Fun With Parks Fan Jargon!

Phonedave

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I’m pretty sure all jargon began as normal words. When adopted by fans, they often take on specific or shorthand meanings.

Of course the idea of sight lines didn’t originate with Disney, but Disney Imagineers talk about it (or, at least they used to) so much that many of us fans came to see we’ll-planned sight lines as vital to good theme park design.

Queue is indeed a “normal” word, but in pros fandom, it’s used to refer to “the designed space where guests wait and are prepared for a ride.”

In my experience, Americans typically use the word “lines” when waiting in “queues” outside theme parks. As in, “I had to wait in line for 30 minutes at the DMV…”

There is lots of jargon that originated within the specified field it is used in

In fact, that is the definition of jargon "Special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand.".

Queue is easy for anybody to understand. Especially for anybody from Europe.

Speil is another one. Anybody with either a Jewish or German background likely knows that one without knowing Disney.

Many people know the term sightlines. They come up exceedingly often at planning board meetings (if you are a homeowner and care about that sort of thing)

Now if I told your that I was rolling out a new product and we would be conducting a FOA you would likely not know what that is unless you have a background in wireline telecommunication. Even if I told you FOA was First Office Application, the average person would have no clue as to what that means (or where it came from), that is jargon.
 
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Ayla

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There is lots of jargon that originated within the specified field it is used in

In fact, that is the definition of jargon "Special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand.".

Queue is easy for anybody to understand. Especially for anybody from Europe.

Speil is another one. Anybody with either a Jewish or German background likely knows that one without knowing Disney.

Many people know the term sightlines. They come up exceedingly often at planning board meetings (if you are a homeowner and care about that sort of thing)

Now if I told your that I was rolling out a new product and we would be conducting a FOA you would likely not know what that is unless you have a background in wireline telecommunication. Even if I told you FOA was First Office Application, the average person would have no clue as to what that means (or where it came from), that is jargon.
Do you mean 'spiel'?
 

Phonedave

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Ok, I wasn't sure if it was just fast fingers or if it was a word I had never heard of before! (I'm one of those dreaded people with an English degree that was discussed in a different thread. 🤪)

Nope, but love my bagels and corned beef!! (12 years of Catholic school)

I'm not Jewish either, but I grew up in an area with a large Jewish population. I'll say something or mention a certain food, and people have no idea what I am talking about sometimes.
 

Goofyernmost

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Nope, but love my bagels and corned beef!! (12 years of Catholic school)

I'm not Jewish either, but I grew up in an area with a large Jewish population. I'll say something or mention a certain food, and people have no idea what I am talking about sometimes.
At what point does one have to be Jewish or live in a Jewish area to like bagels and corned beef. I am from close to the canadian border in Vermont and it is hard to find many Jewish people in the state especially since Bernie Sanders moved to Washington, DC. I love both of those and consume bagels almost daily and corned beef quite often. (9 years in Catholic schools.)
 

Phonedave

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At what point does one have to be Jewish or live in a Jewish area to like bagels and corned beef. I am from close to the canadian border in Vermont and it is hard to find many Jewish people in the state especially since Bernie Sanders moved to Washington, DC. I love both of those and consume bagels almost daily and corned beef quite often. (9 years in Catholic schools.)

It was not about the liking of corned beef and bagels, but more about the use of Yiddish words in daily language, as well as the less "mainstream foods". That is why I pointed out that I lived in an area with a lot of Kosher stores, bakery's, and restaurants (I still think falafel on pizza is wrong though). Bagels and corned beef (and pastrami) are pretty much common across the US, but things such as challah , gefilte fish, kreplach, hamentashen, kugel, etc. are not as commonly known.

As an aside, my family used to own a cabin on the VT / Canadian border in Canada (outside of Coaticook on Lac Wallace) across from Canaan VT. My aunt and uncle have been living in various places in the Northeast Kingdom for 50 years now, from Beecher Falls to Danville and many places in between. My parents moved there about 15 years ago as well. My grandparents used to live in NH, just across the river from St J. I have been travelling to and through that area for over 50 years myself. None of my family has yet to find a place that makes really good bagels. I bring up dozens to freeze when I come up to visit from NJ.
 

Smiley/OCD

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It was not about the liking of corned beef and bagels, but more about the use of Yiddish words in daily language, as well as the less "mainstream foods". That is why I pointed out that I lived in an area with a lot of Kosher stores, bakery's, and restaurants (I still think falafel on pizza is wrong though). Bagels and corned beef (and pastrami) are pretty much common across the US, but things such as challah , gefilte fish, kreplach, hamentashen, kugel, etc. are not as commonly known.

As an aside, my family used to own a cabin on the VT / Canadian border in Canada (outside of Coaticook on Lac Wallace) across from Canaan VT. My aunt and uncle have been living in various places in the Northeast Kingdom for 50 years now, from Beecher Falls to Danville and many places in between. My parents moved there about 15 years ago as well. My grandparents used to live in NH, just across the river from St J. I have been travelling to and through that area for over 50 years myself. None of my family has yet to find a place that makes really good bagels. I bring up dozens to freeze when I come up to visit from NJ.
It’s our polluted water…lol
 

Goofyernmost

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It was not about the liking of corned beef and bagels, but more about the use of Yiddish words in daily language, as well as the less "mainstream foods". That is why I pointed out that I lived in an area with a lot of Kosher stores, bakery's, and restaurants (I still think falafel on pizza is wrong though). Bagels and corned beef (and pastrami) are pretty much common across the US, but things such as challah , gefilte fish, kreplach, hamentashen, kugel, etc. are not as commonly known.

As an aside, my family used to own a cabin on the VT / Canadian border in Canada (outside of Coaticook on Lac Wallace) across from Canaan VT. My aunt and uncle have been living in various places in the Northeast Kingdom for 50 years now, from Beecher Falls to Danville and many places in between. My parents moved there about 15 years ago as well. My grandparents used to live in NH, just across the river from St J. I have been travelling to and through that area for over 50 years myself. None of my family has yet to find a place that makes really good bagels. I bring up dozens to freeze when I come up to visit from NJ.
I didn't say we made them I said we like them. If we want great corned beef (pastrami) it is a short drive to Montreal and bagels and smoked meat sandwiches that are to die for. Made that trip many times myself. I also agree that challah , gefilte fish, kreplach, hamentashen, kugel, etc. are not universally popular, but we were specifically talking about bagels and corned beer not those other traditional Jewish offerings.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Bagels and corned beef (and pastrami) are pretty much common across the US, but things such as challah , gefilte fish, kreplach, hamentashen, kugel, etc. are not as commonly known.
Funny aside, I grew up near a Polish/Lithuanian bakery that sells something called babka bread. The babka I know is something like raisin challah.

It is a very fluffy egg +yeast bread, slightly sweet (but barely sweet, most of the sweet comes from the ample raisins). Much of the year it comes as a very large round loaf, but such that it looks like a giant overflowing muffin. Close to Easter, it is sold in large braid. Slices of either shape are too big to fit in a standard toaster. The bakery version was best, but babka was also sold in the grocery stores.

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When I moved, I could only find a sad kind of challah bread that isn't very good. It is sold as a small braid or a regular sized loaf (fits in a toaster), and it is denser than the challah I knew growing up. It is close to regular white bread, except it has a little egg and little food coloring. (to make it look more golden)

When I did find so-called 'babka,' it was nothing like the babka I know. It is labeled "Jewish Babka." It is a very dense, almost pastry like sweet that resembles a jelly roll. Instead of jelly though it comes in either cinnamon or chocolate flavor. It is very sweet, and dense, as if the yeast failed. I have found a few different brands, but they are all similar. blech!

We have a great Polish market, and they call themselves a deli, but they are really more what I'd call a small grocery store that specializes in Polish deli meats. (not sandwiches) The only bread they ever had was shipped rye bread and poppyseed rolls around Easter. In prior years, when I asked about babka, they looked at me like I was crazy.

Well just this past Christmas, to my great surprise they had a beautiful display of loaves of fresh bread including BIG, FLUFFY, rounds of fresh babka bread!

Well almost....their loaves only came in cheese or cherry cheese flavor. Still, I was very excited! It MADE the holidays this year! (The cheese was the same as a cheese danish.)


Incidentally, I CAN get all of the foods you list above. The other odd outlier though is rye bread. Most grocery stores do not carry it, and I have not found a bakery that sells it. Even the Jewish delis near me only offer it on sandwiches. They sell bagels, but not loaves of rye. Just this past Christmas, the market I mentioned above ALSO had fresh rye! Yipee!

On a WDW related note, I have been to the Boardwalk Deli twice. The pastrami sandwiches on our first visit were excellent, but the pastrami we had on our most recent visit was much greasier. We greatly preferred the leaner version, because the meat, dressing, and cheese together made for a rather greasy sandwich. Pastrami can be variable. It was still good quality pastrami, but next time I'd get it without any dressing or cheese.
 

Smiley/OCD

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That’s good to know about the BW deli…we were there inn December but didn’t stop in. We did have the pastrami at the festival in Epcot…like you said, it was tasty, but VERY greasy and fatty.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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That’s good to know about the BW deli…we were there inn December but didn’t stop in. We did have the pastrami at the festival in Epcot…like you said, it was tasty, but VERY greasy and fatty.
We love the idea of a good deli!

The housemade chips are pretty good. The pickles are robust! I wouldn't say good or bad, but robust! The desserts there looked excellent both visits. I mean they all looked fabulous, and the ones we got were delicious. If nothing else, it is worth stopping in to see them. (I say this as someone who rarely buys any in the MK Confectionary these days.)

On our first visit, we also got one chicken sandwich and that one was great. I would order that again.
 

_caleb

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Original Poster
"Gates" to mean "parks" (as in, "When will they build a 5th gate at WDW?") instead of "entrances to a park."
 

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