Frozen in Tokyo vs Epcot

MotherOfBirds

MotherOfBirds

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JordanNite said:
So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

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http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201504/4526/

Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.

To quote Andysol : The Oriental Land Company is spending $4.2 Billion on those 3 areas- Beauty and the beast, Alice in Wonderland, and The Frozen/Scandinavia area. $4.2 Billion. Let that sink in. The Oritental Land Company is a profit making business too.

Does Iger and Disney no longer have any pride to make anything this spectacular?
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Kman101

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prfctlyximprct said:
The only problem with all this awesomeness is that it's in Tokyo.
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All the more reason to plan a trip to Tokyo ... at least that's my plan (and has been for a while). Like I said, not even a big Frozen fan but OLC continues to give me more reasons to visit, besides, it being, well, Tokyo, which I've wanted to visit anyway.
 
prfctlyximprct

prfctlyximprct

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Kman101 said:
All the more reason to plan a trip to Tokyo ... at least that's my plan (and has been for a while). Like I said, not even a big Frozen fan but OLC continues to give me more reasons to visit, besides, it being, well, Tokyo, which I've wanted to visit anyway.
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I could not justify going to Tokyo just to go to Disney... I love Disney but traveling to Tokyo has never been on my life goals list.
 
Bolt

Bolt

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JordanNite said:
It's not getting a Star Wars land. That would cost money. Star Wars land is just a fan boys dreams for some people.

From the rate at which Disney in Orlando works, they announce the project, waste time for 2-3 years, then spend 4 years building it. Literally if Iger announced tomorrow they are building a Star Wars Land (which they aren't) you would see it open in a decade. That means 10 years without any major new attracion at DHS.

Bob Iger does not spend, it eats into profit.
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I think you missed my sarcasm but glad to see your passion.
 
Progress.City

Progress.City

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JordanNite said:
So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

tds-arendelle.jpg


http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201504/4526/

Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.

To quote Andysol : The Oriental Land Company is spending $4.2 Billion on those 3 areas- Beauty and the beast, Alice in Wonderland, and The Frozen/Scandinavia area. $4.2 Billion. Let that sink in. The Oritental Land Company is a profit making business too.

Does Iger and Disney no longer have any pride to make anything this spectacular?
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Are those three areas part of their New Fantasyland? I'm a bit confused...
 
Progress.City

Progress.City

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To be fair, he may go out with a bang. Avatar will be spectacular. We do know a plus billion dollar expansion is in the works for DHS (not including Star Wars). There may also be some departing surprise announcements for EPCOT. So, while I'm as frustrated as everyone else is about the lack of anything new over the past 10 years besides NFL, Disney Springs, Avatar, and NextGen, there are signs that he will make up for all of that with big project announcements before he says goodbye.
 
DisneyparkFreak

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JordanNite said:
How long is Iger CEO for? When does this horrid mans tenure finish?

He's a movies man, and would rather invest in movie's than the parks. He probably see's the parks as 'oh they're just rollercoasters and naff rides', go make me a movie and get me an oscar - that's where he sees glory. It's his passion, it's where he's doing all his work.
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Take Age of Ultron for example. The budget for this movie is 250 Million. It will gross in theaters alone a billion dollars! and thats just a safe estimate. Thats a 400% return on your investment. Now, add merchandising, DVD sales, royalties, back-end and what ever else they make on it and it will be $2 Billion. and 800% return. Thats why he is more interested in movies. The parks don't come close to that return. Plus you have Episode 7 right around the corner which will bring in as much if not more.

In regards to OLC we have to remember that they pay Disney to make that stuff so its in their best interest to make jaw dropping attractions so that they can sell them and charge OLC a ton of money for them. WDW is company owned therefore they need to nickel and dime everything because they are not selling it.

I'm not bashing Iger, personally I don't know him or know what the strategic objectives he and the board have put into place, I do know he is tasked with making sure stock holders get an honest return on their investment and if I were him I would take the 250 million and make another marvel or star wars movie. Its the path of least resistance and has the greatest opportunity for return. Just my two cents.
 
DisneyparkFreak

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JordanNite said:
Iger likes profits. Not investments. The next CEO after him can deal with the fall in attendance.
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Thats his job as a CEO. Besides he and the board have played around with selling WDW. Its sad that this is happening, but unfortunately its business. I'm not sure we will ever get a CEO that is more concerned with the parks. They are just another revenue stream. I have no idea what the drop in attendance would have to be to justify a 1-2 Billion dollar investment in WDW, but from what I understand they have had record attendance for the past couple of years which means there will be no 1-2 Billion dollar investment. If people are still coming and there are more than last year why change anything. It goes back to that old
adage "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".
 
Mike S

Mike S

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MarkTwain said:
Sown fun facts about the announced offerings:

1. This plot has been earmarked for a Nordic-themed expansion since before the park's opening. Check out this concept art from the original park:

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What do you notice? All of these boats represent lands which were built… Except the arctic-themed ice-breaking boat.

Impressively, it seems Frozen's success didn't force plans for a Nordic-themed land – it simply revived them.

2. Disney actually pushed for a whole land based directly on Frozen, replicating Arendelle directly from the movie. It was the Oriental Land Company that pushed for a more general Scandinavian theme. Chief among their concerns were how they could fit future, non-Frozen attractions, as well as how easily they would be able to sell merchandise not based on Frozen. Both valid concerns.

3. This:



(You tease ;) )

All of these expansions will have attractions and offerings that will leave American Disney fans drooling. Or extremely angry.

Probably both.
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Can I just say how much I love the OLC? Haven't even been to TDR yet.
 
champdisney

champdisney

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JordanNite said:
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Yup, whenever I see Mr. Iger on television, it's always about the profits and where the TWDC stands financially. I admit, he's a bit of a snoozefest as a CEO for the biggest entertainment industry in the world. If Walt could've predicted Iger as Chairman and CEO of his company, he would've made sure he were to get a personality first.

Anyway, I think we can all agree that we're a teeny-tiny bit jealous of how well the OLC manages its parks compared to how Disney treats its American parks (specifically WDW).
 
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wdisney9000

wdisney9000

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twebber55 said:
my mom? nah she s good either way on the ride
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Your a good man. Most people cant take a joke.

I suppose it would have been better to say that all of the people who had the "lets wait and see" attitude were perhaps thinking that the Norway pavilion was going to look something like this when construction is finished. Obviously not in terms of size, just detail.

Smart move as well on behalf of the OLC for going with a Scandanavia land that incorporates Frozen within it rather than playing geographical make believe. Seems like a good balance was struck whereas in Norway pavilion its 90% Frozen and 10% Norway by means of architecture sprinkled with a bit of cuisine.
 

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