Frozen in Tokyo vs Epcot

JordanNite

JordanNite

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So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

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Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.

To quote Andysol : The Oriental Land Company is spending $4.2 Billion on those 3 areas- Beauty and the beast, Alice in Wonderland, and The Frozen/Scandinavia area. $4.2 Billion. Let that sink in. The Oritental Land Company is a profit making business too.

Does Iger and Disney no longer have any pride to make anything this spectacular?
 
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Admiral01

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DisneySea will pull this off. It will be Scandanavian themed, with a Frozen presence (instead of the other way around). That corner of the park will be for this addition. I'm no Frozen fan. I hate what is happening to Norway and Maelstrom (and I hate Nemo in the Seas, among other things).

This, however, will be a great addition to Tokyo Disneyland. DisneySea is a fantastic theme park. It looks like this will be a good addition.
 
JordanNite

JordanNite

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djkidkaz said:
A whole land dedicated to one franchise? Unless it's Star Wars or Cars Land, no thanks. No more princess stuff!
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Lol, at giving a thumbs up to Car Lands, but then turning up your nose at Frozen - that literally makes no sense in any galaxy.

The franchise isn't the question - be it Harry Potter, Frozen - it's the sheer ambition of the Oriental Lands Company to build something on this grande scale.
 
Bolt

Bolt

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JordanNite said:
So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

tds-arendelle.jpg


http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201504/4526/

Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.
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Nice change of pace to see you starting a thread that doesn't start with DHS IS NEVER GETTING STAR WARS!!!
 
MarkTwain

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Sown fun facts about the announced offerings:

1. This plot has been earmarked for a Nordic-themed expansion since before the park's opening. Check out this concept art from the original park:

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What do you notice? All of these boats represent lands which were built… Except the arctic-themed ice-breaking boat.

Impressively, it seems Frozen's success didn't force plans for a Nordic-themed land – it simply revived them.

2. Disney actually pushed for a whole land based directly on Frozen, replicating Arendelle directly from the movie. It was the Oriental Land Company that pushed for a more general Scandinavian theme. Chief among their concerns were how they could fit future, non-Frozen attractions, as well as how easily they would be able to sell merchandise not based on Frozen. Both valid concerns.

3. This:

Belowthesurface said:
Just wait until you hear the additional details about the Alice and BaTB area. You will really hate WDW then...
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(You tease ;) )

All of these expansions will have attractions and offerings that will leave American Disney fans drooling. Or extremely angry.

Probably both.
 
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twebber55

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JordanNite said:
So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

tds-arendelle.jpg


http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201504/4526/

Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.
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great points
but it says end of fiscal 2017
so summer of 2018 which is three years
which is what other projects take from beginning to end of construction
 
JordanNite

JordanNite

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How long is Iger CEO for? When does this horrid mans tenure finish?

He's a movies man, and would rather invest in movie's than the parks. He probably see's the parks as 'oh they're just rollercoasters and naff rides', go make me a movie and get me an oscar - that's where he sees glory. It's his passion, it's where he's doing all his work.
 
BrianLo

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JordanNite said:
So this is what the Oriental Land Company (they license from Disney) are doing with the Frozen attraction over in Tokyo -

tds-arendelle.jpg


http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201504/4526/

Meanwhile in Orlando we get a cheap redo of the Maelstrom attraction. Look at time scale of the project too - ready and built in two years, and they're doing a Fantasyland expansion in that same time scale too.

But hey ho, let's rejoice with Iger and his profit loving leeches - a CEO who closes down attractions, and adds nothing. A disgrace to Disney parks, a man who in ten years from now we will look back and see the damage he has done to the parks with his lack of investment in anything.

To quote Andysol : The Oriental Land Company is spending $4.2 Billion on those 3 areas- Beauty and the beast, Alice in Wonderland, and The Frozen/Scandinavia area. $4.2 Billion. Let that sink in. The Oritental Land Company is a profit making business too.

Does Iger and Disney no longer have any pride to make anything this spectacular?
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The 4.2 billion is NOT all for these expansions, that's a portion of their ten year budget (including future unannounced projects). They will be spending serious cash on this, but if that's all 4.2 billion buys you from Imagineering now a days, OLC is really getting ripped off.

Secondly, there is definitely a miss-print on their one slide, in the supplementary material it says Introduction after fiscal year 2018 (which is anytime after March 30, 2018)
 
JordanNite

JordanNite

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Bolt said:
Nice change of pace to see you starting a thread that doesn't start with DHS IS NEVER GETTING STAR WARS!!!
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It's not getting a Star Wars land. That would cost money. Star Wars land is just a fan boys dreams for some people.

From the rate at which Disney in Orlando works, they announce the project, waste time for 2-3 years, then spend 4 years building it. Literally if Iger announced tomorrow they are building a Star Wars Land (which they aren't) you would see it open in a decade. That means 10 years without any major new attracion at DHS.

Bob Iger does not spend, it eats into profit.
 
bethymouse

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It could be a wonderful addition to DHS, and if they do it right, it could rival Harry Potter! With all of the Frozen activities and "attractions" at DHS now, it would be a good idea for DHS to have this wonnderful land. But, what kind of rides would there be? A dark ride? Boat ride? Any chance for a nice roller coaster? Oh well...;)
 
JordanNite

JordanNite

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BrianLo said:
The 4.2 billion is NOT all for these expansions, that's a portion of their ten year budget (including future unannounced projects). They will be spending serious cash on this, but if that's all 4.2 billion buys you from Imagineering now a days, OLC is really getting ripped off.

Secondly, there is definitely a miss-print on their one slide, in the supplementary material it says Introduction after fiscal year 2018 (which is anytime after March 30, 2018)
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Even if you look into the finer details and say they aren't spending the whole 4.2 billion on these projects, it's still a massive project they are undertaking. Where as over in Orlando, they are just doing a lick of paint rebrand to Maelstrom.
 
JordanNite

JordanNite

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bethymouse said:
It could be a wonderful addition to DHS, and if they do it right, it could rival Harry Potter! With all of the Frozen activities and "attractions" at DHS now, it would be a good idea for DHS to have this wonnderful land. But, what kind of rides would there be? A dark ride? Boat ride? Any chance for a nice roller coaster? Oh well...;)
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Iger likes profits. Not investments. The next CEO after him can deal with the fall in attendance.

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