For anybody who is attempting to go to Expedition Everest on April 6th read this.

SpenceMan01

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I'm not complaining. I won't be anywhere near WDW, I'll be in Kansas City for the grand opening of Patriot at Worlds of Fun. I was just injecting some humor into the whole situation.
 

EpcotServo

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freediverdude said:
So how did we find out it was that date then? From people like you! If you don't want people to be disappointed, then don't say what the friggin date is.

OWNED
http://dsc.discovery.com/everesttheexperience/?dcitc=w99-530-ah-0007
Maybe we saw it from places like this? Or maybe you never looked at the old EE page they had up. It said April 7th. (And second of all, the proper term is pwned.)
And again, Enderkari dosen't get what we're saying. You act like WE want to ride it. We don't care if we ride it on the so called "grand opening". We care that the guest is part of a grand opening. I don't care if they do even have a grand opening. Just don't call a press event a "grand opening" when it really isn't. And for those of you saying that there's no other choice, let's run down what I would do. I'm not saying that I can do better, I just would like to say what I believe would work. Press would have the entire area from the bathrooms to the dinoland bridge. guests who would like to view the event, can stand at the viewing area location. (the one with the tubes and the shrine.) Signs would say that that viewing from this area is first come-first come serve, and not everyone would get a great view. But a screen placed further back could enhance guest viewing. Also in select areas of the park, viewing screens would show the event. EE themed decorations would go all around DAK. Signs would be put up saying EE will open at 1. (and also say because of this, we invite you to enjoy viewing the event from the select viewing areas I mentioned.) Also, Camp-Minnie Mickey will be closed for the day. Merch would be located at the Asia huts, and also in the two main stores.
I think that would be a great press/guest event.
 

CaptainMichael

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Expedition Everest is open right now and will be open the day before and the day after. Anyone who plans accordingly can experience it on their trip if they'll be there more than two days.
 

Enderikari

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Jheyman said:
As a point of record you have a bit of an additude that we all owe TWDC our first born because of what they have built for us and I think this is completely rude. We do not owe disney anything, while i am greatful for the parks I also pay a decent amount of money to enjoy them. If they were a free thing for all to marvel in then yes you are correct we would owe them. For someone concerened about the magic your additude on here does not reflect it.

My attitude is all about the magic.. I appreciate the magic of disney, and that is an appreciation born out of satisfaction. I enjoy going to Walt Disney World, and I have never paid them a cent that I didn't feel I got well compensated for. You are right, I do not owe Disney anything, and neither do you, but the converse of that is that they don't owe us anything either. Going to Walt Disney World makes me happy, not because of their rides, not because of their fireworks shows, not even because of their entertainment, but because I make it a point to enjoy myself while I am there, to be satisfied by what Disney has to offer me. It seems to be that some people around here have forgotten that you are supposed to enjoy Walt Disney World for what it is, not what you want it to be.
 

Jheyman

Member
Enderikari said:
My attitude is all about the magic.. I appreciate the magic of disney, and that is an appreciation born out of satisfaction. I enjoy going to Walt Disney World, and I have never paid them a cent that I didn't feel I got well compensated for. You are right, I do not owe Disney anything, and neither do you, but the converse of that is that they don't owe us anything either. Going to Walt Disney World makes me happy, not because of their rides, not because of their fireworks shows, not even because of their entertainment, but because I make it a point to enjoy myself while I am there, to be satisfied by what Disney has to offer me. It seems to be that some people around here have forgotten that you are supposed to enjoy Walt Disney World for what it is, not what you want it to be.

I too enjoy Disney for all it has to offer and for the good times I have every time I visit and do not think the owe me anything either. My point is however just a point of disccusion, not a demand, not a "if TWDC never has a guest grand opening I will never go back" nothing like that. It is simply as I would assume everyone else here would say a point of disccusion. Your assumption is always that we are attacking when we are not. Even the mouse could always improve and all we are doing is saying hey you know what would be nice a guest grand opening, thats all nothing more nothing less. I understand whole heartedly the need for the event, I am just saying though wouldn't it be nice if.... And likewise the disccusion is well how would we do that. I could say wouldn't it be nice if we had AE back and then have a disccusion about how to do it but that doesn't mean I am demanding it back I understand that things have to happen. I just would hope sooner or later you would understand it isn't nessacary to come to the defense of TWDC we are all on these message boards for a reason, the magic, disccusions are just that, lets not make them into arguements. (and ps please lets not turn this into a AE vs SGE talk either)
 

EpcotServo

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Jheyman said:
My point is however just a point of disccusion, not a demand, not a "if TWDC never has a guest grand opening I will never go back" nothing like that.
I understand whole heartedly the need for the event, I am just saying though wouldn't it be nice if.... And likewise the disccusion is well how would we do that.
Very, very, well said post. :sohappy:
 

everymarble

New Member
grapevine says...

the trams and busses will have a modified spiel about everest's downtime for those two days. there will also be pre-entry A-frames stating the closure.
 

crazydaveh

Active Member
Ok people, be happy they're not shutting down the park early this time around!

Last year for the HCOE Media event, they closed MGM at three on Wednesday and EPCOT at three on Thursday for the media events! Yes, they closed the entire parks down for the events! At least this time, people can still be in the park during normal hours.

So many people are mad, remember, it's a fun place. It's a day and a half. It can be worse! Just remember, if you're there, you're at Disney! Your're not at work! Have fun on something else!
 

Enderikari

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Jheyman said:
Even the mouse could always improve and all we are doing is saying hey you know what would be nice a guest grand opening, thats all nothing more nothing less.

But the question remains, who would your "improvements" benefit? Its selfish to say that Disney should do something for you and call it an "improvement." And despite what you may want to believe, my points are up for discussion as well, I understand that I am not always in the right, and most subjects dealing with TWDC are touchy subjects, but it seems to be that Disney Internet message boards are tearing apart the magic of Disney, as so-called and supposed Disney fans get together to say how much they've been wronged. Unfortunately, most of the time, Disney is in the unenviable position of not being able to defend itself or its actions, not that it needs to. A lot of the time, I see some of the statements being said here, and want to do my best at giving people the other side of the story, at least what I would assume to be the other side of the story.

Back to the original point, suffice it to say, Grand Openings not being allowed for the general public are not something that needs to be improved... How many times has Hollywood had a red carpet opening and invited the public? Or what about Disneyland's Grand Opening, July 17th, 1955? Wasn't that supposed to be a media and dignitary-only event? Anyone here want to go tell Walt he was wrong about that, and he should have let every average joe in? Or would you want to be the ones climbing the fence, just so you could try and be a part of something special?
 

1disneydood

Active Member
So the media will have "extra Disney Magic" for the opening with character interaction and all the bells and whistles, which the average joe guest paying thousands for an extra magical experience won't be able to share?? In the nutshell, no candy coat, they put the media in a higher class than the rest of us? Am I close? :(
 

Enderikari

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1disneydood said:
So the media will have "extra Disney Magic" for the opening with character interaction and all the bells and whistles, which the average joe guest paying thousands for an extra magical experience won't be able to share?? In the nutshell, no candy coat, they put the media in a higher class than the rest of us? Am I close? :(

Don't you get it? Disney isn't taking anything away from the people who are going to be there that day. The special things that are going to be there aren't there everyday, and the guests are not paying any more for that day than any other. The media is receiving special treatment because Disney is advertising to the world their multi-million dollar attraction, that is marketing budget. The average joe guest isn't paying thousands extra for that extra magical experience, they are paying the same thing they paid the day before, and the day before, for the magic they should appreciate... If they feel as if they aren't getting the magic they paid for, then no one is holding a gun to their head to buy that magic. They will be informed before they buy their tickets that there will be one attraction out of dozens they won't be able to see. They will be able to make a more informed decision before they buy their tickets...
In other words, no... you are not even close.
 

Scooter

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Ladies and Gentlemen...Welcome to Scooter's Remarkable Grocery store!

We are differant from most grocerey stores in that we only carry the freshest groceries in the World, which is why you had to pay a $60 entrance fee to get in.

Because of our grand opening event, the Bread isle, the Dairy section, and the Fruit and Vegetable Departments will be closed today.

We hope you enjoy shopping at Scooters Remarkable Grocery Store.
Have a Remarkable Day!:sohappy:
 

Jheyman

Member
Enderikari said:
But the question remains, who would your "improvements" benefit? Its selfish to say that Disney should do something for you and call it an "improvement."

On this point I maintain I wont be anywhere near WDW so it isnt for me, all I am saying is it would be a nice idea a nice event if they would allow guest some sort of big to do. I sill maintain the media event is 100 percent needed just why not before and after the park closes or if not maybe have a view area at wide world of sports or something, there are many options but either way thats not the point.

Enderikari said:
And despite what you may want to believe, my points are up for discussion as well

I never said they weren't trust me I will continue to disccus this as long as you like.

Enderikari said:
I understand that I am not always in the right,

I hope that is true becuase I will be honest I don't get that from your posts and I have been a lurker of these boards for a decent amount of time.

Enderikari said:
and most subjects dealing with TWDC are touchy subjects, but it seems to be that Disney Internet message boards are tearing apart the magic of Disney, as so-called and supposed Disney fans get together to say how much they've been wronged.Unfortunately, most of the time, Disney is in the unenviable position of not being able to defend itself or its actions, not that it needs to.

No one is attacking TWDC we are disccusing some ideas. Everyone on here I think appericates the magic more the an ordinary guest and to me disccussing different aspects of this allows us to share in a bit of that magic when we are away from WDW. Its fun, its enjoyable not a crusade agianst the mouse.

Enderikari said:
A lot of the time, I see some of the statements being said here, and want to do my best at giving people the other side of the story, at least what I would assume to be the other side of the story.

I think its important to say more often then that you are assuming many a times I have seen folks get very upset over wha tyou have said becuase you say it as fact and that isnt fair. I have gotten the impression you work with/for the Mouse and if you aren't speaking as a cast member/employee of TWDC then please make that clear.

Enderikari said:
Back to the original point, suffice it to say, Grand Openings not being allowed for the general public are not something that needs to be improved... How many times has Hollywood had a red carpet opening and invited the public? Or what about Disneyland's Grand Opening, July 17th, 1955? Wasn't that supposed to be a media and dignitary-only event? Anyone here want to go tell Walt he was wrong about that, and he should have let every average joe in? Or would you want to be the ones climbing the fence, just so you could try and be a part of something special?

Agian no one is saying that TWDC is wrong all we are saying is wouldn't it be nice if...... thats all nothing more nothing less.....Dreamers built WDW and TWDC we are dreamers here on the boards sharing ideas and thoughts and "Hey did you hear?" Please agian understand no one is demanding and if they are I have to agree with you they have no right and there are pleanty of other things to do that day. Do I personally think TWDC might have been able to do this at another time sure but I understand them not. I also still maintain it would be nice to find a way to allow the guests to be apart of this WDW History, yes.
Edit: Grammar
 

MGMBoy

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crazydaveh said:
It can be worse! Just remember, if you're there, you're at Disney! Your're not at work! Have fun on something else!

What if you DO work there? ;)

BTW, I'm offended that people can't appreciate the park for the attraction that kept it alive all these years. Props to Kilimanjaro! :D
 

CaptainMichael

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MGMBoy said:
What if you DO work there? ;)

BTW, I'm offended that people can't appreciate the park for the attraction that kept it alive all these years. Props to Kilimanjaro! :D
I second that! Props to Kilimanjaro Safaris! Jambo!:sohappy:
 

STGRhost

Member
I sill maintain the media event is 100 percent needed just why not before and after the park closes or if not maybe have a view area at wide world of sports or something,

Well, as someone else already pointed out, EE would be very hard to film in the dark. Plus, DAK is pretty much a "daylight" park anyway, so filming the newest attraction there during the day makes sense.

As far as closing off the whole area, it's got a lot to do with crowd control/safety - easier on CMs and the media people to not have day guests wandering through the area. And setting up veiwing areas (either in the park or somewhere else) would be far more trouble than they'd be worth - press events are pretty boring. I mean, they LOOK cool on tv or in print, which is the point, but the actual day is spent mostly waiting, setting up, waiting, filming, waiting, waiting... Showing that side of the "Grand Opening" wouldn't really help to preserve the Magic, you know?



And the pin thing? I always figured most of the "crazy" pin people (the ones that actually get in line at 7am - no offense, I just don't get up that early unless someone's paying ME!) aren't actually all that interested in whatever the attraction/event is anyway. I mean, I thought the whole idea was that you Got. The. Pin! Not that you've been there/done that?
 

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