FP+ installed at HM and PP

Tinkerbella16

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Will let you all know how it works after I test it on Sunday! I chose my arrival day since I'll be spending the whole day there. I don't see how this will be something I'll do in the future, but it doesn't hurt when they are testing. I actually like having 4 fast passes right now before I even go. Is this something they plan of charging guests for?
 

Rasvar

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Can't wait to hear more about this...and...hopefully they will have the kinks worked out by the time we arrive in December
I'd be shocked if they ran Fastpass + at all during December(Well, maybe first two weeks). My guess is February/March time frame without knowing how well the test went operationally. January at the earliest.
 

Dad 2 M & M

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I'd be shocked if they ran Fastpass + at all during December(Well, maybe first two weeks). My guess is February/March time frame without knowing how well the test went operationally. January at the earliest.
You have a point there...we will be there the week before Christmas (departing Christmas Eve), so it probably wouldn't be a good idea during that high volume.
 

Goofyernmost

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Am I reading this correctly for HM? Before we had the option of bypassing the "new" interactive stuff. Does this mean that without a Fastpass + we can no longer bypass it?

SSE needs Fastpass like I need to gain 100 more pounds. o_O
 

draybook

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Original Poster
That is correct Goofy, you can no longer bypass it without FP+. The only exception was during the MNSSHP. This testing created very unnecessary long lines for the HM this week. Instead of 5-10 minutes it was up to 20-25. Not exactly Spring Break times, but way longer than it should be in September.
 

dopeylover

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I don't know a whole lot about this FP+ either, but does this consist of you being able to reserve ride times before you arrive? Did I read that somewhere?

IMHO, it's pretty silly for HM to have a FP. I have been there during busy times, and I have never waited more than 10/15 mins. tops. Maybe during Easter, I guess.
 

EOD K9

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I'll be there in two weeks....guess I need to wait and see. We all need to wait and see actually. Since this is still in testing phase. The way things are running...I don't know if even TDO knows how this will work.
 

mousefan1972

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That is correct Goofy, you can no longer bypass it without FP+. The only exception was during the MNSSHP. This testing created very unnecessary long lines for the HM this week. Instead of 5-10 minutes it was up to 20-25. Not exactly Spring Break times, but way longer than it should be in September.

Actually, that was the case on Tuesday but by Wednesday it was changed. You could bypass the cemetary without a fastpass. We used the fastpass + there on Wednesday noticed right away that they added a path to bypass the cemetary after going through the standby side of the queue (before the cemetary entrance) We chatted with one of the HM hostessess while waiting and she said they were still tweaking the queue and that it could change back. So perhaps it was only like that for Wednesday. I'm not sure because we went home that night.
 

Runmyhorse

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Is it Just me,but Disney is making this more like a job (which we all go to Disney to get away from ). Who wants to sit around and plan ahead. I mean HM hardly has a wait time when we go, but with the FPplus there is a longer wait then what has to be. It's just crazy. I mean I will wait and see like everyone else, but as of now I don't like it. I really hate to say it, but if it becomes to much of a hassle and stress we will bypass Disney and spend our family vacation else where. I know they wont miss my money with the money they are bringing in, but I'm not putting out all this money to be miserable. :(. I can go to Universal and have just as much fun.
 

J03Y

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what exactly is FP+? can someone explain to me?

cause i know about the whole you can reserve the FP ahead of time, is that what it is or what?
 

Tip Top Club

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I'm very open to the idea of FP+, I just wish there was some sort of information in regards to an official role out date and who will be able to get them. I leave in 41 days so I kind of hope that nothing happens between now and then.

Nothing will happen in that time frame. The last day of the test is tomorrow (Well today, as it's after midnight, 9/24) and then everything will be back to normal until at least next year.

That goes for the Haunted Mansion queue as well, after the end of the test it will go back like it was until there is either another test, or the official roll out. As far as the wait times there go, that was more due to the park having several rainy days this week (Including the opening night of Horror Nights) and an extreme crown re-distribution because of it. I would expect wait times to return to normal this week.

Just because you can pre-schedule a few rides doesn't meant you have to pre-schedule everything. Even though the system is really not that complicated, it is being treated as such, so if you guys can't figure it out, why would you expect the average guest visiting from Chicago, Rio, Houston, or London to figure it out and utilize it? It's not like every single guest who walks through the gates will have Splash Mountain fastpasses at the same time. For a ride like Splash the line might get a bit longer in the middle on the day when it's swamped anyway because people want to ride it, but I'm sure it will still be dead at night when no one wants to get wet. (Even though you don't really get wet anymore).

And keep in mind that you can change your reservations all you want, so if you go to the park and realize that it's empty, you can cancel that Mansion reservation and change it into a Space Mountain Reservation all the way up until your scheduled time (which you can also check/change at any time on your smart phone or at five different kiosks throughout the park). And, with this test, so presumably in the final product as well, you can also book parade and fireworks viewings so you don't have to arrive an hour and a half early to get a spot for the electrical parade (or God willing Spectromagic by the time this rolls out, finger's crossed) in the hub.

There are still a lot of details we don't know, we don't know if there will be a charge, how it will roll out, what the benefits are for Annual Passholders, Cast Members, or DVC members, so with things like that we have to keep our ears to the ground, but other than that it really all seems great to me.
 

ExtinctJenn

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Am I reading this correctly for HM? Before we had the option of bypassing the "new" interactive stuff. Does this mean that without a Fastpass + we can no longer bypass it?

SSE needs Fastpass like I need to gain 100 more pounds. o_O
That is correct Goofy, you can no longer bypass it without FP+. The only exception was during the MNSSHP. This testing created very unnecessary long lines for the HM this week. Instead of 5-10 minutes it was up to 20-25. Not exactly Spring Break times, but way longer than it should be in September.
Instinct tells me what they planned for this when they were building the 2nd queue. Having two standby queues always seemed an odd decision to me and I think now it makes a bit more sense.
 

lazyboy97o

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Instinct tells me what they planned for this when they were building the 2nd queue. Having two standby queues always seemed an odd decision to me and I think now it makes a bit more sense.
You're not alone. Many who were told "Just don't use the cemetery queue" were well aware that this choice was not the long term plan.
 

jsf2011

New Member
I'm a fan of FP and FP+ (from what I've seen so far) but I don't get adding it to constant movers. In fact, I think adding it to constant movers usually creates a wait issue that didn't exist before (i.e. Peter Pan). I dunno... the queue at SSE always seems to move pretty quick.
The reason is because in order for it to work they have to. Imagine 30,000 people at Epcot ALL having to use their fastpasses on Soarin, Test Track, and Mission Space. The omnimovers like SSE and Nemo have to be options to eat up a lot of the FP usage, otherwise the other attractions will be even more of a mess than they already are.
 

jsf2011

New Member
Sorry I just realized I did a bad job there of getting my point across...from a customer perspective standpoint also having the FP option on every attraction means that when the person is booking from home you give them the opportunity of guarenteeing themself a FP for their favorite attraction, no matter what it might be. But having the categories gives Disney the opportunity to (at least try) and control it.
 

ttalovebug

Active Member
This is especially horrible for all those who believe that the graveyard queue is not only annoying, but inconsistent with the HM's carefully planned themeing and story development. The argument has been done to death, I know, but some people including myself simply despise the new queue. Before we were always told "If you don't like it, skip it. Everyone wins." Not anymore...

But besides that issue, the entire FP+ idea, creating demand where there is none, making the lines needlessly longer, is completely disgusting to me.
 

RSoxNo1

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The reason is because in order for it to work they have to. Imagine 30,000 people at Epcot ALL having to use their fastpasses on Soarin, Test Track, and Mission Space. The omnimovers like SSE and Nemo have to be options to eat up a lot of the FP usage, otherwise the other attractions will be even more of a mess than they already are.
The problem with this line of thinking (by Disney, not you) is that not all rides are created equal. There is a benefit to an attraction like Nemo where guests enjoy it because they can always walk on to the attraction. By putting Fastpass+ on the attraction they are artificially increasing the wait time for the attraction and they take away the ability for guests to walk on the attraction on a whim in favor of creating false value for a select few that are able to walk on the attraction during a designated time.
 

Grotto123

Active Member
i think fp+ is going to suck for the people waiting in the stand by line cmon its already long enough with the normal fast pass i wouldnt be surprised if we see at hm a new wait time sign to accomadate triple digit wait times then two
 

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