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News from the New York Times today: "Is a Disney Theme Park Vacation Still Worth the Price?"
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DHSfanatic
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That's too bad. But thanks for trying.
Bocabear
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We were saying a couple years ago that Disney was starting to tip the bucket...by constant price increases and complexity of planning... they were beginning to damage their reputation for being the Happiest Place On Earth... And in these cases it is always harder to win back over your reputation... In reading the comments on the article, it is clear that they have a problem. We are long term WDW fans and DVC owners....and I have to say, the last few years have certainly tarnished our love for the parks... It has all become too difficult to enjoy....and that is not even discussing the prices. I am hoping they are paying attention to the comments... These are not internet trolls but their customers.... It doesn't look good.
Thank you for both of those!
At least we know Disney continues to have its collective head in... the sand.
Dear Prudence
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Yeah, I was just gonna say, I'd love to Comment on the article itself , but I can't because of the Pay Wall
Check out Len's gift link (just don't do it in Firefox with NoScript blocking things).Yeah, I was just gonna say, I'd love to Comment on the article itself , but I can't because of the Pay Wall
Brian
Well-Known Member
CNN is now covering a similar topic:
Disney has a price problem. It has ambitious plans to fix that
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
Expand that to the last 7 years of the money machine going whirrrr AND factor in corporate greed (quarterly reports are record breaking in many sectors) and we got record inflation. Prices are not coming down but at least the rate of increase is slowing and wages were a driver since they increased along with the inflation. Not as much but wages sustain even when inflation falls so the pain lessens.
The Fed caused it and the Fed is controlling it though it is seeming to land this thing without another major disruption
Animaniac93-98
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If Disney has a pricing problem now, I'm not sure opening new rides 3-5 years from now will help, given how much higher tickets, food and hotel prices will be by then.
I think the Orlando theme park market has become oversaturated. Between Disney, Universal and Sea World, that's 9 theme parks and 4 water parks (more if you count BGT). No one has the time, money or interest to see them all in one trip.
People have already adjusted their trips to account for higher prices like staying off site, eat fewer table service meals, skipping parks etc. The current deals Disney is offering just aren't cutting it and the current consumer trend is to move away from the all in Disney trip where you stay on site, get the dining plan and visit all four parks.
What they announced at D23 feels more like sustaining interest and accommodating existing crowds. It still doesn't solve the problem they created because they believed a few years ago that there was an unlimited supply of customers willing to pay whatever to visit WDW.
I think the Orlando theme park market has become oversaturated. Between Disney, Universal and Sea World, that's 9 theme parks and 4 water parks (more if you count BGT). No one has the time, money or interest to see them all in one trip.
People have already adjusted their trips to account for higher prices like staying off site, eat fewer table service meals, skipping parks etc. The current deals Disney is offering just aren't cutting it and the current consumer trend is to move away from the all in Disney trip where you stay on site, get the dining plan and visit all four parks.
What they announced at D23 feels more like sustaining interest and accommodating existing crowds. It still doesn't solve the problem they created because they believed a few years ago that there was an unlimited supply of customers willing to pay whatever to visit WDW.
MarvelCharacterNerd
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I just read that Goofy's Kitchen prices at the DL Hotel are going up by $10, making it $75 for a meal there?
I nearly choked on my churro. (Just kidding; I'm not a churro fan.)
Guess I'm never having their PB 'n J Pizza again.
But seriously, $75?!?! I get it that I'm not rich, but those meals used to be for the middle class, too.
I nearly choked on my churro. (Just kidding; I'm not a churro fan.)
Guess I'm never having their PB 'n J Pizza again.
But seriously, $75?!?! I get it that I'm not rich, but those meals used to be for the middle class, too.
SamusAranX
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Heading to Peru next month and 75 dollars will cover at least 4 meals and the food will be better then much of Disneys current offering at table service , guaranteedI just read that Goofy's Kitchen prices at the DL Hotel are going up by $10, making it $75 for a meal there?
I nearly choked on my churro. (Just kidding; I'm not a churro fan.)
Guess I'm never having their PB 'n J Pizza again.
But seriously, $75?!?! I get it that I'm not rich, but those meals used to be for the middle class, too.
MarvelCharacterNerd
Well-Known Member
In So Cal, it'd buy 4 meals at McDonald's. lol
But if I'm spending $75 on one meal (and I'm not), it'd better involve a higher caliber of food than warmed over mac n' cheese pizza. And I love mac 'n cheese pizza.
SamusAranX
Well-Known Member
I agree. If I’m getting Olive Garden food better be charging me Olive Garden pricesIn So Cal, it'd buy 4 meals at McDonald's. lol
But if I'm spending $75 on one meal (and I'm not), it'd better involve a higher caliber of food than warmed over mac n' cheese pizza. And I love mac 'n cheese pizza.
TalkingHead
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/20/business/disney-vacation-debt.html
Did this article about going into debt to finance a WDW vacation make the rounds yesterday?
Did this article about going into debt to finance a WDW vacation make the rounds yesterday?
denyuntilcaught
Well-Known Member
I feel like Disney, with all the brilliant minds that exist within - and I don't mean that sarcastically - really doesn't understand the risks it's facing regarding its perception and value proposition.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Those parks were designed for and sustained by the middle class.I just read that Goofy's Kitchen prices at the DL Hotel are going up by $10, making it $75 for a meal there?
I nearly choked on my churro. (Just kidding; I'm not a churro fan.)
Guess I'm never having their PB 'n J Pizza again.
But seriously, $75?!?! I get it that I'm not rich, but those meals used to be for the middle class, too.
Which is Disneys big problem
They won’t be able to talk their way around
John park hopper
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The middle class is shrinking
"The share of Americans who are in the middle class is smaller than it used to be. In 1971, 61% of Americans lived in middle-class households. By 2023, the share had fallen to 51%, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of government data. As a result, Americans are more apart than before financially.May 31, 2024"
"The share of Americans who are in the middle class is smaller than it used to be. In 1971, 61% of Americans lived in middle-class households. By 2023, the share had fallen to 51%, according to a new Pew Research Center analysis of government data. As a result, Americans are more apart than before financially.May 31, 2024"
John park hopper
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Disney wake up your bread and butter middle class is shrinking as you continue to inflate prices
Hawkeye_2018
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It's a very expensive trip for the average middle class family. We have been very frugal the last couple times going. Staying offsite, bringing in snacks. Only eating at QS places. Not wasting money on photo pass or souvenirs we really don't need.