Fountain & Bottled Drink, Popcorn, Pretzel, and Other Snack Item Prices Exponentially

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
Are you some authority on new forum members Lol and I don't care about being popular and if you think your in the majority that is fine but I like being independent and having my own mind not repeating something because everyone else is.

Just pointing out the irony of you complaining about being attacked on a board that has a well deserved reputation of being a haven for people willing to look at Disney and it's decisions critically rather than worship it like a cult. If you don't like it go to DISboards or read a mommy blog.
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
Just a complete misinterpretation of what he and others are saying. Yes, I'm sure he would not expect prices to rise in 41 years, great summation. If you've made it 30 pages and don't see the argument being the speed/amount of the price increases lately versus some imagined outrage that prices go up in this world then you have missed most of the conversation.
Everybody is saying the same thing and I didn't miss anything thank you very much. Disney is making is more costly for certain families which is very much a problem nobody is disputing that for 100th time. Maybe pay attention to what others are saying on the other instead of just responding from emotion.
 

eddie104

Well-Known Member
Just pointing out the irony of you complaining about being attacked on a board that has a well deserved reputation of being a haven for people willing to look at Disney and it's decisions critically rather than worship it like a cult. If you don't like it go to DISboards or read a mommy blog.
Seriously get a grip because nobody is stopping you and other posters from giving your opinions on Disney.
 

MuteSuperstar

Well-Known Member
The LEAST they could do at these QS prices is make a serious effort at a quality upgrade. Get the QS burgers, pizzas, tenders etc up to a level of quality you might see at QS places at Disney Springs and I wouldn't consider these increases quite so heinous. You wanna raise prices on this heat lamp stuff 15-25% overnight, ok.....but come up with better recipes and processes and PROMOTE that improvement. Doing this and keeping the status quo? Just yet another reason a lot of us are disillusioned to the point of no longer going.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
You have been going since 1977 and expect prices to stay the same ? Can people please on this thread get a grip and face reality that Disney has been doing this for a long time and yet didn't stop you from coming all this time. I just don't understand the outrage and posters being blatant bullies because some people don't agree with them.

Please quote where I said I expected prices to stay the same.
 

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
Well lets be honest here. If Disney did that, the price increase would have been 35% to 40%. Disney won't improve anything without passing the cost along to us.

To be fair in this regard if you really look back at the menus about 10 years ago versus now, there is at least some degree of diversity in what each QS location offers, particularly at MK. I believe that was more in an effort to appease people who were upset about not being able to walk into TS locations without a reservation by offering them more than just burgers and fries everywhere else as an alternative.
 

Lensman

Well-Known Member
Can we stop attacking each other for our opinions, however much we disagree? I wouldn't want this thread to get locked. Some interesting thoughts have cropped up in it.

For instance, I like @MuteSuperstar's idea of Disney adding some extra value to go along with some of the price increases. It would throw us a bone that will help the bitter pill of 25% price increases go down more easily. [Yes, I like mashing up my metaphors! I wish I couldn've figured out a way to have that bone be sugared. :)]

I mean, they don't have to have gourmet QS, but some incremental improvements would be fine. And I'd actually like to see a reduction in portion size vs an increase in price.
 

eliza61nyc

Well-Known Member
A dollar increase for one size of soda when the other size went up like 0.40¢ screams arbitrary increase. They were already greatly profiting from the prices of things and nobody here is suddenly acting shocked that they raise prices and they aren't, as you state, "1977 prices". But most of us here have enough common sense to know when pricing is going up because it's just that time of year and when it's a blatant money grab. You're new but you're not going to be very popular here being in the apologist camp. Some of us here actually think Disney is not infallible and should be held accountable for their business decisions.

I think they should be accountable also but I accept that the best way to do that is to Not give them money.
Personally I don't think we're apologist at all in fact I think we are way more realistic than you guys. I fully enjoy my vacations warts and all. I accept that they are a mega corp and right now they're focus is on profits, where as you (general terms) think that Disney is going to return back to some magical time, you (again general terms) keep going and then keep being disappointed.
Now as far as being popular? Lol you mean if one doesn't jump on the "Disney is horrible now" bandwagon they aren't welcome??
So let me ask do you think the mouseworld is going to get better.
 
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Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
I think they should be accountable also but I accept that the best way to do that is to Not give them money.
Personally I don't think we're apologist at all in fact I think we are way more realistic than you guys. I fully enjoy my vacations warts and all. I accept that they are a mega corp where as you (general terms) think that Disney is going to return back to some magical time, you keep going and then keep being disappointed.
Now as far as being popular? Lol you mean if one doesn't jump on the "Disney is horrible now" bandwagon they aren't welcome??
Some of us aren't going.
 

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
So let me ask do you think the mouseworld is going to get better.

Better is relative. I think they're going to continue to try to price out the middle class which to me seems like a poor business plan. Until the general public loses the mentality that WDW not some sort of rite of passage that they're willing to go into massive amounts of debt for or beg family and friends for nothing but Disney gift cards for years just to be able to go, but rather a luxury product, Disney will never be able to completely price out a segment of the population (except for those that are already priced out by default). They'd be better served adding more high-capacity attractions and shows to help spread out crowds rather than artificially lower crowding via pricing. They're doing this in some ways by adding Galaxy's Edge and with Pandora, but these are parks that needed these additions a decade ago. Disney seems to forget the adage you have to spend money to make money and seems to be futilely seeking out some kind of sweet spot where crowds are manageable but they're getting maximum amount of profit per guest with the least amount of expenditure on their part and I think that's an unreachable goal.
 
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noodles

Well-Known Member
I dislike the higher prices.
I hate the parking fee for the resorts.
However... I remember a few short years ago when it seemed that the parks were stagnant, and nothing new was ever going to happen.
Now, construction everywhere. New lands, new restaurants, more new resorts. It's not how I'd have done it, but I can't complain about stagnation anymore. (Maintenance and upkeep, I'm still whining about.)
I'll take the price increases over the stagnant status quo we had a few years ago.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
In another post:
Word from inside the park is that there are signs of some significant slowdown in attendance this month.

Alarm bells are beginning to sound, with various areas being asked to trim back labor and begin cost saving measures.

For those of you who may not be regular readers, this isn't entirely new, and has occurred several times over the last couple of years.

At the same time they are predicting a slow down (demand?) they raise prices. Disney doesn't seem follow the supply and demand model.

They have not operated on supply and demand for at least 20 years...because they really don’t have too...

Which is why every reference to freshman Econ is utterly irrelevant. Disney has earned the right to operate as a unique business...which they do.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I don’t know what’s more disturbing: the outrageous price increases or the people who blindly defend a gigantic corporation.

I love the parks, but I also worked for them for years and recognize it is a product meant to extract money from people. Nobody cares about “the Magic, the Memories, or You.”

Disney can charge over $6 for 10¢ worth of fried dough because people will pay it, but it contributes to the public’s growing dissatisfaction with Parks and Resorts.

At the same time restaurants and lifestyle brands try to cater to customers and make them feel valued, Disney has implemented business practices that bulk-process guests like faceless pocketbooks. This will catch up to the company, and hundreds of thousands of people who feel vaguely used and pickpocketed will outweigh a handful of enthusiastic Lifestylers on message boards.

People often convinced themselves that Disney (and every other company...like the devil cult known as Apple) love them and are their friends...

They are not...they should never be allowed to exploit that kind of ludicrous thought pattern...

So now we have to deal with a disturbing reality.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
They have not operated on supply and demand for at least 20 years...because they really don’t have too...

Which is why every reference to freshman Econ is utterly irrelevant. Disney has earned the right to operate as a unique business...which they do.
Supply and demand doesn't apply to luxury brands. That's why Burberry burned $36.5 million worth of unsold clothes last year.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Supply and demand doesn't apply to luxury brands. That's why Burberry burned $36.5 million worth of unsold clothes last year.

It’s is not a luxury item...it is a middle class vacation spot drunk off a bubble...again.

I can call Caribbean “luxury” and try to charge $350 all I want...but it’s bones are a $44 80’s Moto lodge. With nice paint
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
WDW has 74,000 employees. Lets just assume incorrectly that every single one of them made $11.00 per hour. Lets also assume they each were full time workers at 2,000 per year. Now lets give each of them a $4.00 raise per hour. We will ignore, for now:
- the percentage of workers earning more than $11.00 per hour
- the percentage of workers who are part time

The total cost of the raise to Disney in this scenario is $592 million dollars in 2021 when it actually goes into full effect. This is a lot of money.

Lets also understand Disney is a $175 billion dollar company that had its tax rate go effectively fro 33% this year to 22% under the new corporate tax laws. Lets assume this will add roughly 25% annually to the free cash flow for the company (this is the reported number by analysts). Since 2015 Disney has had annual free cash flows of 7.12 billion, 8.36 billion, 8.72 billion, for '15, '16, and '17, respectively. 2018 is on pace to be a shade over 10 billion.

The new tax rate turns into a free gift of roughly $2.5 billion dollars in cash to Disney annually.

Given the gift of a minimum of $2.5 billion additional profit each year Disney did the absolute right thing and raised its lowest employees pay to $15 per hour. This raise, even judging its near-max cost to the company, takes up about 21% of the new $2.5 billion dollars the government gifted them annually. I applaud Disney for making the decision to use a fraction of this money to better their workers' lives. I'm sure most of us do.

But they didn't do that with the money. They gave a raise 3 years into the future (when the total savings from the tax plan will be $7.5 billion conservatively by that time) and then immediately began raising the prices of almost everything on property then pointing to the employee raises as the reasoning. Other people on these boards are doing the same thing. "Of course they are raising everything, they gave huge raises this year to the dear CMs." Its nonsense. The raises haven't even kicked in but the price hikes sure did. The tax savings are already hitting the bottom line and won't stop.

Lets call a spade a spade and just be honest that the company is being very greedy in a time where the business environment has never been better for them. You can continue to wave your pompoms and that is certainly your right but its just so silly. I don't get why you are so pro-everything that happens at WDW but you don't even go to the parks to support them.

This is correct...because it uses numbers and puts them together and stuff

You guys have been criticizing Disney this whole thread but as soon someone comes in with a dissenting opinion ya'll try to gang up on them and shout them down. Like I said a lot of posters can be hypocrites when attempting to call someone out.

This is incorrect.
 
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