the experience isn't for us have a pretty clear understanding that we are not the target audience.

A little more pepper for the pot, but I think that I am the target audience and yet the Starcruiser doesn't really appeal to me either. Last fall I paid just above one hundred dollars for an hour long interactive theatre experience. I realize that will sound exorbitant to some, but to me it was an exciting sixty minutes of escapism. Evaluating my experiences with this medium, I'm shocked by how much I have seen is possible in contrast to what Disney has done here. A few examples: Actors jumping off a two story structure, characters flying and levitating, swinging on a rope Indiana Jones style, being pulled through a trapdoor. I could go on, but the point is there is so much that has been done, but that groundwork seems lost on Disney. Raven24, some pages ago you described the Disney experience as treating it's guests like children. I think that assessment goes a long way to illustrate part of the Starcruiser's off putting approach, for me at least.

As Example #48 of the cheapness, this is "Lightsaber Training". It's basically a flashlight shining out of a hole in the wall in a dramatically lit room, with audio effects from a surround sound system.

This is one of the most disappointing aspects of the hotel, largely since they have been boasting about it since the announcement. Correct me if I'm off base, but this seems to be the equivalent to Universal's magic wands that they cooked up. I think the results speak for themselves. There are far better ways to have implemented this, but chiefly it once again it looks like they are poorly portraying the notion that guests are undertaking a genuinely unique experience.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Raven24, some pages ago you described the Disney experience as treating it's guests like children. I think that assessment goes a long way to illustrate part of the Starcruiser's off putting approach, for me at least.

Absolutely, same for me. I would prefer a much more mature experience. For thousands of dollars, I don't want to play bingo, take simple and yet corny dance lessons, take lighstaber training lessons that aren't impressive at all, or interact with corny characters that Disney has created for this experience (the Captain, Gaia (however her name is spelled), etc).

I honestly think spending hours doing these activities and interacting with the characters and other mega fans would give me a big headache and cause me to return to my room as quickly as possible with two big bottles of Moscato and Netflix on my mind.

 

[CaptinEO]

Hahahahaha I am not calm at all. I lose my patience sometimes (I wasn't like this when I first joined a decade ago, but you know...the internet) People take me there sometimes, but with this, I thought it was very obvious that people aren't reading/understanding the posts. It also seems that some people feel some type of way because we're admitting that we wouldn't spend money on this. I don't see why that's wrong. And yeah, most of the stuff I've seen in videos is absolute cringe or corny. That's how I feel.

I disagree. You always seem calm and balance out the extremes that I usually see. I definitely love seeing how you can explain to people / diffuse situations so nicely.

In an era when everyone wants to jump to extremes it is always great to see you do the opposite.

As for this hotel. It's about as "Star Wars" as "The Simpsons" is Disney. No amount of branding can change my mind. Disney just doesn't understand Star Wars, hotels, or even themeparks.

It isn't even about money. You would have to pay me to go to this thing, it just looks like it's targeted for little kids.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Frankly, Galaxy’s Edge as it stands is enough Star Wars for me. After two rides, a quick meal, a stop in a shop or two, I’m happy to move on. At least at Disneyland. At the Studios there’s much less to do, so we hung out longer.

 

[SSG]

This is one of the most confusing things I've seen online in quite some time.

But when he got to the "You do Fosse! You do Fosse!" part with a modified Rich Man's Frug, I had the best laugh of the day. So at least there was that!

But I feel badly for the CM's here. Those two Stormtrooper guys deserved a large meat lovers pizza and a case of beer sent to their Orlando apartment complex for having to deal with that.

One of the best scenes ever.




"But you keep it all inside."

 

[No Name]

I think that those of us who have been stating that that the experience isn't for us have a pretty clear understanding that we are not the target audience.

Well TP2000 is expressing “concerns,” people loved Brayden’s video on why it’s going to be a failure, etc.

But for those aware they’re not the target audience, it’s just an odd conversation then, a bunch of people who have no interest in the far-away concept pointing out that they have no interest every time they see a new aspect of it that doesn’t interest them. Either that or there’s an angle to the opinions that they won’t admit.

 

[el_super]

But for those aware they’re not the target audience, it’s just an odd conversation then, a bunch of people who have no interest in the far-away concept pointing out that they have no interest every time they see a new aspect of it that doesn’t interest them. Either that or there’s an angle to the opinions that they won’t admit.

You could ask me if I was interested in Disney Junior, and I would tell you I am not. But I don't feel a need to continually reassert that I am not interested in Disney Junior or start drawing off comparisons to other parts of the company that do interest me. Or to start making assertions that Disney Junior will be a failed concept, or indicates that they don't understand their audience, simply based on the premise that it's not for me. It's an odd stance to take.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I created this thread for the reasons directly stated in the title. As more and more people respond, including people who are commenting for the first time, people will naturally reiterate their opinions, as the same with other threads.

If some of you think this thread/discussion is pointless, please stop responding to it. Kindly ignore it and pick another thread to respond to.

 

[No Name]

I don’t think it’s pointless.

 

[Practical Pig]

But for those aware they’re not the target audience, it’s just an odd conversation then, a bunch of people who have no interest in the far-away concept pointing out that they have no interest every time they see a new aspect of it that doesn’t interest them. Either that or there’s an angle to the opinions that they won’t admit.

On the contrary, there is nothing remotely odd about Disney fans offering their opinions about the shiny new thing that Disney has done in a thread that in the very thread title calls for the opinions of participants in the DLR forum. This is just business as usual.

 

[el_super]

On the contrary, there is nothing remotely odd about Disney fans offering their opinions about the shiny new thing that Disney has done in a thread that in the very thread title calls for the opinions of participants in the DLR forum. This is just business as usual.

It is business as usual, but it's also further indication that the fan community has become more insulated and inward looking. Ultimately it is leading to more confusion and derision when X project doesn't appeal to someone personally, but is still has value to the outside world. When these projects end up being well liked, well reviewed and fully booked, the fans just end up being more enraged and convinced that Disney doesn't understand their own (still rather successful) business.

There is a big disconnect here.

 

[mlayton144]

Well TP2000 is expressing “concerns,” people loved Brayden’s video on why it’s going to be a failure, etc.

But for those aware they’re not the target audience, it’s just an odd conversation then, a bunch of people who have no interest in the far-away concept pointing out that they have no interest every time they see a new aspect of it that doesn’t interest them. Either that or there’s an angle to the opinions that they won’t admit.

I tend to agree with you, so far the reviews I have seen have been pretty positive from sources I respect which I wasn’t expecting (at all) given the price. One of them had a great point - a way to look at it is like a 42 hour attraction/living story that you participate in to the extent that want to. The guests sincerely seemed to enjoy their time there. Definitely some cringe moments in the videos I saw - but i would say I have that same feeling in many Disney live action shows - pretty much all of them. I think my family of 5 would actually really enjoy this - I still can’t quite come to grips with the price though.

 

[Practical Pig]

When these projects end up being well liked, well reviewed and fully booked, the fans just end up being more enraged and convinced that Disney doesn't understand their own (still rather successful) business.

I agree, as I've said before, that the Starcruiser experience is initially successful. I expressed pleasure that it confounded the doom and gloom pre-opening predictions. I hope the endeavor has legs.

I'm not seeing any rage around here.

 

[Californian Elitist]

It is business as usual, but it's also further indication that the fan community has become more insulated and inward looking. Ultimately it is leading to more confusion and derision when X project doesn't appeal to someone personally, but is still has value to the outside world. When these projects end up being well liked, well reviewed and fully booked, the fans just end up being more enraged and convinced that Disney doesn't understand their own (still rather successful) business.

There is a big disconnect here.

Where are these enraged fans that you speak of?

 

[Mac Tonight]

DiSnEy GaLaCtIc StArCrUiSeR?!?!?! HoW dArE yOu?!?!?!?!

 

[el_super]

Where are these enraged fans that you speak of?

I'm speaking generally of the "Disney doesn't understand their business" / "Disney has lost their way" / "Walt would be so disappointed" / "They're too greedy" set of people.

At the point that you're basically poking fun at the people that could like this thing, you've lost the point.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I'm speaking generally of the "Disney doesn't understand their business" / "Disney has lost their way" / "Walt would be so disappointed" / "They're too greedy" set of people.

At the point that you're basically poking fun at the people that could like this thing, you've lost the point.

That doesn’t sound like enraged people to me.

I disagree with your last point.

 

[D.Silentu]

I'm more upset that what had the potential to be a very fun, involved, lively, and entertaining land in Disneyland was instead turned into a 6 thousand dollar upcharge. And now Disneyland and Disney world have a MASSIVE empty Star Wars Land that feels lifeless.

I hear you, however I feel that may offer us a shred of possibility. Hollywood Studios is unlikely to ever receive walk around or in land entertainment because it might cannibalize the offerings on the Starcruiser. At Disneyland there is no alternate draw for such characters or shows, so we might see such things come to the land at some point.

 

[TP2000]

Well TP2000 is expressing “concerns,” people loved Brayden’s video on why it’s going to be a failure, etc.

But for those aware they’re not the target audience, it’s just an odd conversation then, a bunch of people who have no interest in the far-away concept pointing out that they have no interest every time they see a new aspect of it that doesn’t interest them. Either that or there’s an angle to the opinions that they won’t admit.

This is a Disney theme park message board, where we discuss stuff Disney puts in its theme park resorts. The Starcruiser is a new thing they once announced at D23 Expo. Bob Chapek used all his big words to describe it. So we're talking about it.

There's not much more to it than that. Would you prefer we discuss when to fertilize backyard citrus trees in a place like Villa Park which is stubbornly right on the line of the USDA Hardiness Zone 10A and 10B?

Because I could go on and on about that for days. But it would be OT.

Instead, I'm going to talk about how low Disney's once-vaunted standards have become. Like how they have put all the CM's in this "immersive adventure" in cheap, shapeless, meaningless uniforms like this that look like a dental hygienist in an Ohio strip mall instead of a tailored and luxurious looking employee on a fancy galactic spaceliner. Or do you think this is actually good?

 

[TP2000]

One of the best scenes ever.




"But you keep it all inside."

I have been using the "Try more gum!" line for decades now. But I'd forgotten about the Fosse line until this thread.

It's a hilarious movie that I haven't seen in many years, but I'm now going to watch again. It's been far too long.