Florida is Overwhelming Choice of Brazilian Visitors

Runmyhorse

Runmyhorse

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fillerup said:
The thread title is the headline of a 4/5 article that ran in the Miami Herald and was reprinted in today's O'Sentinel. If it's been posted already, I didn't find it with several searches.

First couple of paragraphs:

"South Florida residents are accustomed to hearing Portuguese accents as Brazilian visitors flock to stores and tourist attractions, but they may not be aware of just how popular the Sunshine State is in Brazil.

Mauro Vieira, Brazil’s ambassador to the United States, said Friday that new figures show that of the 1.8 million Brazilians who traveled abroad in 2012, 75 percent came to Florida."

Adding my own math to the above quote - that works out to 1.35M Brazilians in Florida each year. And I'm not adding any editorial comment to this except to say that their contribution to our economy is most welcome.

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Yeah and we run into them every trip.
 
Sped2424

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I really hate how bad this whole I hate brazilian's thing is on here, If we see someone acting up or misbehaving we usually frown upon the group of people and not an entire culture. Do you roll your eyes when you see local teenagers and adults disrespecting everything in the que of an attraction? Of course, but then do we say gosh I hate all (type whatever) race? No,some people are rude and disrespectful but to pin an entire culture is a little messed up in my opinion. If we are going to hate on large groups of people for the acts of a few then where is the I hate the cheerleader thread? I'm a hispanic myself and I know how loud some people can get that can be attributed to culture sure, but there are loud and rude people in any culture and most of the time when I was really ticked at guest behavior at the WDW it wasn't just any race or age it was a wide variety of rude people.
 
danpam1024

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Sped2424 said:
I really hate how bad this whole I hate brazilian's thing is on here, If we see someone acting up or misbehaving we usually frown upon the group of people and not an entire culture. Do you roll your eyes when you see local teenagers and adults disrespecting everything in the que of an attraction? Of course, but then do we say gosh I hate all (type whatever) race? No,some people are rude and disrespectful but to pin an entire culture is a little messed up in my opinion. If we are going to hate on large groups of people for the acts of a few then where is the I hate the cheerleader thread? I'm a hispanic myself and I know how loud some people can get that can be attributed to culture sure, but there are loud and rude people in any culture and most of the time when I was really ticked at guest behavior at the WDW it wasn't just any race or age it was a wide variety of rude people.
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It's not the "culture" it's the "tour groups"- Brazilian, American, Asian- whatever. They are singled out mainly IMO because of the sheer numbers! Frankly, POP Warner is just as bad, if not worse, but we all know how to avoid that mess :) And don't get me started on people in the ECVs-lots of them behave far worse than any tour group I've run into. As for the Brazilians, when my DS was 8, he asked if he could take a picture with a group of about 20 girls because they were so beautiful- and they gladly obliged :)
 
bluejasmine

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You know I of course don't mind the Brazilians! They are helping our economy! I believe everyone should enjoy WDW!
My only issue is how rude they can be.. Not that American aren't.. Its just the huge groups that cut in front of you or take up the whole walk way..
My parents are both immigrants so I am in no way prejudice, I myself have an olive complexion so pls don't think Im being mean...
 
luv

luv

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bluejasmine said:
You know I of course don't mind the Brazilians! They are helping our economy! I believe everyone should enjoy WDW!
My only issue is how rude they can be.. Not that American aren't.. Its just the huge groups that cut in front of you or take up the whole walk way..
My parents are both immigrants so I am in no way prejudice, I myself have an olive complexion so pls don't think Im being mean...
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Good point!

It's easy to assume a few bigots have stirred up a bunch of hatred for Brazilians. And I'm sure a real bigot would seize the opportunity to jump on the Brazilians.

But most people did not say, "Hey, I think we should dump on Brazilians for no reason!" The pushing and shoving their way through the line and the chanting have driven people up the wall. There is also the fact that they don't behave like other larger groups and try not to take up too much space, which makes it difficult to navigate around them.

When I entered the mall, they were nearing their time to leave, so the kids just sat down by the doors...but they sat right in front of them, making it extremely difficult for others to get in or out. You literally had to step over bunches of kids, finding places to put your foot. i thought, "Someone with really poor balance would never get into the mall!". There was someone there who had started telling them to move off to the side, but there were like 100 people, so it was taking a while to get them to move.

They're rude. They're loud. They push people, which is just unacceptable.

We aren't talking about all Brazilians here. We are talking about the Brazilians who come to Florida and our experiences with them.

I think the people who take offense to our gripes have not experienced it.

And I think Disney needs to stop allowing line jumping, like many amusement parks have done.
 
Violet

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It's also possible that there are really are cultural differences between Brazilian culture and American culture, regarding lines, right-of-way, that kind of thing. It doesn't mean that they are deliberately trying to be hurtful. In Brazil, the particular behaviors might not be considered rude. I don't know about Brazil, but there are many countries where the concept of lines don't exist.

And of course, Americans have their own stereotypes when they travel to other countries about being rude as well (as well as being fat and poorly dressed).
 
danpam1024

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Violet said:
It's also possible that there are really are cultural differences between Brazilian culture and American culture, regarding lines, right-of-way, that kind of thing. It doesn't mean that they are deliberately trying to be hurtful. In Brazil, the particular behaviors might not be considered rude. I don't know about Brazil, but there are many countries where the concept of lines don't exist.

And of course, Americans have their own stereotypes when they travel to other countries about being rude as well (as well as being fat and poorly dressed).
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line jumping is rude- we are taught that in kindergarten.
 
BoarderPhreak

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It doesn't matter what your native culture deems "normal behavior." When you're in a foreign country, you're a GUEST and you should be on your "best behavior." You might not be an adult, but try to at least act civil. Clearly NO ONE else around you behaves that way... Shouldn't that be your first clue? A two year old can understand that.

For the record, I don't have a problem with Brazil/Brazilians... I don't care where you're from if you act like an .

Sped2424 said:
...If we are going to hate on large groups of people for the acts of a few then where is the I hate the cheerleader thread?
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Yeah! Down with cheerleaders! Boooooo!
 
Violet

Violet

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danpam1024 said:
line jumping is rude- we are taught that in kindergarten.
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We (meaning Americans I assume) are taught that in kindergarten. :)

Here is an excerpt about queue etiquette in Latin America, specifically Nicaragua in this example...


It is more important in Nicaragua to maintain one's face by being first in line (and never last) than it is to maintain a queue. Don't be too distressed if someone walks right up to the front of the line at a bank, restaurant or store and gets served, while you have been waiting patiently for forty minutes...

People also have a tendency to stand very close in public, and this may feel uncomfortable at first. Resist the urge to back away, most of the time you are not being intentionally crowded.
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Violet

Violet

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BoarderPhreak said:
It doesn't matter what your native culture deems "normal behavior." When you're in a foreign country, you're a GUEST and you should be on your "best behavior." You might not be an adult, but try to at least act civil. Clearly NO ONE else around you behaves that way... Shouldn't that be your first clue? A two year old can understand that.
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Yes, I totally agree. When one travels to another country, you should follow the rules of that country. Perhaps if we traveled abroad, we would find we would never get anything if we stood in a line and waited patiently, and of course, there are a million other etiquette rules that we would have to be aware of as not to offend, and some of them would feel completely foreign. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect international visitors to do the same when they visit the U.S., and specifically WDW, but it doesn't mean that they do.

Now, is it rude to not read up on etiquette before you travel abroad? I would say definitely yes. My point was that the Brazilians who people perceive as being rude at WDW may not actually have the intention of acting rude, but aren't adapting to American etiquette traditions. Same action, but different motives. That was my only point. But of course, I guess it's irrelevant really, because the fact is line-jumping etc is rude here in the U.S. and it will be perceived that way, no matter what the intent.
 
A

All Disney All The Time

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Tour groups have paid to tour no matter where they are traveling to; they are not going to break up into "WDWMagic approved size groups".

I don't mind loud, I don't mind "chanting" but I have nothing but disdain for "line jumpers" no matter who they are.

I have experienced and witnessed plenty of rude behavior at WDW, and it wasn't all due to Brazilian tour groups.
 

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