Food and Wine dates announced

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
Counting holidays around the world?
Nope. I always go back and forth on that one. It has a lot of features of the festivals, but it doesn't really get advertised as a festival event like the others do. For making the statistics look bad I love to count it. I don't feel it's 100% correct though.
 

ToTBellHop

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Nope. I always go back and forth on that one. It has a lot of features of the festivals, but it doesn't really get advertised as a festival event like the others do. For making the statistics look bad I love to count it. I don't feel it's 100% correct though.
Bad? The festivals are about the only thing Epcot has going for it! It's becoming downright gorgeous in Future World this week.
 

asianway

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Nope. I always go back and forth on that one. It has a lot of features of the festivals, but it doesn't really get advertised as a festival event like the others do. For making the statistics look bad I love to count it. I don't feel it's 100% correct though.

Needs a dozen food booths to put it over the edge
 

Phil12

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I'm looking forward to the Elsa wine slushies and the Frozen Olaf cheese icicles.
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hopemax

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Needs a dozen food booths to put it over the edge

Whoops, posted without actually typing.

Holidays Around the World gets its own passport book with stamps that need collecting! Complete with a list of holiday food items. No, they don't drag out all the booths, they just add them to the existing food service locations with signs indicating they are for Holidays Around the World.
 

djlaosc

Well-Known Member
First time we'll have ever been able to go! Has always started after we've left in the past!

Luckily, it is right at the end of our holiday, and we won't be there at the weekend, so we will get normal Epcot for most of the holiday, and it should give us something new to experience without it potentially negatively affecting too much of the holiday.
 
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Next Big Thing

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So by my math, 169 days out of 366 this year are devoted to either festivals or holiday celebrations at Epcot, coming out to 46% of the year.

Epcot is beyond broken at this point.
 

Lirael

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Putting in character driven rides is bad because "that's not what Epcot is about"...but adding more and more festivals that are completly intune with the park is also bad because it "makes higher ups not care about the deterioration". No matter what, when it comes to epcot, disney cant win.

I wish they'd started the F&W even earlier so I could check it out ;_;
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
Putting in character driven rides is bad because "that's not what Epcot is about".
Rides would be good, but they do not have to be character driven. Events like F&W were much better years ago when it lasted half as long and was 1/3 less crowded and the actual food and wine was half the price it is now. It gets a bad wrap now because the crowds are just insane

My wife and I did F&W for the first time in 2004. It was actually very enjoyable and the prices were not insane. If I recall, a beer was around $4. Now its $7-9. Food samples were $2-3. Now theyre around $5-8. We went to Food and Wine last year and both agreed that we wont plan a trip around it again. We still enjoyed ourselves, but the crowds were crazy and the prices are not worth it, in our opinions of course.
 

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
Putting in character driven rides is bad because "that's not what Epcot is about"...but adding more and more festivals that are completly intune with the park is also bad because it "makes higher ups not care about the deterioration". No matter what, when it comes to epcot, disney cant win.

I wish they'd started the F&W even earlier so I could check it out ;_;
I'll clarify. Putting characters in rides poorly, with no thought towards what Epcot was built to be was bad.
Adding more festivals, which at least ties to World Showcase, but letting the rest of the park fall into disrepair is bad. Epcot is now at the point where it cannot even break in financially without having 41-46% of the year filled with additional food and beverage guest spending. Epcot is a park where most guests pay admission to go into a park for the privilege of paying loads extra for food and drink.

So it's not true that Disney can't do right here, it's that for more than 2 decades, they haven't.
 
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