kelknight84
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For anyone that wants a band and FP+ you can make a reservation then when your bands arrive 30 days out cancel the hotel. Then you're all set!
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FastPass+ open to all guests including offsite beginning next week at Disney's Animal Kingdom
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TDF
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Unfortunately I have to agree with this. The reason I say unfortunately is because I find it completely wrong that Disney is doing this. You guys go pretty much all the time and should have easy access to do everything with MM+ just like those staying. However, I think Disney believes they have you and because you can come all the time why let them access MM+. Hopefully, you guys will be next with some updating.
disney4life2008
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JerseyDad
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Sounds like their new crowd distribution plan is in full effect. Moving people from Fastpass and standby lines into the kiosk lines. Brilliant!
......and ...not to forget ....moving them into lines at Universal, Seaworld, and any other venue that does not bow to the almighty mouse .....and that includes those that lean toward staying home. I would bet there are a fair number of people that were, 'regulars' at WDW (not AP holders) ...that now see the added hassle and increased price as an incentive to just not "do" Disney.
disney4life2008
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LOL this is true. I have seen this suggestion posted on a few other boards.
ratherbeinwdw
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People are still not understanding that there is a difference between a FL ap and the regular ap that those of us who don't live in FL have. Ours are more expensive. We pay just as much to get there as non-ap owners. We pay the same for a room as you do--occasionally we get 5% more off. We pay for the same food you do. We do get a 10% discount at a limited number of places. So we deserve the same ability to use fastpass as everyone else. I did stay onsite last month, so I have a band to use for fastpass. These people who bought those expensive Premier passes, absolutely deserve to at least get what everyone else gets.
donsullivan
Premium Member
No, my last WDW resort stay was back in March and then I stayed at Grand Californian at DL in September (has no impact on this I understand).
Tom Morrow
Well-Known Member
DAK Current wait times:
Everest: 35
Dinosaur: 35
Kali River Rapids: 20
Primeval Whirl: 30
It's been like this roughly all day. Entirely manageable on one of the busiest days of the year!
Meanwhile...
Rock n Roller Coaster: 90
Tower of Terror: 80
Toy Story Mania: 145
Star Tours: 50
Soarin': 130
Test Track: 110
Maelstrom: 45
Big Thunder: 75
Peter Pan's Flight: 60
Space Mountain: 80
So in other words its exactly what I've been saying all along - reduce the number of Fastpasses given out (and get rid of GAC) and re-distribute the crowds and you will see a reduction in standby wait times! Crowds are also shifted to less popular attractions!
Everest: 35
Dinosaur: 35
Kali River Rapids: 20
Primeval Whirl: 30
It's been like this roughly all day. Entirely manageable on one of the busiest days of the year!
Meanwhile...
Rock n Roller Coaster: 90
Tower of Terror: 80
Toy Story Mania: 145
Star Tours: 50
Soarin': 130
Test Track: 110
Maelstrom: 45
Big Thunder: 75
Peter Pan's Flight: 60
Space Mountain: 80
So in other words its exactly what I've been saying all along - reduce the number of Fastpasses given out (and get rid of GAC) and re-distribute the crowds and you will see a reduction in standby wait times! Crowds are also shifted to less popular attractions!
Cesar R M
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but then baby Iger will call foul because his baby isnt abused or used at all.
networkpro
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- In the Parks
- Yes
{putting on nomex as the entitlement folks are circling}
Ceteras Parabas, but no one wants to adhere to that, their exception to the rule for their convenience trumps all logic. IMHO same level of admission deserves the same level of service. If a 700 dollar a year habit yields the ability to book experiences X number of days out while a daily only renders day of reservations possible, then that's OK as long as there are quotas which protect the ability of each admission category to experience them all. Notice that I speak in terms of admission category and not "needs based groupings" as those spiral out of control into equal and more than equal allocations of resources ala GAC.
JimboJones123
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I don't think it is really an issue of Disney intentionally being malicious.
I think it is more an issue of laziness. They are too lazy to add APs to MM+. We are already added to the databases, they just have to flip the switch. It seems like there are far too much headaches going on constantly at Guest Services to add APs lining up daily to finally get their magic bands. Even though more than half of us are more than okay using our AP cards to do all things Magicband.
Disney is also very afraid of reservation abuse. There are so many APs that could potentially eat up all TSM and Sorin' FPs before most hotel guests even get their bands in the mail. This will expose the faults of the entire system in a heartbeat and could single handedly keep APs from ever being able to make advance attraction FP+s more than 7 days in advance.
This thing is going to get MUCH worse before it gets better.
I think it is more an issue of laziness. They are too lazy to add APs to MM+. We are already added to the databases, they just have to flip the switch. It seems like there are far too much headaches going on constantly at Guest Services to add APs lining up daily to finally get their magic bands. Even though more than half of us are more than okay using our AP cards to do all things Magicband.
Disney is also very afraid of reservation abuse. There are so many APs that could potentially eat up all TSM and Sorin' FPs before most hotel guests even get their bands in the mail. This will expose the faults of the entire system in a heartbeat and could single handedly keep APs from ever being able to make advance attraction FP+s more than 7 days in advance.
This thing is going to get MUCH worse before it gets better.
JimboJones123
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AK is not really a fair test.
Switch it to DHS or Epcot where there are 2-3 long line attractions, and we will get a better picture.
There is rarely an AK ride that goes over 60 minutes.
Rob562
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From a friend's experience, it doesn't work.
Yes, you'll get a Band. It'll stay linked to your MDE profile even if you cancel the resort reservation, and it (presumably) will work for admission at the parks and same-day FP+ in AK, but it doesn't allow for access to the FP+ system to make reservations ahead of time.
Presumably it won't work for FP+ until they open the system to AP holders.
Of course all this is assuming my friend linked his AP properly.
-Rob
donsullivan
Premium Member
I've heard the same thing from multiple Passholders who had reservations, received bands and then cancelled the reservation. Even though the band still allows access to park, the users profile is still not eligible for advance FP+ reservation.
The ability to advance reserve FP+ for Passholders seems to require completion of the resort stay and then you are able to advance reserve FP+ going forward without an additional resort reservation/stay.
ParentsOf4
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Really, any theme park would be a fair test with an apples-to-apples comparison.
DAK's problem is that it doesn't have many secondary attractions to switch capacity over to. All of DAK's attractions can easily be completed in a day.
FP+ neither adds nor subtracts guests. It also does not make unpopular attractions popular. If It's a Bug's Life can be seen with a 5-minute wait, getting a FP+ for it is not going to suddenly make it popular. And getting a FP+ for Bug's Life doesn't stop me from wanting to ride both EE and KS, even if it means standing in the Standby line.
Recall that for popular attractions, 100% of the available FP+ selections are still being distributed. They now are simply being distributed to different people, with onsite guests getting preferential access.
The biggest impact to Standby lines should be a result the new DAS policy. Depending on which CM you talk with, as many as a quarter of those entering the old FP lines were doing so using the old GAC system.
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kelknight84
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We got it to work with a FL resident 4day so it should work with an AP. We did make FP+ selections before cancelling.
surfsupdon
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Yep, we cancelled our trip. Would have been there now actually, at Yacht Club. But cancelled because of the ineffective MM+ experience we had in november.
I have personally tried this, at least in October. It didn't work. As soon as I canceled the room I could no longer make changes to FP+ that were already selected, then a few days later all of my FP+ disappeared completely.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Same here cancelled Christmas trip because of bloody awful experience in August with MM- and My(bad)DisneyExperience application.
surfsupdon
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We would not have been able to get on enough rides to make the trip "worth it," without waiting in lines (which aren't worth it). Three FastPasses a day??! Ridic!