Hobnail Boot
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I'd pay for their plane tickets to come storm TDO as well if I thought it would help.
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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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The Duck
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Ya think?i have a sneaky suspicion that WDW is targeting the 12 and under set to its parks
yensidtlaw1969
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Ok, so, while I would personally greenlight probably a million things before a big-buck Frozen attraction, if THIS, the BIGGEST HIT the company has seen in DECADES doesn't justify SIGNIFICANT capital expenditure, WHAT FREAKIN' DOES, DISNEY???
*le sigh*
alissafalco
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I'm all for a Frozen attraction, in MK or HS!!!!! A Frozen attraction taking over Maelstrom is an abomination!!
Matt_Black
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FrankLapidus
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None of this is a surprise, the proposed Matterhorn overlay is just laughable.
I can't say I'm all that upset about Maelstrom, its no less than I would expect from the decision-makers at TDO these days. Did anyone really expect them to understand and respect the premise and purpose of Epcot?
I can't say I'm all that upset about Maelstrom, its no less than I would expect from the decision-makers at TDO these days. Did anyone really expect them to understand and respect the premise and purpose of Epcot?
xdan0920
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Mental imbalance?
Still trolling? Kevidently so....(Enjoying the posts yet?
bhg469
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I would still be upset at the thought of a cruddy frozen overlay of maelstrom. Removing mention of an entire country in world showcase is just ignorance though.. I laugh about how out of touch they are but come on, they need to wake the hell up!
Can't disagree one but.
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
That slippery slope so many were concerned about, seems to be turning into a full on mudslide.
Maybe un-themed napkins/cups/plates, weren't such a big deal in and of themselves.
Maybe turning off rows and rows of popcorn lights on the GF isn't a big deal to many.
Maybe routing guests off stage and off theme at the MK isn't a big deal to folks.
Maybe parking a food truck in the middle of Epcot isn't a big deal.
Maybe some people don't care that there is a Starbucks on Main Street or that there are flying carpets and spitting camels in AdventureLand.
But, now, the WORLD. The real WORLD Showcase, is about to lose a REAL country, in favor of a make believe one.
Brand defenders, please, find a way to justify this........
ps. I am taking @pheneix at his word. He has been a reliable source around here for a long time, couple that with that fact that @WDW1974 also dropped hints on this one, and @Lee isn't saying they are wrong, and we have a pretty good idea that this idea is coming(at the moment, at least).
Maybe un-themed napkins/cups/plates, weren't such a big deal in and of themselves.
Maybe turning off rows and rows of popcorn lights on the GF isn't a big deal to many.
Maybe routing guests off stage and off theme at the MK isn't a big deal to folks.
Maybe parking a food truck in the middle of Epcot isn't a big deal.
Maybe some people don't care that there is a Starbucks on Main Street or that there are flying carpets and spitting camels in AdventureLand.
But, now, the WORLD. The real WORLD Showcase, is about to lose a REAL country, in favor of a make believe one.
Brand defenders, please, find a way to justify this........
ps. I am taking @pheneix at his word. He has been a reliable source around here for a long time, couple that with that fact that @WDW1974 also dropped hints on this one, and @Lee isn't saying they are wrong, and we have a pretty good idea that this idea is coming(at the moment, at least).
TeriofTerror
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Here's the part that really baffles me: according to the article announcing Tom Fitzgerald's new appointment, "Disney is poised to begin a major re-Imagineering of Epcot, looking to restore the original intent of the park in both Future World and World Showcase." Granted, I was a rather young whippersnapper in Epcot's early days, but this is most decidedly not what I remember as the original focus of Epcot. And again I say, "Can we please concentrate on filling the holes instead of fixing what's not broken?"
docandsix
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If true, then this decision ranks among the worst TDO has ever made, testifying to both their low standards and their utter inability to honor the design principles which made the parks great in the first place. No longer visionaries, they have become unimaginative tightwads and money-grubbing opportunists.
My family and I are scheduled to visit WDW this summer. After that, I don't anticipate returning for a very long time. I'm even beginning to think of unloading our DVC points.
Where the $#%@* is John Lasseter in all of this? Evidently, he lacks either the power I had hoped he was given or the vision I believed he commanded.
My family and I are scheduled to visit WDW this summer. After that, I don't anticipate returning for a very long time. I'm even beginning to think of unloading our DVC points.
Where the $#%@* is John Lasseter in all of this? Evidently, he lacks either the power I had hoped he was given or the vision I believed he commanded.
bhg469
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You mean the imagination pavilion that is only 1/3 in use or the wonder of life that is in use once a year... odyssey just sits there looking silly.. apologists, please speak up. I'm really dying to know why this is ok.
Bocabear
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I am just wondering... and while I don't agree with adding Frozen to Norway...If the Russian pavilion had been built, the attraction was to be a sleigh ride through Russian fairy tales...And that sparked no controversy... So if Frozen had been based on an actual Norwegian tale would we feel adding an attraction based on that tale would still be out of place? In general I do not care for standard Disney Princesses invading World Showcase, but if they are integrated in a meaningful way...showcasing culture and heritage, is it still such a bad thing? If in adding Frozen to Maelstrom the ride is lengthened and has a completed storyline....which seamlessly blended with a new film... I don't know... Initially I hated the idea, but the more I think of the possibilities...Maybe it would not be so bad....as long as they use the characters as a window into Norwegian culture...
I know everyone hates the idea of Ratatouille in France, but again, any new attraction in World Showcase that integrates into the theme of the pavilion...and is a window into the culture would not be bad...and truly that film was all about being in the culinary world of Paris...which is appropriate... As long as they do not remove things like Impressions De France to do that... so there is still a full cultural picture of France and it's culture...
I know everyone hates the idea of Ratatouille in France, but again, any new attraction in World Showcase that integrates into the theme of the pavilion...and is a window into the culture would not be bad...and truly that film was all about being in the culinary world of Paris...which is appropriate... As long as they do not remove things like Impressions De France to do that... so there is still a full cultural picture of France and it's culture...
alissafalco
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I just don't understand why they have to replace Norway. Why can't they just make this in MK or HS? Is it really THAT much cheaper to replace Norway??? W T F!!!!
lazyboy97o
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Norway isn't "Disney."
TeriofTerror
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I would love to see a Russia Pavilion, and as the 15th century ice slides were the predecessors of modern day coasters, I've always thought they'd make the basis of a perfect E-ticket attraction. This would be a perfect example of "filling a hole".
morningstar
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I believe the story of Aladdin predates Islam. So it's a story from a land that later became Muslim, and Morocco is different land that also became Muslim. Aladdin in Morocco fits like Hercules would in Germany. Hercules is from Greece. Greece was not then, but is now, a Christian country. Germany is also now a Christian country. So Hercules fits in Germany?
Because Norway is awesome. They don't have fjords quite like that in the other Scandinavian countries.
Nemo14
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I think the biggest objection is that WS is not Fantasyland. Make-believe characters have their place in Magic Kingdom, but WS is about real places and real culture. Children can handle that, and child-like adults can too!
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