TalkToEthan
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But "immersive" and "on steroids" are not Disney jargon. Those two have very general applications outside of Disney
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Fun With Parks Fan Jargon!
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The Colonel
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The Bubble
Jrb1979
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That burst a long time ago
The Colonel
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perks
The Colonel
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Villas
MickeyLuv'r
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All Star Sports hotel preceded it.
Those words certainly aren't exclusive to Disney parks jargon, but they've been used very frequently around here. "Immersive" has long been associated with theme park lands, but lands like WWHP, SWGE, and Pandora were "immersion on steroids."
Also, I hate the word "steroids."
MickeyLuv'r
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I daresay...the thread title is a bit off-putting, and doesn't perhaps suggest the light-heartedness that you later clarified that you intended. Just the thread title made me think this was a rant against not using jargon, which makes me think a bit in the direction of defending some use of jargon.
In some cases, jargon like e-ride, is a nod to the past. In many cases, we use jargon as simple short-hand. It is easier to type an acronym than it is to time every name in full, like WDW. Disney has a habit of giving attractions obnoxiously long names for no particular reason.
Where I feel some jargon gets over used is when people use it to indicate a kind of insider pretentiousness. A prime example of this is people abbreviating the name of the Disney hotel club level lounge names. All the WDW deluxe hotels have club lounges; some have two, and WDW has given each lounge a somewhat pretentious sounding name, but mostly the only way anyone would know these names is if they have actually stayed there and read the signs. There's also lounge in Gran Destino. Often forum users not only use the names, but go so far as to abbreviate them, ugh.
Gran Destino: Chronos
Contemporary: Atrium (no sign, but on the 12th floor)
Contemporary: Tower level (confusing name, tiny, on the 14th floor.)
AKL: Kilimanjaro
BC: Stone Harbor
Boardwalk: Innkeeper's Club
GF: Royal Palm Club (main building)
GF: Sugarloaf (in Sugarloaf building, I think the only club level that is still closed? or it was, I'm not sure.)
YS: Regatta
Poly: King Kamehameha
WL: Old Faithful
On top of that, the 3 deluxe hotels at Universal also have club levels, including Royal Pacific.
The other category of names/abbreviations I dislike are the names of the hard ticket parties, like the winter holiday themed one at MK: Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party, and elements of the event...Minnie's Wonderful Christmastime Fireworks Show. What a mouthful! Both the full name and the abbreviations are bad.
On a curious aside, in-person, it is often easier to use the term Fast Pass, than it would be to say the current name of a FP. Typing ILL is okay, but verbally, FP is easier. though we all know they are no longer called FP.
Weather_Lady
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All-Star Sports may have skirted the issue a bit with the hyphen, but yes, who doesn't want to spend a night enjoying the charms of A-SS?
The Colonel
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I always laugh when I hear Disney "Dining". It just sounds pretentious considering the swill they are usually speaking of.
CaptainAmerica
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I rope drop things in real life.
Like... I need to send a package before I head to the airport, so I'm going to rope drop the UPS Store.
People who say "ADR" out loud drive me insane. Typing it is one thing, but just say "reservation."
"I'm going to make a reservation for Boma," not "I'm going to make an ADR for Boma."
Rezzie is also acceptable.
Jrb1979
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I know it doesn't come up here a lot and I have used it. The term is GP friendly. It seems now more then ever all parks, Disney included, are all about GP friendly for everything. At one time parks pushed boundaries for biggest and best attraction. Now it's all about making something for the GP.
MickeyLuv'r
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The only thing is, it isn't a reservation. At the time Disney went to ADR's, many dining establishments still offered real dining reservations. Prior to the switch, DISNEY still offered actual dining reservations.
With a true dining reservation, a table is set aside for you at the specified time. With a true reservation, you are seated on time.
Well, unless you happen to be late. If you arrive late, the restaurant actually holds an empty table for you. Disney USED to do that. You know, back when they actually cared about customer service. It was understood that you, the guest, made an honest effort to arrive on time, but were only delayed if WDW had some type of transportation woe or something. WDW wanted guests to feel like royalty, imagine that!
I know, crazy now to think of the social contract that used to exist twenty years ago!
Still, I refuse to call WDW's, we'll-seat-you-whenever-we-feel-like-it a 'reservation,' because we usually have to wait WELL past our assigned time to be seated, even though we busted our hump to arrive at/ahead of the agreed upon time our seating-was-supposed-to-happen. Way too many times WDW has failed miserably and seated more than a FULL HOUR past our assigned time. It is miserable at WDW, because it completely ruins the night.
It really annoys me if I spend money for expedited transportation to arrive on time, and then WDW doesn't care about holding up their end of the contract. forget about fireworks, FP, getting back to the park before it closes, getting to bed at a reasonable hour, extra hours, paid after hour events...
CaptainAmerica
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What does the R stand for in ADR?
You're not avoiding the implications of "reservation" by saying ADR.
And holding tables for someone who is late might be good customer service to that guest, but it's miserably crappy service to every other guest who showed up for their reservation on time.
MickeyLuv'r
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Point taken.
That's why it is an, "Ay Dee Arrrrgh!" (Said in your best "Our Flag Means Death" style of comedic pirate voice.)
The letters are no longer an acronym. They are just 3 letters. Sure, you make them in advance, but otherwise it isn't really dining, nor is it a reservation.
We have to call them something though.
TalkToEthan
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I agree with you on missing the royalty treatment and the Disney name is sorely tarnished with close to pathetic treatment of guest with the policy changes the last 5 years.
But holding a table, reserved or not, while others are waiting ain’t right.
Like an attraction there should be no willful downtime. Waste is near the top of doing it the wrong way.
While others wait purposely keeping empty seats is unacceptable be that seat is at California Grill or on Guardians Rewind.
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MickeyLuv'r
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Well #1, back then, Disney had ample restaurant capacity to meet demand. Generally, guests did not wait for tables. When you arrived, you were seated. the demand for table service was MUCH lower.
We're not talking Guardians Rewind level demand; we're talking Hall of Presidents level demand to up about Muppets-level demand.
Back before 2005 or so, Disney didn't really push the advance part. It was a crazy era, where if people wanted to eat at a table service they just called WDW the day they wanted to dine, or maybe just walked right up to the podium and they were seated at a table. About the only exceptions were Cindy's Castle and Le Cellier. Some popular places got busy from 12-1pm. The way to dine at Liberty Tree was to stop by in the morning to request a lunch/dinner table. When it first became a character meal, it wasn't really even advertised. People ate there for the turkey feast offered.
As late as 2005, with a group of 9 people over EASTER week, I only made dining reservations by calling a few hours before we wanted to eat. the CM offered a few suggestions, and we picked one. I distinctly recall calling while riding the bus, and my family thought even THAT was unnecessary. (Because prior to 2005, calling ahead wasn't usually required.)
That was before the Dining Plan was introduced, and incentives like 'Free Dining.' More people ate mostly quick serve for lunch, then probably went off-site to eat dinner. Long ago, the Contemporary had a cafeteria! (It was a bit like the Land's quick serve place.)
TalkToEthan
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Your #57 is high quality and appreciated. You got some good stuff in that one.
But the small part above I don't really agree with. My stance is if any anybody is waiting be it crazy 200 minute for Flight of Passage or just a simple 2 party backlog sitting in the entry at Via Napoli there shouldn't be intentional downtime of service/product.
MickeyLuv'r
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I suppose. It was such a non-issue though.... It was a different era. People weren't crammed in like they are today. 'Backlogs' weren't an issue.
WDW has become such a dog-eat-dog survival of the fastest/fittest place since then that it is hard to remember it wasn't always this way. Diners are now booked one on top of each other. That wasn't the case in the early 2000's. Then, if you actually booked a table, you were not rushed in and out the door with 3 parties waiting behind you. WDW allowed plenty of time for parties to actually enjoy leisurely meals!
LittleBuford
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“All you care to enjoy” instead of “all you can eat”.