First DL trip report from a lifelong WDW'er

Mickey_777

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Sorry for the lack of pictures (I have no photobucket or anything)

So we finally did it. Last week my wife and I made it out to DL and it was memorable. This was our first "real" trip to DL. I had been out there once when I was a 8 years old but all I remember was purchasing a rubber ducky type set of the seven dwarfs. Surprisingly enough, I saw the set again at WOD but I didn't get it. My wife on the other hand, had only been to WDW so this was totally new for her.

I really tried to enjoy myself at the 2 parks without comparing to WDW but it's inevitable. In the end though, I feel like I was able to keep comparisons to a minimum and left DL with a great feeling about the "original". But this is a trip report about DL on a WDW site so there will be lots of comparing. Disney is still Disney wherever you go.

Our experience with DL really started on thursday night when we got to our hotel at about 11:15pm (we flew from DC so it was like 2:15am to us) and I said "Babe, let's jog to Disneyland". Even though it was late, we excercise regularly and she felt guilty about our high calorie dinner so she said okay. So we jogged down Harbor until we get to the DL entrance. I was already excited a few block prior since you can see the ToT from far away. Once we walked into DL resort property, I was immediately captivated by the music in the esplandade/middle area between DCA and DL. The first thing I heard was the theme music for Soarin' which is epic in itself. Add the sight of DL railroad station and you have a true Disney "moment". All the time I was thinking "I can't believe what I'm seeing and hearing and I haven't even paid one cent". That made my night. More great Disney music continued to play as we walked thru the empty esplanade and thru DTD...great night and first taste of things to come.

The next day we headed to DL park super excited. After taking the usual photos in front of the railroad, main street and castle, we headed to Indy which only had a 20 min wait. I was more like 35 min and from what I saw that's pretty true at all the DL attractions. At least while we where there, you had to add 10 to 15 min to you wait times. Anyhow, Indy is a fantastic ride. Is it a million times better than Dinosour? Not in my opinion but it is better without a doubt. Mostly due to theming and the Indy AA's (IMO). As for the rest of Adventure land, I like it. Jungle cruise was just as enjoyable as in MK although we had boring skipper both times with the exact same jokes. We didn't get to see the Tiki Room unfortunately because it broke down but the theming was very nice. Most of the theming in AL was great except for the part right across from Indy and the tree house. It kind of sticks out to me.

New Olreans Square is awesome and Pirates was one of my favorites. It's longer and has the whole dark swamp with restaurant (like Mexico in Epcot) plus the extra scene at the end. I don't like it any better than our version in MK just because Jack Sparrow looks kinda' funky at the end. Either his eyes are off or we're just too close and robbed of the illusion. The que is great though and I do wish we had the talking pirate skull just before the first drop. The theming is fantastic thru the whole land I loved the whole tiny streets feeling. Plus I've never been to New Orleans so...but I regret not eating some beignets.

Critter country (to me) is like a small frontier land. The only two things there are Splash and Pooh. Both rides are fun but like most would say, Splash in MK is superior. I personally just like the side by side seating and the larger flume/boat. From the outside they look identical and all of Critter country has a nice theme that just seems like it should be in frontier land (though Pooh probably wouldn't make sense).

I found Frontier land to be perhaps the weakest of all. I can't put my finger on it but I didn't find Big Thunder Mountain to be as enjoyable as MK's version but the town scene is awesome. IMO the theming is better in MK. The walkway behind BTM that leads to fantasyland is a nice quiet and offers some great photo opportunities so that I liked. Also, Rivers of America is more beautiful than LSR boats.

Now for Fantasyland. Everybody talks about how great DL's Fantasyland is and they're right, it's great. I actually like how close the que's and pathways are. Nobody can deny that the theming/architecture in FL is phenomenal. IMO the rides are ALMOSt on par with the theming. Peter Pan really is sooooo much better than ours at MK. Mr Toad is very weak though. Nothing but paper cut-outs...no AA's and no 3D characters or theming inside. A nice outer building is pretty much all it has going for it. I never rode the one at Mk so I don't know if it differs or not. The Pinocchio ride is really nice and makes me wish this ride was at MK. Alice was also really cool especially how when you think it's over, there is still more to the ride. Matterhorn was a let down. Not because it's "boring" as some say but because it's violent. My wife left with like 3 bruises from that ride. There is virtually no padding inside the car and even I hit my knee a couple times. Hopefully the new cars Matterhorn is getting will be a little softer inside but it is a classic. IASW was nicer than it is at MK. Mabye because it was "new" to us but it seemed less boring LOL.

We didn't spend much time in Toontown but it's as nice a land as any and it was obvious that kids love that place. I was surprised how big Mickey's house was...backyard and everything. Cool place with great theming just not our cup of tea.

Tomorrowland for some reason seemed like the hardes to get to. Maybe it's cause of the constant closings and shutting down of rides and walkways nearby that we experienced. I don't know if it's always like that but it was a little inconvenient for us especially during parades and fireworks. Space Mountain is a lot of fun. I haven't been to MK since the latest refurb so I'll compare later but I don't think not having a soundtrack will make or break either version. I did find the que for SM really weak even compared to Mk's old SM que. Captain EO is dated not because of the content but the quality of the movie is lacking. At times (it might have to do with DL's equipment) it barely looked 3D. It was entertaining none the less. We peaked into Star Tours to see the AA's but didn't ride it. Buzz, again IMO, was not as good as MK. Your arms get really tired with the detachable gun and the shooting was really inaccurate...my wife beat me! Also, I found the Finding Nemo Submarines to be very uncomfortable with the small hard plastic seats. The ride was nice but I personally couldn't enjoy it as much since my backside kept falling asleep. For what it is, I prefer the Epcot version.

Last but not least, Main Street and the Castle. The Castle is smaller yes but it's classic and the original. The walk-thru is fantastic as well and I wish Cinderella's castle would get something like that though probably impossible. Main Street USA is my favorite part of any MK style park. I love the sights, sounds and smells of Main Street. You can definitely tell, in a good way, that this MS has been around since 1955. Everything in the shoppes just feels and seems more classic. There are all kind of little details that you can pick up if you look for them. Great moments with Mr Lincoln, the candy shoppe and ice cream parlor are easily my favorites on DL Main Street. Lots of history there and worth spending little extra time if you can.

I'll tell of my Disney California Adventure experience later. I'd love ot hear what you gusy have to say. Thanks for reading :wave:.
 

Disneyfanman

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A great Trip report! Thanks for posting. I share your opinions on just about everything.

Disneyland is, to me, the finest Theme Park in the country. WDW offers much more to do overall, but none of their parks is superior to the original.

There are a couple of things that you didn't mention that I hoped you got to see. The Columbia is breathtaking, but it only sails on busy days. They have a lower level museum that is amazing.

The other thing that astounds me is the pure excitement that takes over DL after dark, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays. The crowds are huge, especially in Frontierland and NOS, but its always exciting and usually well controlled and directed by the DL staff. Fantasmic is my absolutely favorite after dark experience, and far superior to WDW although seeing it is much more difficult due to the crowds and limited seating. The Tiki Room is pure nastalgia, and they took great care restoring the original pre-show and main show. Then there is the plaza where they have swing dancing every Saturday and sometimes on Fridays as well. Wrap in the fireworks, and DL is like a giant party after dark. The MK, with all of it's wonderful features, doesn't match it. I mean what could?

I am just quaking with excitement with all of the changes at DCA as well. Imagine if they can create a similar experience, particularly after dark?

So I am really happy you could look at DL on it's own merits. Come back soon and enjoy again.
 

Wilt Dasney

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So we jogged down Harbor until we get to the DL entrance. I was already excited a few block prior since you can see the ToT from far away. Once we walked into DL resort property, I was immediately captivated by the music in the esplandade/middle area between DCA and DL. The first thing I heard was the theme music for Soarin' which is epic in itself. Add the sight of DL railroad station and you have a true Disney "moment". All the time I was thinking "I can't believe what I'm seeing and hearing and I haven't even paid one cent". That made my night. More great Disney music continued to play as we walked thru the empty esplanade and thru DTD...great night and first taste of things to come.

I could have almost written this myself about my first night on DL property a year ago (minus the jogging). :lol:

Like you, I got in late the first day and just wandered over to DTD...and I had the exact same thoughts about the central plaza, with the music and the train station and just everything. I was absolutely blown away at how special that little area feels. I was in love with the place before I ever set foot in a park. Wish I could bottle that feeling. :cool:
 

Ziffell

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Excellent trip report! I always enjoy reading people's trip reports, but I like how you described how everything made you feel as opposed to just information dumping (which is what a lot of trip reports tend to do). I especially could relate to your description of your first night there. I'm the opposite of you in that I grew up on Disneyland. The first time I went to WDW, I still remember the night we got there and how we spent about an hour just driving around the property before even going to check into our hotel. :lol:
 

TP2000

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The other thing that astounds me is the pure excitement that takes over DL after dark, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays.

Truer words were never spoken.

Disneyland after dark, on weekends and nightly during summer, has a totally different vibe than any other Disney theme park I've ever experienced in America, Europe or Japan (I haven't been to Hong Kong Disneyland though). It's pure magic. No wonder Walt dedicated an entire Wonderful World of Color episode to the topic back in 1962; and even though the music and dances and clothes and hairdos and attractions have all changed many times over since '62, the vibe and basic concept remain the same. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLPILfpK3K8

"It seems like a new kind of magic takes over in Disneyland after dark" -Walt Disney, 1962 -- No kidding, Walt! :lol:

How on earth Disneyland has been able to bottle this and keep applying it liberally all over the park for 55 years, I have no idea. And yet the other Disneyland-style parks around the world just can't seem to tap into this magic. Is it the perfect SoCal summer weather? The SoCal locals that add to the vibe? The Cast Members who make it all happen? What is that nighttime magic that only Disneyland seems able to create? It's likely a mystery that only Walt could achieve, and maybe it's best we don't try to over-analyze it and just enjoy it? Regardless, it truly is a Disneyland exclusive phenomenon.... Disneyland After Dark. :cool:

disneyland_after_dark.jpg
 

TP2000

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Mr Toad is very weak though. Nothing but paper cut-outs...no AA's and no 3D characters or theming inside. A nice outer building is pretty much all it has going for it. I never rode the one at Mk so I don't know if it differs or not.

You might be surprised to learn Disneyland actually has/had the better Mr. Toad's Wild Ride after the Disneyland version was upgraded and rebuilt in 1983. The 1971 Magic Kingdom version was very.... um.... unique. If the Brady Bunch built a dark ride, this is what it probably would turn out like.

Magic Kingdom's Mr. Toad's Wild Ride
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvIDH9Kq_k
 

Wilt Dasney

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One thing DL's Mr. Toad has going for it is the dragon who can't quite work up a fiery breath to char you as your car enters Hell. I don't think WDW ever had that. :D

BTW, thanks for that Youtube link, TP. It has a very clear image of the infamous naked woman painting on the tavern wall in WDW's Toad. I've been reading about that on Toad fansites for ages, but never was able to find a picture. :lol:
 

Mickey_777

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I could have almost written this myself about my first night on DL property a year ago (minus the jogging). :lol:

Like you, I got in late the first day and just wandered over to DTD...and I had the exact same thoughts about the central plaza, with the music and the train station and just everything. I was absolutely blown away at how special that little area feels. I was in love with the place before I ever set foot in a park. Wish I could bottle that feeling. :cool:

It was a great feeling...I don't know if you were alone but it was deserted when we went so it was like we had the "magic" all to our selves.

A great Trip report! Thanks for posting. I share your opinions on just about everything.

Disneyland is, to me, the finest Theme Park in the country. WDW offers much more to do overall, but none of their parks is superior to the original.

There are a couple of things that you didn't mention that I hoped you got to see. The Columbia is breathtaking, but it only sails on busy days. They have a lower level museum that is amazing.

The other thing that astounds me is the pure excitement that takes over DL after dark, particularly on Fridays and Saturdays. The crowds are huge, especially in Frontierland and NOS, but its always exciting and usually well controlled and directed by the DL staff. Fantasmic is my absolutely favorite after dark experience, and far superior to WDW although seeing it is much more difficult due to the crowds and limited seating. The Tiki Room is pure nastalgia, and they took great care restoring the original pre-show and main show. Then there is the plaza where they have swing dancing every Saturday and sometimes on Fridays as well. Wrap in the fireworks, and DL is like a giant party after dark. The MK, with all of it's wonderful features, doesn't match it. I mean what could?

I am just quaking with excitement with all of the changes at DCA as well. Imagine if they can create a similar experience, particularly after dark?

So I am really happy you could look at DL on it's own merits. Come back soon and enjoy again.

There is definitely a pick up in attendance and energy once the sun goes down. Unfortunately as a first timers we didn't know and found ourselves doing a lot of extra walking just trying to find an open attraction. Since most DL'ers are locals, they don't sweat it and chill out while watching the fireworks but since we only had 2 days, we were mostly concerned with the rides. We gotta go back for a longer period of time even before DCA is completely redone which will be amazing as well.

Excellent trip report! I always enjoy reading people's trip reports, but I like how you described how everything made you feel as opposed to just information dumping (which is what a lot of trip reports tend to do). I especially could relate to your description of your first night there. I'm the opposite of you in that I grew up on Disneyland. The first time I went to WDW, I still remember the night we got there and how we spent about an hour just driving around the property before even going to check into our hotel. :lol:

Thank you :). BTW are you now more partial to WDW?
 

TP2000

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. Since most DL'ers are locals, they don't sweat it and chill out while watching the fireworks but since we only had 2 days, we were mostly concerned with the rides. We gotta go back for a longer period of time even before DCA is completely redone which will be amazing as well.

You just experienced first hand the tsunami of attractions (rides) that Disneyland has. Disneyland has more attractions crammed into that one park, from A Tickets to mega E Tickets, than both Magic Kingdom and DHS have combined.

When you add in the 25 DCA attractions, the total number of attractions at Disneyland Resort is very, very close to the total number of attractions contained in all four WDW theme parks combined. :eek:

In two years, when 5 additional attractions have been added to DCA (Little Mermaid, Red Car Trolley, Luigi's Flyin' Tires, Mater's Junkyard Jamboree, Radiator Springs Racers), then Anaheim will either just match or slightly pull ahead of the total WDW attraction count. (Depending on if they really do remove the Maliboomer this fall)

WDW has very wide walkways in all its parks, but Disneyland has nothing but rides, rides, and more rides. Rides stacked on top of each other, rides sharing the same river, rides hidden behind trees; rides, rides, and more rides. It's an amusement park after all, and rides are important. :cool:

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Ziffell

Member
Thank you :). BTW are you now more partial to WDW?

You know that's one of those things that I've gone back and forth on over the years. Not because I'm fickle, but because I think the level of quality and the guest service has occasionally fluctuated between the two over the years. Currently, I'm of the mindset that Disneyland has the edge. But for the majority of the time, WDW has tended to be my favorite. In some ways, I think WDW still has my heart a little more because I find myself WANTING it to be better.
 

Mickey_777

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Trip report part 2...

On our second day at DL, we headed to Disney California Adventure.

We kinda' knew what to expect since from research and reading others' posts but the park isn't as bad as some have made it out to be. I do feel, however, that the park layout is strange but that can be overlooked as long as there are great attractions and DCA has them.

I like the entrance ( C A L I F O R N I A sign) and It'll be a shame to see it go once the park is has it's changes done. That esplanade area may lose a lot once the DHS-style entrance is put in place. I noticed something about the area music though, is it me or do they play the same music in every section of the park? The food and wine festival was going on but we didn't get a chance to sample anything. We did have some hotdogs at Award Wieners that were pretty good though...really hit the spot. Anyway, let me get back on track.

Once we got into the park we headed straight back to paradise pier to get in line for TSMM since we figured it'd be the most popular attraction there. Our plan was to get a fastpass but to our surprise, TSMM doesn't offer them! Anybody know why this is? Well the ride is identical, at least to me, to the one at DHS. But I think I prefer Mr. Potatoe Head to be inside. Unfortunately we only could get on once since it broke down when we had only about 15 left to wait. Bummer. Later on I remembered I had a WDW TSMM fastpass in my wallet. Man I should have tried using it and messed with a castmember LOL. California Screamin' is fun but not a "real" roller coaster in my book. It's more like an entry level ride for those who may be scared to try a coaster with a loop. We rode it twice since they do offer fastpass. The ferris wheel is slow and makes all-too-often stops for loading and unloading. We were on for like 20 minutes just to go around once and that's not including the wait in line. Big waste of our day. There's gotta be a better way to run a ferris wheel.

Then we went to Hollywood Picture backlot. The facades and theming here are probably the best in the whole park and very similar to DHS which I liked. Muppett Vision was great due to the fact that it looked so sharp and the 3D effects really popped out. It was perhaps the sharpest and best 3D anything I've ever seen. Hopefully with the refurb at DHS it looks as good as it does at DCA. Oh how I wish PhilharMagic would look this good (refurb anyone?). The props and theming in the wait area seem to be a little less than DHS but I only noticed that once I saw photos to compare when I got back. The walk in to the theatre and outside are really nice overall. Awesome attraction. I also really liked the Monsters Inc. dark ride. It is very well done and I definitely wouldn't mind seeing it placed in DHS at the very least if we don't get the coaster that's rumored. My wife said it's just like being in the movie (I've only seen bits and piece to be honest). ToT didn't disappoint despite having a preset sequence. I thought it was just as fun but I hear "experts" say the theming isn't on par with DHS. I'll pay closer attention next time.

The only other attraction we saw was IT'S TOUGHT TO BE A BUG. We've only seen it once at DAK so we couldn't accurately compare if it's identical or not but it's a super fun attraction. The AA's are great. I did find the quality of the film to be blurry though but that's because we saw Muppet Vision first and like it said it was so sharp. A Bugs Land was nice though a bit small but I guess it's made for kids. It's got a honey I shrunk the kids vibe to it which makes sense since we're supposed to feel like tiny insects. Cool place.

Unfortunately we didn't get on Soarin' since we heard it's exactly like the EPCOT version. Honestly we just wanted to get back to Disneyland. We did find it super easy and pleasant to take pictures with the characters at DCA. We never had to wait behind more than 4 or 5 people. I do feel though that DCA is lacking that touch of "magic" that DL and all the WDW parks have. Even though I like the area music, I think that's where the problem is. "Yellow polka-dot bikini" just doesn't do it for me when at a Disney park. I guess we'll leave that to Tony Baxter (whom I saw at DL later that evening). BTW, I noticed that rides seemed to break down a lot at both DLR parks. The night before we asked about this at City hall on Main Street and they compensated us with 4 "any attraction" fastpasses to compensate. Besides TSMM on this day, Big thunder mountain broke down on us twice the day before including one time when we were already sitting in the car with the lap bar down. That day the Monorail and the Alice dark ride broke down on us too. This really made me worry 'cause I can't remember a ride breaking down on us at WDW. Maybe we've been luck and then unlucky.

Final Thoughts:

DLR is fantastic. Like most WDW vets, I wish I could take the best from DLR and place it in WDW and make the "perfect park" but I guess that's not the point. It's cool to have more Disney alternatives. So which do I prefer? My vote still goes to WDW just because there are things that I like soley based on personal preference. For example, IMO, with the exception of DL's fantasyland, I think MK has better and more consistent facades and theming throughout the park. DL is mix of old and new and I'm still not sure what my feelings are about that. On one hand it's classic and you gotta respect that. Almost like a "you better respect your elders" type of thing. On the other hand I personally feel newer is better sometimes. It's all about your cup of tea.

In the end and like I said before, it's cool to have more than one Disney choice. Once DCA is done with it's makeover, you'll have all the more reason to try and get out to these parks because they are really, really worth visiting.
 

Admiral01

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I'm a WDW annual pass holder, and multiple-trip-a-year-er, but I am really excited to head back to Disneyland for my second time (next week). I always enjoy reading about other experiences in the west coast resort. Thanks!
 

sponono88

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glad you enjoyed your trip- thanks for sharing with us!

I noticed something about the area music though, is it me or do they play the same music in every section of the park?

yeah, during the Food and Wine Festival they play the same Background Music loop in the entrance and Hollywood Pictures Backlot. normally each land has its own loop, but they change it for the festival.
 

TP2000

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BTW, thanks for that Youtube link, TP. It has a very clear image of the infamous naked woman painting on the tavern wall in WDW's Toad. I've been reading about that on Toad fansites for ages, but never was able to find a picture. :lol:

I know, isn't that great?!? I saw that on YouTube and I thought "Hey, back that up and pause that, did I see what I think I just saw???" Yup, that's what I saw. :lol:

Clearly this ride was Imagineered in an era long since past. In the 21st century when every tourist has an amazing HD camera bought for cheap at Best Buy, and the easy ability to broadcast to the entire Free World their vacation movies, little sight gags like that won't ever be happening again. :mad:
 

hpyhnt 1000

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little sight gags like that won't ever be happening again. :mad:

Too true. The marble sculpture in the Renaissance scene in SSE is the perfect example of that. :(

And that was representative of an actual piece of art, not just a mere sight gag. For 25 years it was fine and then all of sudden there was something wrong with it? It wasn't the sculpture that changed, thats for sure. :brick:
 

Ziffell

Member
You just experienced first hand the tsunami of attractions (rides) that Disneyland has. Disneyland has more attractions crammed into that one park, from A Tickets to mega E Tickets, than both Magic Kingdom and DHS have combined.

When you add in the 25 DCA attractions, the total number of attractions at Disneyland Resort is very, very close to the total number of attractions contained in all four WDW theme parks combined. :eek:

In two years, when 5 additional attractions have been added to DCA (Little Mermaid, Red Car Trolley, Luigi's Flyin' Tires, Mater's Junkyard Jamboree, Radiator Springs Racers), then Anaheim will either just match or slightly pull ahead of the total WDW attraction count. (Depending on if they really do remove the Maliboomer this fall)

WDW has very wide walkways in all its parks, but Disneyland has nothing but rides, rides, and more rides. Rides stacked on top of each other, rides sharing the same river, rides hidden behind trees; rides, rides, and more rides. It's an amusement park after all, and rides are important. :cool:

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Quantity doesn't equal quality. If it did, most Six Flags parks would have Disney beat.
 

TP2000

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Quantity doesn't equal quality. If it did, most Six Flags parks would have Disney beat.

Very true. And WDW has some unique top-quality "attraction" experiences you can't find anywhere else in the world, mostly in the Epcot Future World pavilions.

But when you tally up the rides, even just the E Ticket attractions, the tally is amazingly close between the two properties. Anaheim has two parks that are full of attractions and getting fuller every year, while Orlando has four parks that have nearly the same number of attractions spread more thinly across the board with most WDW parks seemingly on auto-pilot and with not a bulldozer in sight outside of Fantasyland. The Magic Kingdom vs. Disneyland comparison of attractions is the most noticeable.
 

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