This is amazing. I would not complain about something like this. It looks real enough and doesn’t come off as too artificial.
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Galactic Starcruiser: DLR Opinions
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chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
- No
If you look up the Stagecraft technology they use on The Mandalorian, not only are the screens so high resolution that it fools you into not knowing 99% of the show is filmed indoors, but they use the light from the screens to light the sets because the reflections and colors on the set pieces match the environment on the screens.
The clarity, resolution, and light is there in the technology which we see on Rise of the Resistance, the problem is depth perception. As nice as the screens in the windows are in RotR, the fact that they aren't 3D takes me just that slight bit out of full immersion.
I'm not suggesting 3D glasses either. Disney patented a technology for multi-plane screens, and everyone thought this tech was going to be used in the hotel. (Google "disney patent multiplane")
The fact they didn't use this tech in the hotel is mind blowing and just adds to the things that cheapen the place.
They say it can hold 100-500 people. Lets say they pulled in 300 people a night. At about $750/night average, that's $82 million a year in revenue. Is that not enough to offset building costs of something spectacular and expenses to run it for a year? Absolutely nuts.
If it was a amazing as it possibly could be, I'd pay the money. As it stands now....not a chance.
ParkPeeker
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I watched the Mandalorian but never checked to see behind the scenes, that’s amazing.
But I don’t think it’s used on rotr, I’ve been on the ride, and the “morning on batuu” moments don’t feel real, in terms of lighting. The escape pod still just feels like a completely dark room looking at a bright screen. If there’s an window in an enclosed space, the morning should light the whole space up, like my room’s window ain’t that big and it still lights the whole room up in the morning.
But damn I’ll have to look all that up, thanks for bringing it up
ParkPeeker
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But on the real, imagine perfected simulation technology, the ship could travel to different planets in daylight, back and forth from space and to different planets. Looking out the bridge, on all sorts of different planets as realistic looking as this 
(not using this as an example of what view would be outside, but on how realistic it should look from the inside)
(not using this as an example of what view would be outside, but on how realistic it should look from the inside)
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CaptinEO
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You summarize it perfectly. Why is it "immersed", and in a timeline no one likes or cares about?Issa no for me, as the kids say.
I get what they were going for, but the execution seems off.
A glaring problem for me is that it seems to suffer the same fate as Star Wars Land; it's set in some weird timeframe where alll the cool characters except Chewbacca are dead. Or maybe they haven't been born yet? I honestly can't keep it straight which came first in "the timeline", Princess Leia or the boring gal who wears the gauzy linen outfits. I far prefer Princess Leia. Whatever the reason, all the cool kids are missing on the Starcruiser. No Han Solo, no Luke, no Leia, no Obi Wan, no Darth Vader, not even Billy Dee Williams. I guess Yoda shows up in a hologram sometimes?
Layer that storyline issue with the fact that it was designed and developed solely under the executive leadership of Bob Chapek since 2016, and the cheapness and budget cuts are too noticeable to excuse. The CM uniforms, the decor, the lack of characters, the lack of kinetics, the smaller windows into space, the cheesy effects, the boring space terminal, etc., etc.
A year from now I honestly don't expect it to be operating as it is today, if it's even still open.
I'm spending my money on Ukrainian vodka. Well, okay, it was only 30 bucks, but tonight I bought the very last bottle of Ukrainian vodka left in OC and I'm going to pick it up tomorrow. I don't even drink vodka, but I'm too old to re-enlist and I had to do something!
It would be like making the next Disney Park have a castle from Cinderella 3: A Twist in Time and only follow that storyline.
The theming is like a Star Wars themed kids party that a mom put together.
CaptinEO
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Disney bought Star Wars but chose to just make their own generic science fiction. I don't know why they decided to even buy Star Wars if this was their plan.
The Star Wars Trilogy are probably my most watched films of all time too, so this is coming from a fan.
Fanfiction stuff is fine for novels/comic books, but themeparks? Makes no sense.
The Star Wars Trilogy are probably my most watched films of all time too, so this is coming from a fan.
Fanfiction stuff is fine for novels/comic books, but themeparks? Makes no sense.
chadwpalm
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- In the Parks
- No
Watch this video specifically. It will blow your mind.I watched the Mandalorian but never checked to see behind the scenes, that’s amazing.
But I don’t think it’s used on rotr, I’ve been on the ride, and the “morning on batuu” moments don’t feel real, in terms of lighting. The escape pod still just feels like a completely dark room looking at a bright screen. If there’s an window in an enclosed space, the morning should light the whole space up, like my room’s window ain’t that big and it still lights the whole room up in the morning.
But damn I’ll have to look all that up, thanks for bringing it up
GimpYancIent
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I am an SW fan, have enjoyed and like Batuu. The Star Wars Space Cruise Immersive Experience looks like fun, the food looks interesting, but, and that is a big "but" the price is outrageous for a G rated, 2-day game that is SW themed. So, I will not be going.
I agree. Of course I’m just basing this on a bunch of YouTube videos, so I don’t know for sure, but so far, it comes off as a high end kids’ Star Wars birthday party. Not your neighborhood birthday party when the costumes come from a bootleg Party City, which is saying a lot, but still not very good and too kiddie.
I mentioned this earlier, but the company has gone overboard with the kiddie stuff, especially the rhetoric. Whenever I read about something new coming from Disney, sometimes I feel like I’m sitting in a kindergarten class with my classmates huddled together on the floor while Ms. Smith tells us about our brand new coloring books. There’s a way to get the message across in a fun way and still talk to us like we’re adults.
Wait Disney was able to do it just fine. No overuse of “magic,” or other words Disney loves to use over and over again…just speaking to his audience. And it worked.
ParkPeeker
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Yea this definitely wasn’t used on rotr, at least not lighting wise. That’s incredible how much control the film makers have with this!
Now if this was fine tuned and added with the 3d parallax wall thing you were mentioning, I can see it being translated into themed attractions very well.
Professortango1
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A lot of assumptions being made here. My students enjoy the new trilogy and care more about Rey and Kylo Ren than Vader and Luke. I know I'm bored with OT ideas as they are older than I am. We need to stop clinging to these old movies as if they are perfect. I'm down for new Star Wars experiences rather than repeats of stuff I've already seen duplicated everywhere.
TP2000
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Yes, that's exactly it. And when I read @raven24's post three minutes ago I instantly thought it was an idea with incredible merit!
Because it reminds me of a hotel that already exists, built by a hotel chain that wildly excels at these hotels.
It's in southern Utah, it's called Amangiri, and it's run by the ultra-luxury hotelier Aman. You can technically drive to Amangiri (it's very remote), but many guests arrive via helicopter. You are out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by ultra luxury and exotic landscapes. The dining is 5 star, and the service is impeccable. Curated adventure trips into the vast surrounding desert are available. The hotel is stark and modern, every room is it's own casita with a plunge pool, and the star is the abandoned landscape for miles in all directions.
Layer on a Star Wars storytelling and special effects to an Aman experience, and the result would be incredible. That said, the operational logistics of this would likely be beyond Disney's ability or desire to attempt. Especially with Bob Chapek at the helm.
But it is a product that exists in exotic locations around the world, and has been wildly succesful for Aman. I have stayed in their property in Tokyo, where I was literally cocooned in ultra modern silent luxury at the top of a stealth skyscraper for two nights, and it was heaven. (But I do not recommend moving directly from the Aman to Tokyo Disneyland like I did, unless you want cultural whiplash) My destroyed international travel plans for 2021 had me staying two nights at Aman's Kyoto location, but Covid ruined that. I have a reservation to splurge on myself this fall with a couple nights at Amangiri once I've moved to Utah, as sort of a "Welcome To Your New Forever State" for myself.
Amangiri in southern Utah...
Luxury Five-Star Hotel & Resort in Utah, USA - Amangiri
Explore Amangiri, a secluded resort in Canyon Point, Utah. Perfect for adrenaline-fuelled adventure and peaceful desert retreats. Book with Aman today.
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ParkPeeker
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Not to mention all the different animated shows and video games that expand the world of Star Wars in a good way. Star Wars is huge.
ParkPeeker
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That looks awesome but if it already exists for the most part, is it worth it to build another one, the only difference being they added a Star Wars theme/added a few effects?Yes, that's exactly it. And when I read @raven24's post three minutes ago I instantly thought it was an idea with incredible merit!
Because it reminds me of a hotel that already exists, built by a hotel chain that wildly excels at these hotels.
It's in southern Utah, it's called Amangiri, and it's run by the ultra-luxury hotel Aman. You can technically drive to Amangiri (it's very remote), but many guests arrive via helicopter. You are out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by ultra luxury and exotic landscapes. The dining is 5 star, and the service is impeccable. Curated adventure trips into the vast surrounding desert are available. The hotel is stark and modern, every room is it's own casita with a plunge pool, and the star is the abandoned landscape for miles in all directions.
Layer on a Star Wars storytelling and special effects to an Aman experience, and the result would be incredible. That said, the operational logistics of this would likely be beyond Disney's ability or desire to attempt. Especially with Bob Chapek at the helm.
But it is a product that exists in exotic locations around the world, and has been wildly succesful for Aman. I have stayed in their property in Tokyo, where I was literally cocooned in ultra modern silent luxury at the top of a stealth skyscraper for two nights, and it was heaven. (But I do not recommend moving directly from the Aman to Tokyo Disneyland like I did, unless you want cultural whiplash) My destroyed international travel plans for 2021 had me staying two nights at Aman's Kyoto location, but Covid ruined that. My plan is to splurge on myself this fall with a couple nights at Amangiri once I've moved to Utah, as sort of a "Welcome To Your New Forever State" for myself.
Amangiri in southern Utah...
Luxury Five-Star Hotel & Resort in Utah, USA - Amangiri
Explore Amangiri, a secluded resort in Canyon Point, Utah. Perfect for adrenaline-fuelled adventure and peaceful desert retreats. Book with Aman today.www.aman.com
TP2000
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If Disney's goal was actually to build an "immersive Star Wars adventure", then yes it would be worth it.
What Disney just built next to a freeway cloverleaf behind Hollywood Studios in Florida is not actually an "immersive adventure" like they promised. It misses the mark.
But that's partly on us as Disney consumers. They keep announcing stuff breathlessly at D23 Expo with over-the-top language and impressive words and slick concept art that always overpromises. Then the new thing opens four years later and it never lives up to the hype from their own D23 Expo announcement. Galactic Starcruiser is just the most recent, and one of the most precise, examples of that word salad bait and switch.
Aman Hotels has already proven there's an audience for luxury hotel experiences in remote or exotic locations. If Disney had taken that concept and layered on real Star Wars storytelling and placemaking, it would have been incredible.
Instead, Bob Chapek gave us whatever this is...
ParkPeeker
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Ok I have not seen this video at all lol. All the videos I’ve watched focused on the actual game esque aspect of the experience. (I’m not on Twitter) The actual part that made all these people want to go again to “complete” the game 100% so to speak.
It’s hella overpriced and I do think it needs a lot of improvement. But that video does not encapsulate the experience
TP2000
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That's a valid point. That lobby dance lesson video does not encapsulate the experience.
But it happens, and because of that it cheapens the experience.
Much like the Crown of Corellia Dining Room cheapens the experience, or the frumpy inexpensive CM uniforms cheapen the experience, or Space Bingo...
ParkPeeker
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Yea you’re right, I agree it cheapens the experience it’s my first time seeing this lmao, they could have come up with much better side activities..
But I was responding to your closing statement here, in whcih you summarize the whole experience with that video
TP2000
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Again, a big thank you to @raven24 for mentioning building this hotel in a remote desert landscape!
I'd been on that sprawling Starcruiser thread on the WDW for the past few weeks, and I hadn't even thought of that!
But the moment Raven said it, I immediately said out loud "Amangiri!", and I was off on another tangent criticizing Chapek's downgraded and cheaped out thing he built in Florida.
I'd been on that sprawling Starcruiser thread on the WDW for the past few weeks, and I hadn't even thought of that!
But the moment Raven said it, I immediately said out loud "Amangiri!", and I was off on another tangent criticizing Chapek's downgraded and cheaped out thing he built in Florida.
mlayton144
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Yes, that's exactly it. And when I read @raven24's post three minutes ago I instantly thought it was an idea with incredible merit!
Because it reminds me of a hotel that already exists, built by a hotel chain that wildly excels at these hotels.
It's in southern Utah, it's called Amangiri, and it's run by the ultra-luxury hotelier Aman. You can technically drive to Amangiri (it's very remote), but many guests arrive via helicopter. You are out in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by ultra luxury and exotic landscapes. The dining is 5 star, and the service is impeccable. Curated adventure trips into the vast surrounding desert are available. The hotel is stark and modern, every room is it's own casita with a plunge pool, and the star is the abandoned landscape for miles in all directions.
Layer on a Star Wars storytelling and special effects to an Aman experience, and the result would be incredible. That said, the operational logistics of this would likely be beyond Disney's ability or desire to attempt. Especially with Bob Chapek at the helm.
But it is a product that exists in exotic locations around the world, and has been wildly succesful for Aman. I have stayed in their property in Tokyo, where I was literally cocooned in ultra modern silent luxury at the top of a stealth skyscraper for two nights, and it was heaven. (But I do not recommend moving directly from the Aman to Tokyo Disneyland like I did, unless you want cultural whiplash) My destroyed international travel plans for 2021 had me staying two nights at Aman's Kyoto location, but Covid ruined that. I have a reservation to splurge on myself this fall with a couple nights at Amangiri once I've moved to Utah, as sort of a "Welcome To Your New Forever State" for myself.
Amangiri in southern Utah...
Luxury Five-Star Hotel & Resort in Utah, USA - Amangiri
Explore Amangiri, a secluded resort in Canyon Point, Utah. Perfect for adrenaline-fuelled adventure and peaceful desert retreats. Book with Aman today.
What kind of demographic target market do you think Disney is pursuing ? It certainly isn’t anything close to what you posted