Galactic Starcruiser: DLR Opinions

[denyuntilcaught]

My question is, has there been any murmurs of them wanting to bring SW:GS to DLR?

 

[mickEblu]

My question is, has there been any murmurs of them wanting to bring SW:GS to DLR?

In another world where MMRR wasn’t coming to Toontown I could see them putting the Galactic Starcruiser there. I’m glad we re not in that world.

 

[el_super]

My question is, has there been any murmurs of them wanting to bring SW:GS to DLR?

I haven't seen any, but strangely I think it would do far better here in California than it will in Florida.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I saw someone say that this should have been built in a remote location, nowhere near WDW property, and I agree. Maybe somewhere like Joshua Tree, kind of barren, but has a beautiful landscape. Make it less cheesy, more sophisticated (basically, un-Disney-fy it), remove the corny and nauseating role play, and make it cheaper, and as a non Star Wars fan, I’d actually may consider doing an experience like that.

 

[Practical Pig]

My question is, has there been any murmurs of them wanting to bring SW:GS to DLR?

I seem to remember that there were tentative plans (or maybe just rumors) to build one in Anaheim as well back when the project was first announced. Those fizzled out quickly. I expect that if they were planning to build one here, they would have waited to see how the inaugural version in Florida fared.

Maybe an Anaheim version is still simmering on a back burner, but I think that pot has been dumped.

 

[ParkPeeker]

I saw someone say that this should have been built in a remote location, nowhere near WDW property, and I agree. Maybe somewhere like Joshua Tree, kind of barren, but has a beautiful landscape. Make it less cheesy, more sophisticated (basically, un-Disney-fy it), remove the corny and nauseating role play, and make it cheaper, and as a non Star Wars fan, I’d actually may consider doing an experience like that.

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Isn’t that just fancier national park lodges then? What’s the point then? Much of the time spent at a national or state park should be used for hiking the trails/ being outside anyways, not being inside some fancy hotel.

If they were to build something in an empty beautiful landscape, remove the role playing and just make it more sophisticated, then it is just a fancy hotel in the middle of a landscape far from society. And at that point, are people even there mainly for the hotel itself? What is the actual hotel even for other than lodging for the trip, maybe it’s a casino? There’s nothing particularly exciting about this hypothetical building, it’s unimaginative and doesn’t move anything forward.

The whole point of what Disney tried/is trying to do is for people to get lost in another world, to escape into a different reality as completely as possible. It really isn’t a “hotel,” it’s more of a live attraction, an interactive setting, a livable story. There is A LOT of improvement to be done, but it’s a much better, more imaginative idea to chase than fancy lodging in the middle of landscape, if we can even call lodging an idea.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Isn’t that just fancier national park lodges then? What’s the point then? Much of the time spent at a national or state park should be used for hiking the trails/ being outside anyways, not being inside some fancy hotel.

If they were to build something in an empty beautiful landscape, remove the role playing and just make it more sophisticated, then it is just a fancy hotel in the middle of a landscape far from society. And at that point, are people even there mainly for the hotel itself? What is the actual hotel even for other than lodging for the trip, maybe it’s a casino? There’s nothing particularly exciting about this hypothetical building, it’s unimaginative and doesn’t move anything forward.

The whole point of what Disney tried/is trying to do is for people to get lost in another world, to escape into a different reality as completely as possible. It really isn’t a “hotel,” it’s more of a live attraction, an interactive setting, a livable story. There is A LOT of improvement to be done, but it’s a much better, more imaginative idea to chase than fancy lodging in the middle of landscape, if we can even call lodging an idea.

I’m specifically referring to what I would prefer and what I would have liked to see, according to my personal preferences. I didn’t say build it at an actual national park. I simply gave the example of Joshua Tree as a reference for the landscape I thought of in my head (once again, a bit barren, but still beautiful). Building something like this at a national park wouldn’t make sense. Not sure where the casino thing is coming from.

This doesn’t have to be on Disney property to achieve escapism. I also disagree about the sophisticated thing. There’s no need for this to be cheesy and corny for it to work. This is what’s wrong with Disney today. They think of their own products as very childlike and elementary and they talk to their own fans as if they were dumb children all the time. It’s ridiculous.

 

[ParkPeeker]

I’m specifically referring to what I would prefer and what I would have liked to see, according to my personal preferences. I didn’t say build it at an actual national park. I simply gave the example of Joshua Tree as a reference for the landscape I thought of in my head (once again, a bit barren, but still beautiful). Building something like this at a national park wouldn’t make sense. Not sure where the casino thing is coming from.

This doesn’t have to be on Disney property to achieve escapism.

Of course it doesn’t, but why even build this hypothetical hotel in the first place, what does it bring to the table to differentiate it. What are you going there for?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Of course it doesn’t, but why even build this hypothetical hotel in the first place, what does it bring to the table to differentiate it. What are you going there for?

What do you mean why build this hypothetical hotel/what am I going there for? What do you think?

I think we have different views and what works and what doesn’t, hence why you’re having a hard time understanding my idea. It would basically be the same thing Disney is going for, but less corny and less Disney. Simple as that.

 

[ParkPeeker]

What do you mean why build this hypothetical hotel/what am I going there for? What do you think?

I think we have different views and what works and what doesn’t, hence why you’re having a hard time understanding my idea. It would basically be the same thing Disney is going for, but less corny and less Disney. Simple as that.

So you’re there, in this remote place as you said, in that particular hotel, for the hotel itself because it’s fancy? As opposed to other lodging that may also exist in this remote place. I’m trying to get a detailed picture of what your idea of what should exist.

 

[Californian Elitist]

So you’re there, in this remote place as you said, in that particular hotel, for the hotel itself because it’s fancy? As opposed to other lodging that may also exist in this remote place. I’m trying to get a detailed picture of what your idea of what should exist.

No, not because it’s fancy. Because it would be more appropriate for a Star Wars themed setting than anywhere on a Disney theme park property, in my opinion, for various reasons.

 

[ParkPeeker]

No, not because it’s fancy. Because it would be more appropriate for a Star Wars themed setting than anywhere on a Disney theme park property, in my opinion, for various reasons.

Ok so Tatooine esque themed hotel in a remote area?

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

I seem to remember that there were tentative plans (or maybe just rumors) to build one in Anaheim as well back when the project was first announced. Those fizzled out quickly. I expect that if they were planning to build one here, they would have waited to see how the inaugural version in Florida fared.

Maybe an Anaheim version is still simmering on a back burner, but I think that pot has been dumped.

If the one in FL does well, they will certainly do something similar in CA. Maybe Marvel instead of SW? But, we are probably at least a year or 2 away from seeing if the one in FL is a success.

 

[chadwpalm]

If I was rich and money was no object, maybe I'd check it out once. Even then I'd have a hard time justifying the price with the quality. As it stands now, it's probably something I'd never want to spend money on. For that price, if I was going to fly to Florida, I'd rather take my family to do the rest of WDW and maybe Universal.

Regarding cruises, I've done one. It was a Carnival cruise that left from Long Beach (the old Spruce Goose hanger). It was a three day four night cruise that stopped at Catalina and Ensenada. If I remember correctly it was about $225, but as others have stated, there were things we still had to pay for. Sodas and alcohol you had to purchase (Coffee, Tea, Lemonade were free), and if you wanted to do any of the off-ship excursions you had to pay extra. We stuck to the free stuff, but still had a really fun time. The food was good and the shows were fun. They had night clubs, a casino, and karaoke. I'd do it again for the price.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Ok so Tatooine esque themed hotel in a remote area?

Yes, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Tatooine is always the first planet that comes to mind when I think of Star Wars, for whatever reason.

Personally, I’d rather be somewhere that looked like an actual Star Wars planet than not, if possible (I know it’s impossible for other planets). If I can look outside my window and the landscape actually looks like Tatooine, in this case, I would pick that option over somewhere with screens. But I understand the appeal of screens as well. I think they can be useful.

I stated this earlier, but Starcruiser isn’t for me and my personal tastes. For those that are really interested in this and could see themselves having a great time, I say go for it and enjoy it as much as you can.

 

[chadwpalm]

If the one in FL does well, they will certainly do something similar in CA. Maybe Marvel instead of SW? But, we are probably at least a year or 2 away from seeing if the one in FL is a success.

I dunno. Disney had a hard time trying to put a normal 4th hotel on the property, so I'm not sure how easy it would be to put this on DLR property. It would have fit nicely in the DTD parking lot north of DTD (is that called Stitch?) where the 4th hotel was originally going to go before it's location was moved. IIRC, that hotel was expected to have SW:GE access when it was in that location.

 

[mickEblu]

I could have been into a beautifully themed Star Wars hotel. Maybe have it themed to Naboo or something. I’d like to see some beautiful architecture and the ability to see the Sun and go outside. There could be some light roleplaying for those that want it and a beautiful dining room/ dinner show. Basically a Deluxe Hotel themed to Star Wars. I wish I could have seen old school Disneys take on a Star Wars themed hotel and land. Where it wasn’t about hyper real ultra immersion build your own story and more about atmosphere and fun.

 

[celluloid]

The taxes would be insane, if people want it that badly, they were just fly over where there was plenty of land to put that kind of thing in.


Marvel boutique hotel though to maybe though to spread the love...

 

[Practical Pig]

If the one in FL does well, they will certainly do something similar in CA. Maybe Marvel instead of SW? But, we are probably at least a year or 2 away from seeing if the one in FL is a success.

Yeah, if the role-playing hotel model is a hit, they'll milk it to death, and there are other IPs to draw on with Marvel being a prime choice. My own feeling at this early point is that the Florida Starcruiser will satisfy demand for a Stars Wars experience. Time will tell.

 

[ParkPeeker]

Yes, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Tatooine is always the first planet that comes to mind when I think of Star Wars, for whatever reason.

Personally, I’d rather be somewhere that looked like an actual Star Wars planet than not, if possible (I know it’s impossible for other planets). If I can look outside my window and the landscape actually looks like Tatooine, in this case, I would pick that option over somewhere with screens. But I understand the appeal of screens as well. I think they can be useful.

I stated this earlier, but Starcruiser isn’t for me and my personal tastes. For those that are really interested in this and could see themselves having a great time, I say go for it and enjoy it as much as you can.

That’s fair, I personally like that they’re chasing this idea of immersive real life video game.

But I agree that screens are not as great as real windows. The way screens are right now are especially bad at emulating morning light into a closed space. But even in space, where there’s a big ole planet in front of you, the bright reflection should still light up the inside of the room. I posted this below years ago on this site, disney really needs to be working on technologies like this. If there’s a huge asteroid explosion, I want the light from the explosion to look real, to light up the inside of a room realistically.

This is more on the ride side of things but I posted this a while ago in another thread. I want them developing rides that are more ingenious and impressive. I came across a youtube video that was exactly what I was talking about when I made that smugglers run post

I know adding simulator stuff to that sky tech makes things way more complicated, but I want them to really invest in cutting edge technology and actually create stuff that's never been seen before. That video is from 4 years ago. Nothing at Disney really impresses me.

The artificial skylight has me way more impressed than smugglers run. Where is that creative innovative excitement in the disney parks? I need it. The guy in the video says 'it's pure magic.' That's what I want